SAAFL Division 7 2013

[marbles]

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Money talks here boys, therell be no shakin the buffalos away

[X Runna]

I don't know about money, but there has to be something going on. Someone mentioned the delegates voting on it at the meeting last night. What's the bet after the inept committee put it to the floor the vote was carried about 58 to 9? 58 clubs who don't give a f**k & just follow the proposal because it doesn't affect them and the 9 clubs who are in Div7 voting against it.

[Cohiba]

Ditto.....Someone has clearly lost his "Marbles" for such inane comment..

[mozzie]

Div 7 no doubt has to have C grade teams Atm, but please let's not have them complaining about playing A grade clubs. TTG and Henley, 2 great and strong clubs, would have played in 9 out of 10 Grand Finals in Div 7 in 2012, but ran in to the best Div 7 A grade team in a very long time. Sorry but Mitchell Park are going to be Div 5 or better very soon if their structures and players stay together which I am confident they will. Div 7 needs C grade teams but only the best will do and Henley will only make clubs like UniSa and Ovingham pale in to insignifigance. If the current proposed standings apply then Henley would be odds on to take out the flag and maybe join Adel Uni in Div 6. My thoughts only on what I know and have seen. Banter all you like.

Mate i think you are yanking your chain a bit to much. I have tried to bite my tongue about the way you seem to mange to put in about MP winning the flag in every second post you put up but to say that MP would of been better than SHOC or maybe even Mawson lakes from the year before is a stretch in my book. Even the Paralowie team that won the flag or Henley the year before were awesome teams.
I guess we may as well call of Div6 as MP seem to be the flag fav already. Yes it was great that u won a flag but ease up on thinking you were the best team since sliced bread.

[marbles]

I not stewpudd

[Cohiba]

I not stewpudd

Of course your not.....That would be insulting people who are..........

[Jimmy_041]

I really hope you two lads have plenty of money or do you think Legal Aid will help with your defence?

[johnny bravo]

Div 7 no doubt has to have C grade teams Atm, but please let's not have them complaining about playing A grade clubs. TTG and Henley, 2 great and strong clubs, would have played in 9 out of 10 Grand Finals in Div 7 in 2012, but ran in to the best Div 7 A grade team in a very long time. Sorry but Mitchell Park are going to be Div 5 or better very soon if their structures and players stay together which I am confident they will. Div 7 needs C grade teams but only the best will do and Henley will only make clubs like UniSa and Ovingham pale in to insignifigance. If the current proposed standings apply then Henley would be odds on to take out the flag and maybe join Adel Uni in Div 6. My thoughts only on what I know and have seen. Banter all you like.

So modest Funny thing is I've spoken to a heap of guys who played Div 7 last year and consensus was the comp was much weaker this season than it was in previous ones, they even said both yourselves & TTG wouldn't have got close to the 2 grand finalists of 2011 so who's lying? I went to the GF and I can tell you neither of you would have made the top 5 in Div 6 this year but please keep posting about it so it keeps inflating your ego and makes you feel good about yourself.

[zedman]

CLG 2007 premiership team was pretty handy as well i heard...

[marbles]

Im all for a new side in the comp, it means football in adelaide is becoming more popular and the league is expanding

but what makes no sense is why the league is throwing a spanner in its own works??

it aint some fictional random story of my creation, its a fact, and i simply here am an observer

any ridicule towards me is way off course.

what remains a mystery here is...

# Why is a new club with no players, let alone a reserves side being thrown into an established division where each club must have dual teams??

# Why is a little battler but much loved club in ovingham being thrown on the chopping board, being used as bait, and will inevitably be thrown to the wolves once unisa find enough players to fill 2 sides

# Why is the likelihood of multiple forfiets being ignored, and the long serving clubs already in the comp are being made to suffer??

# Why if A-Grade clubs being pushed up the ranks, is TTG a (c-grade side) being pushed up the ranks and made to suffer for next 2 years??

# Why isnt Angle Vale being pushed into div 6, when it has the new facilities, the aspirations to rise and being it div 6 consequenty attract more players

# Why after a season of massive thrashings upon the club of flinders uni is a sister club being brought in that will likely cop even bigger thrashings??

# Why is flinders uni being given free tickets to another wooden spoon, when if pushed into div 8 it could MAYBE finish as a 2013 finalist??

# Why, like flinders uni are smithfield welcome to linger in div 7, when it could be given a real crack at the division 8 premiership bringing great joy to the club, instead of another year of pain

# Why is a division 7 "almost finalist" in flinders park being relegated, when this time last year it was the hype of the competition when it made its way up the ranks for what was a great achievement?

# Why does modbury have to suffer a relegation, its done nothing wrong

# Why if C-Grade sides are being isolated from a-grade sides, isnt it simply being done now straight away. Separate the A-Grades from the C-Grades today and move on. C-Grade side wouldnt give a stuff, and the A-Grade sides will finally be relieved

# Why isnt a new club being given training wheels and placed in a C1 comp where volunteers (who keep clubs afloat) can congregate and put structures in place, instead of being thrown into the deep end where theyll likely drown

[morell]

they even said both yourselves & TTG wouldn't have got close to the 2 grand finalists of 2011 so who's lying?

The 2011 Mitchell Park side beat SHOC twice and had two pretty tight contests with Mawson Lakes. In fact if I had of held a mark at home against the Lakers we might have been able to overrun them. Oh well.

Finals are different and we failed there, but I think its a bit of a stretch to say we wouldn't have gotten close when we beat the victors during the year. In addition the 2012 Mitchell Park side was at least 10 goals better than 2011. There is no doubt in my mind that this years MP team would have given both SHOC and Mawson Lakes a very, very serious run for their money in the 2011 GF.

Having said all that I agree if we are to make the finals in Div 6 we will need to recruit well and add some strong depth to the squad. In addition to keeping everyone. The leap from Div 7 to Div 6 is huge and we have our work cut out.

And leave Yank Man alone, he is proud of his achievements and rightly so, the turn around at Mitchell Park that he was a massive part of has been extraordinary.

[Executive Member]

they even said both yourselves & TTG wouldn't have got close to the 2 grand finalists of 2011 so who's lying?

The 2011 Mitchell Park side beat SHOC twice and had two pretty tight contests with Mawson Lakes. In fact if I had of held a mark at home against the Lakers we might have been able to overrun them. Oh well.

Finals are different and we failed there, but I think its a bit of a stretch to say we wouldn't have gotten close when we beat the victors during the year. In addition the 2012 Mitchell Park side was at least 10 goals better than 2011. There is no doubt in my mind that this years MP team would have given both SHOC and Mawson Lakes a very, very serious run for their money in the 2011 GF.

Having said all that I agree if we are to make the finals in Div 6 we will need to recruit well and add some strong depth to the squad. In addition to keeping everyone. The leap from Div 7 to Div 6 is huge and we have our work cut out.

And leave Yank Man alone, he is proud of his achievements and rightly so, the turn around at Mitchell Park that he was a massive part of has been extraordinary.

Who cares
Mitchell Park have the 2012 Div 7 flag in their clubrooms, some sides you are talking about went up with nothing
You can only beat who turns up to play you

They have every right to be confident

[Footy Chick]

[And leave Yank Man alone, he is proud of his achievements and rightly so, the turn around at Mitchell Park that he was a massive part of has been extraordinary.

[Phantom Gossiper]

With the whole UniSa side, wouldn't/shouldn't the SAAFL have a list of requirements and standards that would need to be met before consideration of accepting a new club to join?

Constitution, some sort of evidence of financial stability, list of prospective player, 5 year plan of some sort, details of coaching and administration staff?

[old farmer]

With the whole UniSa side, wouldn't/shouldn't the SAAFL have a list of requirements and standards that would need to be met before consideration of accepting a new club to join?

Constitution, some sort of evidence of financial stability, list of prospective player, 5 year plan of some sort, details of coaching and administration staff?

WOW!! They are teaching you something at TAFE.

[finn]

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Your questions are valid - and perhaps could also be directed in an email to the League as I'm sure any weight of opinion may change their view as it's a draft program and placement at the moment.

what remains a mystery here is...

# Why is a new club with no players, let alone a reserves side being thrown into an established division where each club must have dual teams??
I'm guessing that the League are adopting a sink or swim approach to any new side - this the base level that you can compete at. There are arguments I guess for this being in Div 8 rather than Div 7 but it depends on how Div 8 is seen.

# Why is a little battler but much loved club in ovingham being thrown on the chopping board, being used as bait, and will inevitably be thrown to the wolves once unisa find enough players to fill 2 sides?
Perhaps its a call to try to get them to have two teams? Perhaps its because this scenario (will they have two teams, will they have enough for one) with Ovingham has occurred two or three times since 2000

# Why is the likelihood of multiple forfiets being ignored, and the long serving clubs already in the comp are being made to suffer??
I believe all clubs are subject to the same punitive measures if they forfeit...and who's to say that they wouldn't forfeit in any other grade thus affecting clubs and players in other divisions who also pay to play etc.

# Why if A-Grade clubs being pushed up the ranks, is TTG a (c-grade side) being pushed up the ranks and made to suffer for next 2 years??
Because they finished second in division 7.

# Why isnt Angle Vale being pushed into div 6, when it has the new facilities, the aspirations to rise and being it div 6 consequenty attract more players
Because they didn't make the Grand Final in Div 7.

# Why after a season of massive thrashings upon the club of flinders uni is a sister club being brought in that will likely cop even bigger thrashings??
Flinders Uni isn't a sister club to UniSA - it's like saying Adelaide Uni and Flinders are sister clubs. Geographically Flinders caters for a region as well as its courses of difference while UniSA campuses (campii?) are in the city, Mawson Lakes, Magill (for another year or so) and regionally. UniSA also has a potential goldmine with its reach into country kids coming down to study at UniSA - remembering in the past that Teacher's College was a perennial finalist. For me, it's also about these students connecting with their University in another manner and potentially enriching its culture.

# Why is flinders uni being given free tickets to another wooden spoon, when if pushed into div 8 it could MAYBE finish as a 2013 finalist??
Div 8 wasn't set up as part of the overall relegation/promotion initially - it was setup to cater for those clubs with 4 sides to make it easier for volunteers and players. Div 7 is looked at as the lowest A Grade division. I also believe that Flinders wish to stay in Div 7.

# Why, like flinders uni are smithfield welcome to linger in div 7, when it could be given a real crack at the division 8 premiership bringing great joy to the club, instead of another year of pain
They nominated for Div 7 - and three seasons ago were around the mark in Div 5. And Div 7 is looked at as the lowest A Grade division.

# Why is a division 7 "almost finalist" in flinders park being relegated, when this time last year it was the hype of the competition when it made its way up the ranks for what was a great achievement?
Good question. I'm guessing its because they were the last c grade up.

# Why does modbury have to suffer a relegation, its done nothing wrong
Numbers of teams determined this I'm guessing. It would give Div 7 an even ten and Div 8 nine or ten making for equitable draws in both grades. I'm unsure where they nominated also.

# Why if C-Grade sides are being isolated from a-grade sides, isnt it simply being done now straight away. Separate the A-Grades from the C-Grades today and move on. C-Grade side wouldnt give a stuff, and the A-Grade sides will finally be relieved
Because there'd be a vast discrepancy in the C grade competition and there'd be two sides up into div 6. I believe this would leave only four or five A grade sides in Div 7 (if you include UniSA) and another four C grade sides to be fitted into Div 8 currently as the current Uni Div 8 would then need to filter down into the C divisions. There'd be a twelve team A grade competition which is structurally inequitable. However if UniSA, Ovingham and Wingfield could get teams together this concept becomes more realistic - especially if any sides move from the Southern League.

# Why isnt a new club being given training wheels and placed in a C1 comp where volunteers (who keep clubs afloat) can congregate and put structures in place, instead of being thrown into the deep end where theyll likely drown

They'll need to do the same jobs regardless of divisions - it's more of a question of the level of talent they can attract- which we won't know until they actually play.

Having said all that, perhaps the League could take on board the questions posed by people. I've always argued that A grade teams should be required to play at a minimum level, that two teams in any club is preferable to one and that this is the minimum that any club should have. Perhaps timeframes for clubs to achieve this could be put into place so that any new club knows of the minimum expected to join the league - perhaps in this case UniSA and Ovingham do play in div 8 under the understanding that 2014 sees them in Div 7 either together or individually.

As an aside, is there a possibility that these clubs could form one (the UniSA Cats) given they're both blue and white and Ovingham is not far from the UniSA main campuses?

[Phantom Gossiper]

WOW!! They are teaching you something at TAFE.

i've finished TAFE about 3 months ago.. I'm a working class man now!

[old farmer]

Div 7 no doubt has to have C grade teams Atm, but please let's not have them complaining about playing A grade clubs. TTG and Henley, 2 great and strong clubs, would have played in 9 out of 10 Grand Finals in Div 7 in 2012, but ran in to the best Div 7 A grade team in a very long time. Sorry but Mitchell Park are going to be Div 5 or better very soon if their structures and players stay together which I am confident they will. Div 7 needs C grade teams but only the best will do and Henley will only make clubs like UniSa and Ovingham pale in to insignifigance. If the current proposed standings apply then Henley would be odds on to take out the flag and maybe join Adel Uni in Div 6. My thoughts only on what I know and have seen. Banter all you like.

So modest Funny thing is I've spoken to a heap of guys who played Div 7 last year and consensus was the comp was much weaker this season than it was in previous ones, they even said both yourselves & TTG wouldn't have got close to the 2 grand finalists of 2011 so who's lying? I went to the GF and I can tell you neither of you would have made the top 5 in Div 6 this year but please keep posting about it so it keeps inflating your ego and makes you feel good about yourself.

Div 6 was a very tough comp last year and should be no different this year..Mawson Lakes and Colonel Light have come up in previous years and are still in Div 6.. Work hard, recruit well and get this years celebrations out of the system because 2013 will be no walk in the park.

[Hefty]

Seeing as the Div 8 2013 thread isn't up & running (sort it out mods ) and Div 7 has some C/D grade interests I am wondering who will be competing in Div 8 next year? Will any teams from Div 7 be relegated and will SMOSH/Broadview be promoted? I think it was voted on pre Div 8 that no clubs would be promoted from this league??

So, potential teams for next season;

Golden Grove
PAOC
Adelaide Uni
SMOSH
Mitcham
North Haven
Salisbury
Broadview

Gepps X - would find it highly unlikely they would fill a D grade side as they have struggled the past 2 seasons.
Modbury?? - would Modbury join Div 8 next year? No disrespect to Modbury but they have seemed to struggle in Div 7 of late

Have I missed anyone? Will any other 'C' grade teams be fielding 'D' grades teams for 2013? Hope Valley?

[Footy Chick]

Stop yer bitching

Now you can go and re-post this in the correct thread thanks