SAAFL Div 3 2008

[hanno_7]

I have it on good authority that an ex AFL player will be lining up for 6 games for salisbury west due to his relationship with the coach. He was a club champion at his adelaide based club and if this guy plays expect more of his mates to follow.

When i hear more i will let more people know

Wanganeen.

Wanganeen will be away in South AFrica until mid February with the AFL's youth indigenous team. Fair to say he'd be the best player to ever front in this division if he stripped for a game.

Rog Are you saying Wanga's is better than Macca? (accolades aside)

silly post
of course wangas is better. does macca have a dangly thing round his neck that reads brownlow

[rogernumber10]

I think what was a quiet side-discussion may become a touch fiery now

[Footy Chick]

Hanno

Not a silly post at all, becuase Im sure if Macca had been sucked into the VFL system rather than CHOOSING to stay in SA, that he would also have a dangly brownlow hanging around his neck.. I wasn't even directly saying that Macca was infact a better player and if you read the post PROPERLY, it said accolades aside.. next you'll be saying that Wanga's is better than Russell Ebert...

My god, I'm sticking up for Macca, what has the world come to?

But yes, we digress and perhaps a subject which can be discussed in another thread.

Back to div 3 talk now...

[LaughingKookaburra]

Kilburn in their div 1 prime aparently spent some big $$$,so have some other former powerhouse clubs (Glandore,Greenacres,Rosewater). Isn't that why the SAAFL brought it the Premier League and the Amateur League system back in 95,to seperate the paying clubs from the non paying clubs.That worked a treat . Majority of clubs from div 3 up (Apart from old schollars) spend big on players.Once you get above div 4 so does the player payments.

You would have no idea on what Kilburn spent on players mate, you have no idea as most of the posters who post crap... Like most, Kilburn do pay players, which fits into the structure etc etc, not all get paid.

You are right mate, I (Meaning 'myself') don't know but the amounts I have been told from an extremely reliable source (Other posters who I know would know who I get this info from) tell me different. Don't need to mention names, but trust me they are very relaible. You dont just drop from being the strongest club in the SAAFL down to div 3 in no time because some players leave. A few years ago werent Kilburn in the paper saying they were broke and couldnt pay council fees, the exact same time they wen't on the slide.Co-incidence?? Mind you I dont have an issue with Kilburn and I never disclosed how much money they were spending.Hey were in div 5,big money could just be $50 a game for A-graders. Read into it what you want...

[NO-MERCY]

I thought the salary cap was 35K.
I've never heard of the 10K for coaches.
Felch- the amatuer league are meant to police it & demand clubs books etc..
What do they do? sweet f!ck all.
Burglar- i'd like to know the real salary cap like you as theres clubs spending 35K-80K & the League know this.
Problem is they enforce something by mouth, but can't back it up with action, when clearly clubs are making a mockery out of the system.
Talk about Amatuers!

Can you give us an example or any evidence of a club making a mockery of the system.

You know yourself Andy, have a look in your own backyard!

[Andy #24]

I thought the salary cap was 35K.
I've never heard of the 10K for coaches.
Felch- the amatuer league are meant to police it & demand clubs books etc..
What do they do? sweet f!ck all.
Burglar- i'd like to know the real salary cap like you as theres clubs spending 35K-80K & the League know this.
Problem is they enforce something by mouth, but can't back it up with action, when clearly clubs are making a mockery out of the system.
Talk about Amatuers!

Can you give us an example or any evidence of a club making a mockery of the system.

You know yourself Andy, have a look in your own backyard!

Thankyou for giving me what I expected from you No-Idea.

You've got know evidence at all and just throw up whichever club you don't like(probably because they beat your B-Grade).

Maybe the Amateur League should investigate salary cap breaches and appoint you the chief inquisitor.

Kilburn are guilty of breaching the salary cap because No-Mercy says so.

[boozehound]

Oh come on....we all know there are ways to get around the salary cap and Kilburn will blow it this year for sure........

"sponsors" paying players directly, Supporter clubs doing the same thing...it's a joke.....

Rumours about what clubs are spending are just that but generally when there is smoke there is fire. Look at the big picture; A heap of rumours about large player payments, a heap of new and well credentialled recruits, it all points to Kilburn blowing the cap this year no worries.

I know blokes on here will defend their club and that's expected but do you really expect the rest of us to swollow it.....

[Start]

Oh come on....we all know there are ways to get around the salary cap and Kilburn will blow it this year for sure........

"sponsors" paying players directly, Supporter clubs doing the same thing...it's a joke.....

Rumours about what clubs are spending are just that but generally when there is smoke there is fire. Look at the big picture; A heap of rumours about large player payments, a heap of new and well credentialled recruits, it all points to Kilburn blowing the cap this year no worries.

I know blokes on here will defend their club and that's expected but do you really expect the rest of us to swollow it.....

Boozehound have you ever thought that Kilburn have in the past been a very driven and succesful club in the past and that when you people talk amatuer league Kilburn are one of teh select clubs that come to mind? Ok the last few seasons have been disappointing from the clubs view, but unlike other clubs, they have got people with the know how on how to sell the club!, put things in place to make the club succesful. Steve O'Connor is one the best coaches I know of, not just in terms of coaching but his ability to inspire players to play for Kilburn.

Yep Kilburn pay players .. so What!! But I know of handful of paid players who whilst Kilburn where struggling, palyed for nothing so the club could recruit new players to teh club, these players could grab $250 easy from any other club.

Ill infromed people like yourself can cast thought over what a club pays, does, or is offering to players, coaches, and staff, but unless your involved then you have no idea really do you......???????

[Fusebox]

Oh come on....we all know there are ways to get around the salary cap and Kilburn will blow it this year for sure........

"sponsors" paying players directly, Supporter clubs doing the same thing...it's a joke.....

Rumours about what clubs are spending are just that but generally when there is smoke there is fire. Look at the big picture; A heap of rumours about large player payments, a heap of new and well credentialled recruits, it all points to Kilburn blowing the cap this year no worries.

I know blokes on here will defend their club and that's expected but do you really expect the rest of us to swollow it.....

Well put boozehound, i can understand Andy defending his club but even blind freddy can see Kilburn's new years resolution." pay our way back to div2, then if we are successful & still have money we'll try for div1".
Council grants have been non stop at Kilburn for years.

[NO-MERCY]

I thought the salary cap was 35K.
I've never heard of the 10K for coaches.
Felch- the amatuer league are meant to police it & demand clubs books etc..
What do they do? sweet f!ck all.
Burglar- i'd like to know the real salary cap like you as theres clubs spending 35K-80K & the League know this.
Problem is they enforce something by mouth, but can't back it up with action, when clearly clubs are making a mockery out of the system.
Talk about Amatuers!

Can you give us an example or any evidence of a club making a mockery of the system.

You know yourself Andy, have a look in your own backyard!

Thankyou for giving me what I expected from you No-Idea.

You've got know evidence at all and just throw up whichever club you don't like(probably because they beat your B-Grade).

Maybe the Amateur League should investigate salary cap breaches and appoint you the chief inquisitor.

Kilburn are guilty of breaching the salary cap because No-Mercy says so.

Yes i'd love that appointment Andy, it would open up a can of worms.
I'd start up the top with Kilburn then Salis Nth, Gepps Cross, Gaza.
The Amatuer League would be shown up in just how lazy they are & they know it & people like you & your club would be sh!tting yourselves.

[Andy #24]

Oh come on....we all know there are ways to get around the salary cap and Kilburn will blow it this year for sure........

"sponsors" paying players directly, Supporter clubs doing the same thing...it's a joke.....

Rumours about what clubs are spending are just that but generally when there is smoke there is fire. Look at the big picture; A heap of rumours about large player payments, a heap of new and well credentialled recruits, it all points to Kilburn blowing the cap this year no worries.

I know blokes on here will defend their club and that's expected but do you really expect the rest of us to swollow it.....

Smoke? I'm not sure about that! Maybe piss and wind from blokes like you, does that mean there's fire.

There is no heap of rumours, just one or two ridiculous ones on here. Of course there was always going to be a lot of recruits, we lost almost an entire team.

Kilburn has the best facilities in the SAAFL and a coach who is known as being successful throughout South Australia. Players would want to play for us for that reason. If you look at quotes in the Gawler paper that someone posted on here earlier, one player said it made sense to follow Ocker because he had played his best football under him. I believe that rather than rumour mongering idiots like boozehound who is to scared to tell us which club he is from for fear of revealing his own hipocrisy.

As for you No-Idea, Seaton would have spent the most money in div 2 last year. You've even snared a couple of our players in the past. How much did that cost?

Kilburn has a proud history, great facilities and people which are all reasons to play football there. I understand that you can't comprehend this as it lies outside your experience as a lice that jumped from one unfortunate club to another.

[Dogwatcher]

Reading Boozehound's quotes, I don't see where he's being hypocritical.
He's not saying it's bad that clubs do spend money as such, he's saying that many do spend significant dollars on players and will continue to do so. The hypocrisy in this sort of debate is often from those who deny it actually happens.

And yes Andy, I do know who BH is.

[Andy #24]

What I object to is Boozehound accusing us of breaking the salary cap and spending ridiculous amounts on players when he has no evidence of it.

I dare say that if he did reveal which club he was from it would be easy enough to give examples of them spending just as much money as everyone else.

[Dogwatcher]

So clubs like Kilburn haven't spent ridiculous amounts of money in the past? And won't do it again? Is it beyond the realms of possibility?

[Andy #24]

Nothing's impossible but it is still far fetched. All I would like to know is if there is any credible reason for believing we will break the cap besides the fact we have recruited a guy who played league last year who is related to one of our coaches.

I was told the amount spent on players before we went down to div 2 and even that was nowhere near $85k.

[NO-MERCY]

As for you No-Idea, Seaton would have spent the most money in div 2 last year. You've even snared a couple of our players in the past. How much did that cost?

Don't know what they paid for Harvey & Hawkins, over $250 i suppose. (over the top ) i must admit.
As for last year Andy you'd be surprised what they paid ( very little ).
Its just because they made the grand final your saying they paid big dollars?
A few players that left for Districts last year was a good thing for the club in one way as it free'd up some cash flow,
You take out Harvey, Hawkins, Peucker, Christofis, Lynch, Muscara, Walsh & your losing alot of experience i'd think Andy, wouldn't you say that?
We probably payed what you club payed last year except we got our money's worth!

[carey]

nearly every person i talk to reckon the only problem with kilburn is phil martin always has been and always will be and that has come from past players , supporters and even a couple of sponsers so there must be some truth in it ???????

[Andy #24]

As for you No-Idea, Seaton would have spent the most money in div 2 last year. You've even snared a couple of our players in the past. How much did that cost?

Don't know what they paid for Harvey & Hawkins, over $250 i suppose. (over the top ) i must admit.
As for last year Andy you'd be surprised what they paid ( very little ).
Its just because they made the grand final your saying they paid big dollars?
A few players that left for Districts last year was a good thing for the club in one way as it free'd up some cash flow,
You take out Harvey, Hawkins, Peucker, Christofis, Lynch, Muscara, Walsh & your losing alot of experience i'd think Andy, wouldn't you say that?
We probably payed what you club payed last year except we got our money's worth!

There were still plenty of players to take up your coin last year. Cox, Wilkins, Place, Gower got a pay rise, Coard. What happens buddy, buy your way into div 1 then run out of coin?

[NO-MERCY]

As for you No-Idea, Seaton would have spent the most money in div 2 last year. You've even snared a couple of our players in the past. How much did that cost?

Don't know what they paid for Harvey & Hawkins, over $250 i suppose. (over the top ) i must admit.
As for last year Andy you'd be surprised what they paid ( very little ).
Its just because they made the grand final your saying they paid big dollars?
A few players that left for Districts last year was a good thing for the club in one way as it free'd up some cash flow,
You take out Harvey, Hawkins, Peucker, Christofis, Lynch, Muscara, Walsh & your losing alot of experience i'd think Andy, wouldn't you say that?
We probably payed what you club payed last year except we got our money's worth!

There were still plenty of players to take up your coin last year. Cox, Wilkins, Place, Gower got a pay rise, Coard. What happens buddy, buy your way into div 1 then run out of coin?

You are a real fool Andy! no.1 we wouldn't waste our money on Place to start with. Thats why we pi--ed him off.
no.2 Cox come mid year for bugger all, would of got alot more money going somewhere like Kilburn who had nothing you could brag about.
no.3 Wilkins, you guys at Kilburn may pay more than $150 but we were lucky he was giving the club something back & demanded stuff all.
One thing with Seaton is they won't go broke & trying so hard Andy like you are to take the heat off your own club & assume these Seaton players are on as bigger money than yours isn't going to work.
I'll give you the TOOL of the week prize for trying though.
What else you want to throw at me you mooron?
You'd be lucky to get 30K out of Seaton in 2007.
Keep trying Andy, no-ones going to beat what Kilburn are paying this year or what they payed under Delaney & Roach in your successful era.

[Andy #24]

I'm sorry No-Idea, you're right.

Everyone at clubs like Henley and Kilburn get paid huge amounts but everyone at Seaton plays for the love of the club. I'd love to play they're too. Getting abused by ferals and stepping over Woodstock cans in the carpark is loads of fun.

Mate you are a joke. All you can say is "Kilburn pay loads because I say so", and "Seaton don't pay because I say so". Come back with something credible and write your fairy tales somewhere else.