SAAFL Division 3 & D3R (2012)

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Who will make the Grand Final?

Athelstone
14
9%
CBCOC
6
4%
Kilburn
36
22%
Mitcham
9
6%
Payneham Norwood Union
26
16%
Pembroke OS
2
1%
Pooraka
7
4%
Salisbury
10
6%
Seaton Ramblers
7
4%
SMOSH West Lakes
45
28%
 
Total votes : 162

Re: SAAFL Division 3 & D3R (2012)

Postby The Big Shrek » Wed May 09, 2012 7:51 pm

beef wrote:
turk186 wrote:Is there any more news re the allegation surrounding Kilburn and the abuse of the APPS ...they still have all their points on the SAAFL website ..... was it just BS or is it an X-File ?? :?

On front page of "footy budget" say Kilburn 0-4, 0 pts, fined $3000. Of course playing salisbury this week. Would say they will be a little upset. Should be interesting game, GF replay from Div 4 last year.


Don't think it has been finalised yet.
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Re: SAAFL Division 3 & D3R (2012)

Postby The Big Shrek » Wed May 09, 2012 8:26 pm

Is the budget up? Can't find it.
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Re: SAAFL Division 3 & D3R (2012)

Postby hawkseye » Thu May 10, 2012 12:40 pm

Footy Chick wrote:
beef wrote:
turk186 wrote:Is there any more news re the allegation surrounding Kilburn and the abuse of the APPS ...they still have all their points on the SAAFL website ..... was it just BS or is it an X-File ?? :?

On front page of "footy budget" say Kilburn 0-4, 0 pts, fined $3000. Of course playing salisbury this week. Would say they will be a little upset. Should be interesting game, GF replay from Div 4 last year.


They made a bit of an "oopsie" then, didn't they? :lol:


That oopsie is 5 points over.
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Re: SAAFL Division 3 & D3R (2012)

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu May 10, 2012 12:49 pm

demonseye wrote:
That oopsie is 5 points over.


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Re: SAAFL Division 3 & D3R (2012)

Postby no_remorse28 » Thu May 10, 2012 1:18 pm

Reading the Budget from talking amateurs there is nothing on Kilburn and they still have there wins on the ladder
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Re: SAAFL Division 3 & D3R (2012)

Postby valleys07 » Thu May 10, 2012 1:24 pm

The Big Shrek wrote:Is the budget up? Can't find it.


Try this link shrek:

http://www.talkingamateurs.com.au/Budge ... und_05.pdf
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Re: SAAFL Division 3 & D3R (2012)

Postby no_remorse28 » Thu May 10, 2012 1:29 pm

just heard the club is obviously challenging it, heard the player to put them over may have been one who was there for all his junior football. Im not up to date on the ruling of it but doesnt that mean he doesnt go against points
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Re: SAAFL Division 3 & D3R (2012)

Postby turk186 » Thu May 10, 2012 3:15 pm

no_remorse28 wrote:just heard the club is obviously challenging it, heard the player to put them over may have been one who was there for all his junior football. Im not up to date on the ruling of it but doesnt that mean he doesnt go against points


If this is anywhere near fact I wonder how the league will ask them to justify it, I have no idea how good the record keeping is when it comes to junior footy.... does it depend on club records ( which could be in various shades of grey) or association records (like NEMJFA).
Im no expert on the APPS but I was aware that juniors came at 0 points and find it difficult to believe that someone at Kilburn who was responsible for entering player information would not have been aware of player APPS and the application of them..... sounds a little convenient IMO if this turns out to be the case :shock:
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Re: SAAFL Division 3 & D3R (2012)

Postby Yardy Lard » Thu May 10, 2012 3:23 pm

turk186 wrote:
no_remorse28 wrote:just heard the club is obviously challenging it, heard the player to put them over may have been one who was there for all his junior football. Im not up to date on the ruling of it but doesnt that mean he doesnt go against points


If this is anywhere near fact I wonder how the league will ask them to justify it, I have no idea how good the record keeping is when it comes to junior footy.... does it depend on club records ( which could be in various shades of grey) or association records (like NEMJFA).
Im no expert on the APPS but I was aware that juniors came at 0 points and find it difficult to believe that someone at Kilburn who was responsible for entering player information would not have been aware of player APPS and the application of them..... sounds a little convenient IMO if this turns out to be the case :shock:



Could be a more than interesting to see what happens. Have heard 20 different version of everts and some answers add up and some don't. Some are less than flattering from both parties. Will be interesting to see what actually happens. Someone or a number of people are going to have egg on their face though - from which ever party has got it wrong so far in proceedings. Let us wait and see.
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Re: SAAFL Division 3 & D3R (2012)

Postby Cash 123 » Thu May 10, 2012 4:09 pm

no_remorse28 wrote:Reading the Budget from talking amateurs there is nothing on Kilburn and they still have there wins on the ladder


The first version of the Budget which was online Wednesday Afternoon had an article on the front page covering the Kilburn Topic. Since then, that version was taken down and a new version without that article is now online. Yardy Lard the Media Manager may have taken action.
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Re: SAAFL Division 3 & D3R (2012)

Postby no_remorse28 » Thu May 10, 2012 4:12 pm

Craig Allen is who I heard, He played in the u/16's flag in early 2000 in the side with Chad Parks, Darren Francis and so on, and when I was a junior there was always in the side above me most of the time I was there and can remember, again its just what I heard, im sure there is other versions
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Re: SAAFL Division 3 & D3R (2012)

Postby Yardy Lard » Thu May 10, 2012 4:15 pm

Cash 123 wrote:
no_remorse28 wrote:Reading the Budget from talking amateurs there is nothing on Kilburn and they still have there wins on the ladder


The first version of the Budget which was online Wednesday Afternoon had an article on the front page covering the Kilburn Topic. Since then, that version was taken down and a new version without that article is now online. Yardy Lard the Media Manager may have taken action.



Giving Yardy a bit too much credit there. Yardy has no idea what you are on about...........................
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Re: SAAFL Division 3 & D3R (2012)

Postby Footy Chick » Thu May 10, 2012 4:17 pm

Rubbish

You said that you were 100% on the story and the outcome.

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Re: SAAFL Division 3 & D3R (2012)

Postby FOURTH ESTATE » Thu May 10, 2012 9:21 pm

Needs to have played 25 games as a junior to qualify as 0 pts
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Re: SAAFL Division 3 & D3R (2012)

Postby TEX07 » Fri May 11, 2012 12:36 am

FOURTH ESTATE wrote:Needs to have played 25 games as a junior to qualify as 0 pts


If so he would have done that no problems, his family has been around Kilburn for ever.
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SAAFL Division 3 & D3R (2012)

Postby test » Fri May 11, 2012 7:44 am

TEX07 wrote:
FOURTH ESTATE wrote:Needs to have played 25 games as a junior to qualify as 0 pts


If so he would have done that no problems, his family has been around Kilburn for ever.


I would of thought he'd played the required games in the seniors anyway, he must of played 3 or 4 years of senior footy previously.

Do the 25 games include juniors and seniors, or is it one or the other??
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Re: SAAFL Division 3 & D3R (2012)

Postby Boosh » Fri May 11, 2012 7:48 am

turk186 wrote:
no_remorse28 wrote:just heard the club is obviously challenging it, heard the player to put them over may have been one who was there for all his junior football. Im not up to date on the ruling of it but doesnt that mean he doesnt go against points


If this is anywhere near fact I wonder how the league will ask them to justify it, I have no idea how good the record keeping is when it comes to junior footy.... does it depend on club records ( which could be in various shades of grey) or association records (like NEMJFA).
Im no expert on the APPS but I was aware that juniors came at 0 points and find it difficult to believe that someone at Kilburn who was responsible for entering player information would not have been aware of player APPS and the application of them..... sounds a little convenient IMO if this turns out to be the case :shock:


We submitted all our recruited players details to Kylie at SAAFL and she was able to tell us exactly how many games they had played and who for. If it is outside of SAAFL she requests info from the other league. We had two players that had played 23 and 24 junior games for us and are subsequently worth points, which is just the way it goes.
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Re: SAAFL Division 3 & D3R (2012)

Postby The Big Shrek » Fri May 11, 2012 9:10 am

test wrote:
TEX07 wrote:
FOURTH ESTATE wrote:Needs to have played 25 games as a junior to qualify as 0 pts


If so he would have done that no problems, his family has been around Kilburn for ever.


I would of thought he'd played the required games in the seniors anyway, he must of played 3 or 4 years of senior footy previously.

Do the 25 games include juniors and seniors, or is it one or the other??

Bullfrog is zero, that has never been in dispute.
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SAAFL Division 3 & D3R (2012)

Postby test » Fri May 11, 2012 11:05 am

The Big Shrek wrote:
test wrote:
TEX07 wrote:
FOURTH ESTATE wrote:Needs to have played 25 games as a junior to qualify as 0 pts


If so he would have done that no problems, his family has been around Kilburn for ever.


I would of thought he'd played the required games in the seniors anyway, he must of played 3 or 4 years of senior footy previously.

Do the 25 games include juniors and seniors, or is it one or the other??

Bullfrog is zero, that has never been in dispute.


His name was bought up a few posts back and as I said I assumed he would be a zero pointer.
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Re: SAAFL Division 3 & D3R (2012)

Postby FOURTH ESTATE » Fri May 11, 2012 12:35 pm

Boosh wrote:
turk186 wrote:
no_remorse28 wrote:just heard the club is obviously challenging it, heard the player to put them over may have been one who was there for all his junior football. Im not up to date on the ruling of it but doesnt that mean he doesnt go against points


If this is anywhere near fact I wonder how the league will ask them to justify it, I have no idea how good the record keeping is when it comes to junior footy.... does it depend on club records ( which could be in various shades of grey) or association records (like NEMJFA).
Im no expert on the APPS but I was aware that juniors came at 0 points and find it difficult to believe that someone at Kilburn who was responsible for entering player information would not have been aware of player APPS and the application of them..... sounds a little convenient IMO if this turns out to be the case :shock:


We submitted all our recruited players details to Kylie at SAAFL and she was able to tell us exactly how many games they had played and who for. If it is outside of SAAFL she requests info from the other league. We had two players that had played 23 and 24 junior games for us and are subsequently worth points, which is just the way it goes.



Depends on the age of when they played and the APPS defining what is a junior from memory
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