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Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 6 - 2018

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:35 pm
by morell
The Bedge wrote:
morell wrote:Adelaide Lutheran exploiting some curious recruitment techniques, messaging a bunch of MPFC players out of the blue on Facebook.

What's so curious about that?
You'd message someone you've never met, has no connection to the club whatsoever, randomly in an attempt to recruit them?

What's the likely success rate of that? Just makes you silly IMO.

Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 6 - 2018

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:44 pm
by The Bedge
morell wrote:
The Bedge wrote:
morell wrote:Adelaide Lutheran exploiting some curious recruitment techniques, messaging a bunch of MPFC players out of the blue on Facebook.

What's so curious about that?
You'd message someone you've never met, has no connection to the club whatsoever, randomly in an attempt to recruit them?

What's the likely success rate of that? Just makes you silly IMO.

Absolutely I would and I have - better than sitting on my hands waiting for players to come flocking to my club off their own back. Granted I generally have a connection with most people I contact, but if I come across players that I believe would be a valuable asset, i'll have no hesitation making contact with them.

Success rate? Slightly better than waiting for my own phone to ring from interested players.
Makes me silly? Meh, water off a ducks back, if i snag a couple of quality players out of it it's a win, if not, no harm done.. worst case it's a nice little ego stroke for the player getting contacted unknowingly, and the connection is made - wont be such a shock the following year..

Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 6 - 2018

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:44 pm
by Lightning McQueen
morell wrote:
The Bedge wrote:
morell wrote:Adelaide Lutheran exploiting some curious recruitment techniques, messaging a bunch of MPFC players out of the blue on Facebook.

What's so curious about that?
You'd message someone you've never met, has no connection to the club whatsoever, randomly in an attempt to recruit them?

What's the likely success rate of that? Just makes you silly IMO.

The Barney Stinson.

Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 6 - 2018

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:15 pm
by morell
The Bedge wrote:
morell wrote:
The Bedge wrote:
morell wrote:Adelaide Lutheran exploiting some curious recruitment techniques, messaging a bunch of MPFC players out of the blue on Facebook.

What's so curious about that?
You'd message someone you've never met, has no connection to the club whatsoever, randomly in an attempt to recruit them?

What's the likely success rate of that? Just makes you silly IMO.

Absolutely I would and I have - better than sitting on my hands waiting for players to come flocking to my club off their own back. Granted I generally have a connection with most people I contact, but if I come across players that I believe would be a valuable asset, i'll have no hesitation making contact with them.

Success rate? Slightly better than waiting for my own phone to ring from interested players.
Makes me silly? Meh, water off a ducks back, if i snag a couple of quality players out of it it's a win, if not, no harm done.. worst case it's a nice little ego stroke for the player getting contacted unknowingly, and the connection is made - wont be such a shock the following year..
Such is modern amateur footy, I suppose.

Just another reason why I'm nearly done with it.

Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 6 - 2018

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:31 pm
by The Bedge
morell wrote:Such is modern amateur footy, I suppose.

Just another reason why I'm nearly done with it.

Well what are Mitchell Parks methods to recruit/retain? Do you rely solely on mates bringing mates or juniors coming through? What do you think coaches do when they come onboard?

The days are gone where people in the clubs catchment area exclusively play for that club, or generations of families stay at the same club.

Maybe your views and methodology are outdated and part of the reason MPFC is currently sitting in D7 with 8 blokes on the track each night.

Out of curiosity, what are your views on say representative sides? What about cricket or the likes if you're assembling a squad, particularly under age side (eg U21), plenty of guys you may not know, but if you're a coach it's your job to make a connection and try to find the best players you can - do you think it's silly in that instance as well? :?

Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 6 - 2018

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:41 pm
by eric
Talk to ten, sign one.. winning..
You do the maths

Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 6 - 2018

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:53 pm
by The Bedge
eric wrote:Talk to ten, sign one.. winning..
You do the maths

Sounds like a regularly Saturday night for me as a young buck hitting the clubs :lol:

Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 6 - 2018

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:05 pm
by Demon Juke
Executive Member wrote:
Arch44 wrote:
The Bedge wrote:
Executive Member wrote:wont be Steeley, he is more than happy doing the B Grade, well that's what I heard up here on the news in Rockhampton :D

Get your people to call my people and book an appointment.. make me an offer I cant refuse. 8) :lol:


Reckon I said to you last year at some stage you will be the next Lodge coach :lol:


got it confirmed that you got the gig, $400 a game is all it will cost you ;)


Reckon Ryan Mckee might have it, if not wants it.

Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 6 - 2018

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:25 pm
by Broken Down Hack
The Bedge wrote:
morell wrote:Such is modern amateur footy, I suppose.

Just another reason why I'm nearly done with it.

Well what are Mitchell Parks methods to recruit/retain? Do you rely solely on mates bringing mates or juniors coming through? What do you think coaches do when they come onboard?

The days are gone where people in the clubs catchment area exclusively play for that club, or generations of families stay at the same club.

Maybe your views and methodology are outdated and part of the reason MPFC is currently sitting in D7 with 8 blokes on the track each night.

Out of curiosity, what are your views on say representative sides? What about cricket or the likes if you're assembling a squad, particularly under age side (eg U21), plenty of guys you may not know, but if you're a coach it's your job to make a connection and try to find the best players you can - do you think it's silly in that instance as well? :?



8 blokes on the track at pre season, thats normally doesn't happen till at least half way through the season with there current coach .... all talk

Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 6 - 2018

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:53 pm
by morell
The Bedge wrote:
morell wrote:Such is modern amateur footy, I suppose.

Just another reason why I'm nearly done with it.

Well what are Mitchell Parks methods to recruit/retain?
We're not talking about retaining existing players. We're talking about looking someone up on social media and messaging them out of the blue when they have absolutely no connection to that club.

Look if that's your modus operandi, then all the luck to you. I personally think it's distasteful and its symbolic of the shitty culture Community football is in.

The Bedge wrote:Do you rely solely on mates bringing mates or juniors coming through?
Well contrary to popular thought I am not Mitchell Park and Mitchell Park isn't me, but yeah, I am old school, I like the connection to community, family and legacy that those methods bring.

The Bedge wrote:What do you think coaches do when they come onboard?
Exactly that, and I don't like it /Pauline

I would go as far as saying - any coach that moves clubs or resigns is restricted from clearing any players from their previous employer to their new club for 3 years.

That sort of logic exists in the corporate world, would love a rule like that here. Maybe that would reduce the "churn" that we're currently going through.

The Bedge wrote:The days are gone where people in the clubs catchment area exclusively play for that club, or generations of families stay at the same club.
You're probably right. That makes me very sad.

The Bedge wrote:Maybe your views and methodology are outdated and part of the reason MPFC is currently sitting in D7 with 8 blokes on the track each night.
As opposed to your views and methodology seeing Ingle Farm reach the pinnacle of football at the bottom of D5?

Maybe Mitchell Park's more community based approach has kept us alive, when many others would have failed by now?

The Bedge wrote:Out of curiosity, what are your views on say representative sides? What about cricket or the likes if you're assembling a squad, particularly under age side (eg U21), plenty of guys you may not know, but if you're a coach it's your job to make a connection and try to find the best players you can - do you think it's silly in that instance as well? :?
Completely different scenarios you galah :lol:

Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 6 - 2018

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:06 am
by The Bedge
morell wrote:Exactly that, and I don't like it /Pauline

I would go as far as saying - any coach that moves clubs or resigns is restricted from clearing any players from their previous employer to their new club for 3 years.:

So you don’t think coaches should approach players they DONT know, and be restricted from approaching players they DO know!?! :?

Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 6 - 2018

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:15 am
by jo172
For what it's worth philosophically scattergun recruiting/churn doesn't have good results of late.

Count the number of ROCS/PAOC blokes from the last two D1 Premiership sides who both went to those Colleges and had played there for a number of years. Similarly Goodwood the year before that.

Churning is a way to keep your head above water, doesn't allow you to develop.

Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 6 - 2018

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:19 am
by The Bedge
jo172 wrote:For what it's worth philosophically scattergun recruiting/churn doesn't have good results of late.

Count the number of ROCS/PAOC blokes from the last two D1 Premiership sides who both went to those Colleges and had played there for a number of years. Similarly Goodwood the year before that.

Churning is a way to keep your head above water, doesn't allow you to develop.

Yes, agreed - but in the instances of say Mitchell Park, Adel Lutheran, Houghton, Ingle Farm who don’t have strong or consistent juniors/feeder programs it becomes somewhat more of a necessity until they can be established.

Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 6 - 2018

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:28 am
by Lightning McQueen
The Bedge wrote:
eric wrote:Talk to ten, sign one.. winning..
You do the maths

Sounds like a regularly Saturday night for me as a young buck hitting the clubs :lol:

Bragger.

Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 6 - 2018

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:42 am
by Bombers4EVA
The Bedge wrote:
jo172 wrote:For what it's worth philosophically scattergun recruiting/churn doesn't have good results of late.

Count the number of ROCS/PAOC blokes from the last two D1 Premiership sides who both went to those Colleges and had played there for a number of years. Similarly Goodwood the year before that.

Churning is a way to keep your head above water, doesn't allow you to develop.

Yes, agreed - but in the instances of say Mitchell Park, Adel Lutheran, Houghton, Ingle Farm who don’t have strong or consistent juniors/feeder programs it becomes more of a necessity until they can be established.

Bedge how many junior sides does Ingle Farm FC have?

Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 6 - 2018

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:44 am
by Lightning McQueen
morell wrote:
The Bedge wrote:Do you rely solely on mates bringing mates or juniors coming through?
Well contrary to popular thought I am not Mitchell Park and Mitchell Park isn't me, but yeah, I am old school, I like the connection to community, family and legacy that those methods bring.



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Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 6 - 2018

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:01 am
by Bombers4EVA
Lightning McQueen wrote:
morell wrote:
The Bedge wrote:Do you rely solely on mates bringing mates or juniors coming through?
Well contrary to popular thought I am not Mitchell Park and Mitchell Park isn't me, but yeah, I am old school, I like the connection to community, family and legacy that those methods bring.


Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I remember those.

Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 6 - 2018

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:02 am
by The Bedge
Bombers4EVA wrote:Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I remember those.

This bloke.. missed the joke.. again! :roll: :D

Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 6 - 2018

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:06 am
by Bombers4EVA
The Bedge wrote:
Bombers4EVA wrote:Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I remember those.

This bloke.. missed the joke.. again! :roll: :D

Dude seriously you obviously can't see that all my posts on here are basically either sarcasm or just joining the group and dribbling crap. I understood the joke.

Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 6 - 2018

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:08 am
by The Bedge
Bombers4EVA wrote:
The Bedge wrote:
Bombers4EVA wrote:Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I remember those.

This bloke.. missed the joke.. again! :roll: :D

Dude seriously you obviously can't see that all my posts on here are basically either sarcasm or just joining the group and dribbling crap. I understood the joke.

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