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Re: Player jailed after on-field assault

Postby Rotter » Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:34 pm

Boo25 wrote:A person can break into your house intending on robbing you for everything you got you catch him give him a hiding yet your put up for assult what a fu#@ked up world we live in :lol: :lol:
Not anymore but Shrek can give you the finer changes to that scenerio.
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Re: Player jailed after on-field assault

Postby Bubbula » Sat Jul 05, 2008 11:59 pm

Boo25 wrote:Sounds like the mug deserved every bit of what he got life is strange like that mate.. A person can break into your house intending on robbing you for everything you got you catch him give him a hiding yet your put up for assult what a fu#@ked up world we live in :lol: :lol:

i agree mate.. i think the law is hell bent on the 'innocent till proven guilty' shit.. In this day and age where people are being killed by a single punch I will punch ti kill cos at the end of the day its me or him and I have family to be here for.
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Re: Player jailed after on-field assault

Postby stan » Sun Jul 06, 2008 9:06 am

Bubbula wrote:
Boo25 wrote:Sounds like the mug deserved every bit of what he got life is strange like that mate.. A person can break into your house intending on robbing you for everything you got you catch him give him a hiding yet your put up for assult what a fu#@ked up world we live in :lol: :lol:

i agree mate.. i think the law is hell bent on the 'innocent till proven guilty' s***t.. In this day and age where people are being killed by a single punch I will punch ti kill cos at the end of the day its me or him and I have family to be here for.


I guess its not really topic related but thats a good point Bubbula. When you have a family in the house and someone has broken in to it, christ anything goes really. But thats not the way the law sees it.
Read my reply. It is directed at you because you have double standards
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Re: Player jailed after on-field assault

Postby Sponge Bob » Sun Jul 06, 2008 12:34 pm

Bubbula wrote:Heres a case for you all to be judge and jury on.. In year 10 as a 15 year old I was excluded from schoool for 16 weeks for assaulting another student.. Sounds bad now heres the story..

With seconds to go in the game a standover(who I will name SI) who just happened to be my team mate had threatened to hit another bloke if he didnt let him kick the ball out after a behind. I told the bloke now to give him the ball but he sh*t himself and gave him it. SI then decided to look cool and load up with a torp which went horribly wrong resulting in an opposition player taking a mark 30 out having a shot to win them the game. In the heat of the moment I blasted the bloke that gave him the ball and screamed SI was a sh*t kick.. SI took exception and ran up behind me(who at this stage was standing on the mark) and booted with all he had in the lower leg.. I fell flat on my face.. He then started yelling and screaming that he was going smash my head in. I at first thought of running cos I was shitting myself but I knew he'd catch me anyway so I stood my ground.. When he come forward to hit me I ducked, jumped up and gave him a jab in the mouth which pushed his braces and teeth through his bottom lip. It was like the world stood still. Everybody was telling me to run but I was staying put. SI(stunned at this stage) felt his lip and seen the blood then shouted 'your f*cked'. He came forward once more. I again ducked his haymaker gave him another left jab and right hooked him into the following year. With my leg bleeding and busted face(from my head hitting the ground) I was promptly told to go to the focus room which is where the bad kids go..

The conclusion. SI(16) suffered a broken jaw, 4 smashed teeth and badly mangled braces.. I was excluded from school for 16 weeks for what was deemed excessive force and was charged as an adult for causing actual bodily harm.

Lets take in the facts.. I never instigated any physical confrontation.. I simply stood my ground. He was 6'4 and about 90 kilo. I was 172cm and 68 kilos. I had to jump to hit him.. His report of the incident was totally different to 3 other witness's..

I went to court for over a year and was eventually placed on a good behaviour bond for 18 months now have this on my record for the rest of my life.

So can the jury tell me if this was self defence or brutality??


About what to expect when you do the wrong thing. That's why they have "laws" be they right or wrong in your eyes. Your father should have kicked your arse earlier in life and maybe you woudn't have done it
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Re: Player jailed after on-field assault

Postby The Big Shrek » Sun Jul 06, 2008 2:42 pm

Rotter wrote:
Boo25 wrote:A person can break into your house intending on robbing you for everything you got you catch him give him a hiding yet your put up for assult what a fu#@ked up world we live in :lol: :lol:
Not anymore but Shrek can give you the finer changes to that scenerio.


Can't be bothered explaining it but in home invasions you basically have free reign because they have taken away the reasonable proportionality requirement for self defence.

Check out sections 15-15C of the Criminal Law Consolidation Act(SA) at austlii.edu.au if you are interested.
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Re: Player jailed after on-field assault

Postby Bubbula » Sun Jul 06, 2008 3:29 pm

Captain Cordial wrote:
Bubbula wrote:Heres a case for you all to be judge and jury on.. In year 10 as a 15 year old I was excluded from schoool for 16 weeks for assaulting another student.. Sounds bad now heres the story..

With seconds to go in the game a standover(who I will name SI) who just happened to be my team mate had threatened to hit another bloke if he didnt let him kick the ball out after a behind. I told the bloke now to give him the ball but he sh*t himself and gave him it. SI then decided to look cool and load up with a torp which went horribly wrong resulting in an opposition player taking a mark 30 out having a shot to win them the game. In the heat of the moment I blasted the bloke that gave him the ball and screamed SI was a sh*t kick.. SI took exception and ran up behind me(who at this stage was standing on the mark) and booted with all he had in the lower leg.. I fell flat on my face.. He then started yelling and screaming that he was going smash my head in. I at first thought of running cos I was shitting myself but I knew he'd catch me anyway so I stood my ground.. When he come forward to hit me I ducked, jumped up and gave him a jab in the mouth which pushed his braces and teeth through his bottom lip. It was like the world stood still. Everybody was telling me to run but I was staying put. SI(stunned at this stage) felt his lip and seen the blood then shouted 'your f*cked'. He came forward once more. I again ducked his haymaker gave him another left jab and right hooked him into the following year. With my leg bleeding and busted face(from my head hitting the ground) I was promptly told to go to the focus room which is where the bad kids go..

The conclusion. SI(16) suffered a broken jaw, 4 smashed teeth and badly mangled braces.. I was excluded from school for 16 weeks for what was deemed excessive force and was charged as an adult for causing actual bodily harm.

Lets take in the facts.. I never instigated any physical confrontation.. I simply stood my ground. He was 6'4 and about 90 kilo. I was 172cm and 68 kilos. I had to jump to hit him.. His report of the incident was totally different to 3 other witness's..

I went to court for over a year and was eventually placed on a good behaviour bond for 18 months now have this on my record for the rest of my life.

So can the jury tell me if this was self defence or brutality??


About what to expect when you do the wrong thing. That's why they have "laws" be they right or wrong in your eyes. Your father should have kicked your arse earlier in life and maybe you woudn't have done it

funny you say that, my father was an alcoholic former boxer who beat me and my brothers and my mother on a regular basis so maybe you should thiink before you open your mouth CC. With the way your so outspoken it sounds like you needed to be put in your place sometime during your childhood..
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Re: Player jailed after on-field assault

Postby Bubbula » Sun Jul 06, 2008 3:30 pm

Captain Cordial wrote:
Bubbula wrote:Heres a case for you all to be judge and jury on.. In year 10 as a 15 year old I was excluded from schoool for 16 weeks for assaulting another student.. Sounds bad now heres the story..

With seconds to go in the game a standover(who I will name SI) who just happened to be my team mate had threatened to hit another bloke if he didnt let him kick the ball out after a behind. I told the bloke now to give him the ball but he sh*t himself and gave him it. SI then decided to look cool and load up with a torp which went horribly wrong resulting in an opposition player taking a mark 30 out having a shot to win them the game. In the heat of the moment I blasted the bloke that gave him the ball and screamed SI was a sh*t kick.. SI took exception and ran up behind me(who at this stage was standing on the mark) and booted with all he had in the lower leg.. I fell flat on my face.. He then started yelling and screaming that he was going smash my head in. I at first thought of running cos I was shitting myself but I knew he'd catch me anyway so I stood my ground.. When he come forward to hit me I ducked, jumped up and gave him a jab in the mouth which pushed his braces and teeth through his bottom lip. It was like the world stood still. Everybody was telling me to run but I was staying put. SI(stunned at this stage) felt his lip and seen the blood then shouted 'your f*cked'. He came forward once more. I again ducked his haymaker gave him another left jab and right hooked him into the following year. With my leg bleeding and busted face(from my head hitting the ground) I was promptly told to go to the focus room which is where the bad kids go..

The conclusion. SI(16) suffered a broken jaw, 4 smashed teeth and badly mangled braces.. I was excluded from school for 16 weeks for what was deemed excessive force and was charged as an adult for causing actual bodily harm.

Lets take in the facts.. I never instigated any physical confrontation.. I simply stood my ground. He was 6'4 and about 90 kilo. I was 172cm and 68 kilos. I had to jump to hit him.. His report of the incident was totally different to 3 other witness's..

I went to court for over a year and was eventually placed on a good behaviour bond for 18 months now have this on my record for the rest of my life.

So can the jury tell me if this was self defence or brutality??


About what to expect when you do the wrong thing. That's why they have "laws" be they right or wrong in your eyes. Your father should have kicked your arse earlier in life and maybe you woudn't have done it

so when one of sons gets belted and is in fear for his safety should he not protect himself?? you should be a politician..
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Re: Player jailed after on-field assault

Postby LaughingKookaburra » Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:48 pm

Panther32 wrote:
Hills wrote:I agree that thuggish behaviour shouldnt be on the footy field.
Barry hall did it... He got 6 weeks (i think)
And we all look up to AFL footballers, i think the problem here is consistency (previous year/decades). What happens on the field stays on the field and if that means waiting another 7 or so weeks to get the person back (within the rules of the game) than so be it. 20 years ago this type of thing would of never been taken to the courts!

Although hitting someone from behind is a cowardly act!

But he should be able to get away with it because he's on a football field???
Realistically I think it comes down to the act itself and the damage done. If someone king hits a bloke and the guy is permanantly scarred or injured as in this case, then it should be in the hands of the police. If you ever have kids(so help me god!) Hills and you're 16 year old son is king hit by a 30 year old behind play and has his jaw broken and eye socket smashed requiring around $2k worth of surgery, is this all "kosher" with you because it happened on a footy field???

The funny thing is that if an off duty police officer was at the game he can charge him with assault. He can still be charged, all it takes is one officer to act. IMO the d!ckhead deserves it, no need to king hit blokes on a footy field. To reply to youre statement Hills I beleive there is a line to draw between physical contact that occurs in footy and thuggish behavior.
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Re: Player jailed after on-field assault

Postby Bubbula » Sun Jul 06, 2008 6:02 pm

LaughingKookaburra wrote:
Panther32 wrote:
Hills wrote:I agree that thuggish behaviour shouldnt be on the footy field.
Barry hall did it... He got 6 weeks (i think)
And we all look up to AFL footballers, i think the problem here is consistency (previous year/decades). What happens on the field stays on the field and if that means waiting another 7 or so weeks to get the person back (within the rules of the game) than so be it. 20 years ago this type of thing would of never been taken to the courts!

Although hitting someone from behind is a cowardly act!

But he should be able to get away with it because he's on a football field???
Realistically I think it comes down to the act itself and the damage done. If someone king hits a bloke and the guy is permanantly scarred or injured as in this case, then it should be in the hands of the police. If you ever have kids(so help me god!) Hills and you're 16 year old son is king hit by a 30 year old behind play and has his jaw broken and eye socket smashed requiring around $2k worth of surgery, is this all "kosher" with you because it happened on a footy field???

The funny thing is that if an off duty police officer was at the game he can charge him with assault. He can still be charged, all it takes is one officer to act. IMO the d!ckhead deserves it, no need to king hit blokes on a footy field. To reply to youre statement Hills I beleive there is a line to draw between physical contact that occurs in footy and thuggish behavior.

seriously Kooka.. That off duty officer thing is the biggest load of garbage I have ever heard.. Alls he can do as an off-duty police officer is report it. Then when on duty, follow up the matter. Note: A police officer is only permitted to do his job when on duty.
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Re: Player jailed after on-field assault

Postby LaughingKookaburra » Sun Jul 06, 2008 6:06 pm

Only repeating what was said by a police officer on 5aa. Probably should have mentioned that in my post :roll:
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Re: Player jailed after on-field assault

Postby Bubbula » Sun Jul 06, 2008 6:12 pm

LaughingKookaburra wrote:Only repeating what was said by a police officer on 5aa. Probably should have mentioned that in my post :roll:

Well I'm willing to argue that it wasnt really a police officer then.
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Re: Player jailed after on-field assault

Postby Sponge Bob » Sun Jul 06, 2008 6:13 pm

Bubbula wrote:
Captain Cordial wrote:
Bubbula wrote:Heres a case for you all to be judge and jury on.. In year 10 as a 15 year old I was excluded from schoool for 16 weeks for assaulting another student.. Sounds bad now heres the story..

With seconds to go in the game a standover(who I will name SI) who just happened to be my team mate had threatened to hit another bloke if he didnt let him kick the ball out after a behind. I told the bloke now to give him the ball but he sh*t himself and gave him it. SI then decided to look cool and load up with a torp which went horribly wrong resulting in an opposition player taking a mark 30 out having a shot to win them the game. In the heat of the moment I blasted the bloke that gave him the ball and screamed SI was a sh*t kick.. SI took exception and ran up behind me(who at this stage was standing on the mark) and booted with all he had in the lower leg.. I fell flat on my face.. He then started yelling and screaming that he was going smash my head in. I at first thought of running cos I was shitting myself but I knew he'd catch me anyway so I stood my ground.. When he come forward to hit me I ducked, jumped up and gave him a jab in the mouth which pushed his braces and teeth through his bottom lip. It was like the world stood still. Everybody was telling me to run but I was staying put. SI(stunned at this stage) felt his lip and seen the blood then shouted 'your f*cked'. He came forward once more. I again ducked his haymaker gave him another left jab and right hooked him into the following year. With my leg bleeding and busted face(from my head hitting the ground) I was promptly told to go to the focus room which is where the bad kids go..

The conclusion. SI(16) suffered a broken jaw, 4 smashed teeth and badly mangled braces.. I was excluded from school for 16 weeks for what was deemed excessive force and was charged as an adult for causing actual bodily harm.

Lets take in the facts.. I never instigated any physical confrontation.. I simply stood my ground. He was 6'4 and about 90 kilo. I was 172cm and 68 kilos. I had to jump to hit him.. His report of the incident was totally different to 3 other witness's..

I went to court for over a year and was eventually placed on a good behaviour bond for 18 months now have this on my record for the rest of my life.

So can the jury tell me if this was self defence or brutality??


About what to expect when you do the wrong thing. That's why they have "laws" be they right or wrong in your eyes. Your father should have kicked your arse earlier in life and maybe you woudn't have done it

funny you say that, my father was an alcoholic former boxer who beat me and my brothers and my mother on a regular basis so maybe you should thiink before you open your mouth CC. With the way your so outspoken it sounds like you needed to be put in your place sometime during your childhood..


That may explain your outlook on life. I have sympathy for anyone who has had that in their childhood but it doesn't give licence to carry grudges against all other people. It takes a bigger person to acknowledge and overcome problems than it does to perpetuate them. Not everyone in the world is like your father.
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Re: Player jailed after on-field assault

Postby Bubbula » Sun Jul 06, 2008 6:23 pm

Captain Cordial wrote:
Bubbula wrote:
Captain Cordial wrote:
Bubbula wrote:Heres a case for you all to be judge and jury on.. In year 10 as a 15 year old I was excluded from schoool for 16 weeks for assaulting another student.. Sounds bad now heres the story..

With seconds to go in the game a standover(who I will name SI) who just happened to be my team mate had threatened to hit another bloke if he didnt let him kick the ball out after a behind. I told the bloke now to give him the ball but he sh*t himself and gave him it. SI then decided to look cool and load up with a torp which went horribly wrong resulting in an opposition player taking a mark 30 out having a shot to win them the game. In the heat of the moment I blasted the bloke that gave him the ball and screamed SI was a sh*t kick.. SI took exception and ran up behind me(who at this stage was standing on the mark) and booted with all he had in the lower leg.. I fell flat on my face.. He then started yelling and screaming that he was going smash my head in. I at first thought of running cos I was shitting myself but I knew he'd catch me anyway so I stood my ground.. When he come forward to hit me I ducked, jumped up and gave him a jab in the mouth which pushed his braces and teeth through his bottom lip. It was like the world stood still. Everybody was telling me to run but I was staying put. SI(stunned at this stage) felt his lip and seen the blood then shouted 'your f*cked'. He came forward once more. I again ducked his haymaker gave him another left jab and right hooked him into the following year. With my leg bleeding and busted face(from my head hitting the ground) I was promptly told to go to the focus room which is where the bad kids go..

The conclusion. SI(16) suffered a broken jaw, 4 smashed teeth and badly mangled braces.. I was excluded from school for 16 weeks for what was deemed excessive force and was charged as an adult for causing actual bodily harm.

Lets take in the facts.. I never instigated any physical confrontation.. I simply stood my ground. He was 6'4 and about 90 kilo. I was 172cm and 68 kilos. I had to jump to hit him.. His report of the incident was totally different to 3 other witness's..

I went to court for over a year and was eventually placed on a good behaviour bond for 18 months now have this on my record for the rest of my life.

So can the jury tell me if this was self defence or brutality??


About what to expect when you do the wrong thing. That's why they have "laws" be they right or wrong in your eyes. Your father should have kicked your arse earlier in life and maybe you woudn't have done it

funny you say that, my father was an alcoholic former boxer who beat me and my brothers and my mother on a regular basis so maybe you should thiink before you open your mouth CC. With the way your so outspoken it sounds like you needed to be put in your place sometime during your childhood..


That may explain your outlook on life. I have sympathy for anyone who has had that in their childhood but it doesn't give licence to carry grudges against all other people. It takes a bigger person to acknowledge and overcome problems than it does to perpetuate them. Not everyone in the world is like your father.

Thats fine you can have your opinion. i acknowledge that you can. I dont hold grudges. I fight for what I believe is right but I do think you overstepped the mark in saying my father should have kicked my arse earlier in life.. And what do you mean by my outlook on life. I was bought up mentally and physically hard. Whats so bad about that?? How would you know what a man has to do to overcome an abusive childhood?
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Re: Player jailed after on-field assault

Postby Sponge Bob » Sun Jul 06, 2008 6:42 pm

Bubula, you have no idea what sort of a childhood I had. In fact my Father died before I became a teenager, I was brought up by my mother, I also have a brother who is 8 years younger than me so if you think we did not do it tough then you'd best rethink it again.
This did not lead either my brother or myself into any trouble because my Mother gave us good guidance as a parent, the end result being that we are both considered to be reasonable citizens. Of course, there will always be someone to disagree and that's fine, an opinion is never wrong. I have children of my own, they too have had a good upbringing and I am proud of their attitude towards other people.

Just for the record too, I am not who you think I am!
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Re: Player jailed after on-field assault

Postby Bubbula » Sun Jul 06, 2008 6:57 pm

Captain Cordial wrote:Bubula, you have no idea what sort of a childhood I had. In fact my Father died before I became a teenager, I was brought up by my mother, I also have a brother who is 8 years younger than me so if you think we did not do it tough then you'd best rethink it again.
This did not lead either my brother or myself into any trouble because my Mother gave us good guidance as a parent, the end result being that we are both considered to be reasonable citizens. Of course, there will always be someone to disagree and that's fine, an opinion is never wrong. I have children of my own, they too have had a good upbringing and I am proud of their attitude towards other people.

Just for the record too, I am not who you think I am!

I never wanted to bring anyones upbringing into this. Yours wasnt great and I shouldnt imagine it would have been fullfilled without a father figure. I never really had any guidence. My mum was a pot smoking alcoholic. It just bemused me how you come straight out and talk of my father in the way you did without infact knowing me. I think that was low. I now have a daughter of my own and I will strive to be a better father then my own. This is my goal in life.
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Re: Player jailed after on-field assault

Postby old moz » Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:45 pm

i believe people are talking about an assault on the football field on this forum and as much as i admire certain 'posters' ability to become good citizens after difficult childhood's i think we should stick to the subject
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Re: Player jailed after on-field assault

Postby twogood4u » Sun Jul 06, 2008 8:42 pm

sorry boy's but i don't understand your problem! the court system these days you could get away with practically any criminal charge. JUST BLAME YOUR ABUSED CHILDHOOD. Here is one for the big shrek. IF the charged player chased the other player to retaliate dose this not show INTENT ?
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Re: Player jailed after on-field assault

Postby Bubbula » Sun Jul 06, 2008 8:45 pm

old moz wrote:i believe people are talking about an assault on the football field on this forum and as much as i admire certain 'posters' ability to become good citizens after difficult childhood's i think we should stick to the subject

Have you never been in a conversation that has branched off and mate. Who are you to tell us what do? And this convo started in relation to the topic so go use your super awesomeness elsewhere
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Re: Player jailed after on-field assault

Postby wattle » Sun Jul 06, 2008 8:49 pm

Maybe im still old school but i still think what happends on the field stays on the field
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Re: Player jailed after on-field assault

Postby Bubbula » Sun Jul 06, 2008 8:52 pm

wattle wrote:Maybe im still old school but i still think what happends on the field stays on the field

to an extent wattsy but when we're talking time off work and loss income, facial scaring its a different senario.. When its just a biff, couple of split heads, thats fine..
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