SA Footy

cracka wrote:

redyellow&blue wrote:

whufc wrote:

jo172 wrote:Might also add that for an offence apparently so serious to warrant an extraordinary fine/huge suspensions that 4 APPS points seems a bit trifling? One player a year?

Yep 100%.

Real misalignment between the financial fine and the players fine.

Personally if the breaches were 'so serious' then imo a fair result would be the club can still operate but they would have next to no points (which can be tracked through APPS) and that we would see them drop through down through the grades.

At the moment its hard to see how they would open the doors with such a fine.

No one learns that way. Why would it be fair? how many clubs would have lost or been relegated because GAZA were not playing fair by being over the cap and rorting the system?


I would hazard a guess that GAZA have
- been over the cap by big $$ for more then before 2018
- it's endemic at the club with multiple parties involved.
- It's cultural at some clubs to do this kind of thing.

Id' go as far to even suspend the players that got extra payments from playing in any comp anywhere for a year, and ban then from being allowed to sign contracts for 5 years. You want to play? play for free champ.

That's what would p!ss me off if I was an administrator of a club. The players seem to get off without punishment. Very happy to take the money

Footy Chick wrote:

whufc wrote:What would happen with the $350k.

Would it just sit in the coffers at HQ.....

Is there a better use for the $$$$$$. If SAAFL were receiving that amount of money i would expect them to outline exactly how that money is going to benefit football/juniors/clubs in the SAAFL. Not just the generic 'will go towards a sustainable comp' because you would never expect to strike gold with that level of money for nothing which it essentially is as the SAAFL weren't financially out of pocket from Gaza breaches (unless there is lawyer fees etc then its totally understandable)

WHOA... hold up.

This had nothing to do with the Adelaide Footy League, and they were kept independent of any investigations.

It's the South Australian Community Football League - which are a sub-committee of the SANFL.

AdFL only get told as a courtesy that one of their clubs is being investigated, I don't even think they're told WHO is being investigated until much later down the track.

Individual penalties

Club official John Cooper suspended for three years from holding any official role with an affiliated League or club and fined $2,000.
Senior coach at the time, Tim Leehane, suspended for 12 months from holding any official role with an affiliated League or club and fined $1,000.
Player Lachlan McGregor fined $3,500 ($1,000 of which is suspended) and suspended for eight matches in the 2019 season.
A second player, whose name is supressed, fined $1,500 ($1,000 of which is suspended) and suspended for two matches in the 2019 season.

whufc wrote:You punish the players and guess what never happens again.......players dobbing in clubs which is pretty much the only way clubs can be proven of a breach.

Mr Beefy wrote:

whufc wrote:

jo172 wrote:Might also add that for an offence apparently so serious to warrant an extraordinary fine/huge suspensions that 4 APPS points seems a bit trifling? One player a year?

Yep 100%.

Real misalignment between the financial fine and the players fine.

Personally if the breaches were 'so serious' then imo a fair result would be the club can still operate but they would have next to no points (which can be tracked through APPS) and that we would see them drop through down through the grades.

At the moment its hard to see how they would open the doors with such a fine.

I agree the fine is totally excessive, unless their books showed the could afford it. They are dropping down the grades even with the rorting

Mr Beefy wrote:

jo172 wrote:

redyellow&blue wrote:

whufc wrote:$300k fine for anything involving semi amateur sport seems extremely excessive, feel for the junior football program which will suffer as a result.

EDIT - be ready for the deluge of players that will self report before the clubs can do it...

It's curious isn't it.

I've been expecting the deluge every time a club has been pinged (Padthaway and Willaston for example) but it's never seemed to come for whatever reason.

A lot of players wouldn't even know the rules

Jimmy_041 wrote:

Mr Beefy wrote:

whufc wrote:

jo172 wrote:Might also add that for an offence apparently so serious to warrant an extraordinary fine/huge suspensions that 4 APPS points seems a bit trifling? One player a year?

Yep 100%.

Real misalignment between the financial fine and the players fine.

Personally if the breaches were 'so serious' then imo a fair result would be the club can still operate but they would have next to no points (which can be tracked through APPS) and that we would see them drop through down through the grades.

At the moment its hard to see how they would open the doors with such a fine.

I agree the fine is totally excessive, unless their books showed the could afford it. They are dropping down the grades even with the rorting

I am no longer involved in footy admin but, from memory, the fine is equal to the over payment

whufc wrote:You punish the players and guess what never happens again.......players dobbing in clubs which is pretty much the only way clubs can be proven of a breach.

What it does become though is a massive 'buyer beware' as most clubs will know who the players dobbing in clubs are.

jo172 wrote:Definitely takes two to tango, from memory when Kybolite got done the players involved copped a slap on the wrists at least?

EDIT: https://sanfl.com.au/league/news/kybybolite-fc-accepts-penalties-for-player-salary-cap-breach/

Individual penalties

Club official John Cooper suspended for three years from holding any official role with an affiliated League or club and fined $2,000.
Senior coach at the time, Tim Leehane, suspended for 12 months from holding any official role with an affiliated League or club and fined $1,000.
Player Lachlan McGregor fined $3,500 ($1,000 of which is suspended) and suspended for eight matches in the 2019 season.
A second player, whose name is supressed, fined $1,500 ($1,000 of which is suspended) and suspended for two matches in the 2019 season.

Armchair expert wrote:Its okay, just get your players jobs, free uni, discounts, free stuff, netball contracts etc. etc.

cracka wrote:

Armchair expert wrote:Its okay, just get your players jobs, free uni, discounts, free stuff, netball contracts etc. etc.

Or if the player has a business, pay them for services that don't actually get done or well overpay for their services

cracka wrote:

Armchair expert wrote:Its okay, just get your players jobs, free uni, discounts, free stuff, netball contracts etc. etc.

Or if the player has a business, pay them for services that don't actually get done or well overpay for their services

cracka wrote:

Armchair expert wrote:Its okay, just get your players jobs, free uni, discounts, free stuff, netball contracts etc. etc.

Or if the player has a business, pay them for services that don't actually get done or well overpay for their services