SAAFLDiv C4 2012

Adelaide Footy League Talk

Re: SAAFLDiv C4 2012

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:59 am

wristwatcher wrote:No wonder teams put 19 on the field then. Not saying it was a deliberate ploy but there is not much of a deterant to stop teams from doing it if its just a free and a 25m penalty from the centre.


Should be a shot at goal from the goal line & the other way round for an incorrect call.
HOGG SHIELD DIVISION V WINNER 2018.
User avatar
Lightning McQueen
Coach
 
Posts: 53588
Joined: Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:43 am
Location: Radiator Springs
Has liked: 4611 times
Been liked: 8560 times

Re: SAAFLDiv C4 2012

Postby Executive Member » Mon Aug 27, 2012 11:07 am

wristwatcher wrote:No wonder teams put 19 on the field then. Not saying it was a deliberate ploy but there is not much of a deterant to stop teams from doing it if its just a free and a 25m penalty from the centre.


should be 50m penalty from where the ball was when the count done
Executive Member
Veteran
 
Posts: 3515
Joined: Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:43 pm
Has liked: 3 times
Been liked: 140 times

Re: SAAFLDiv C4 2012

Postby 1 club » Mon Aug 27, 2012 4:44 pm

Executive Member wrote:
wristwatcher wrote:Well done to CBC who were to good for us today by 3 goals. Good action packed game in which despite being played in heavy conditions had a fairly high skill level. Great crowd and good atmosphere out at the Payneham Oval today.
Taking nothing away from CBC but i dont think we played anywhere near where we have in the last 9 games. Hopefully we will improve next week v Trinity.

For anyone wondering there was a count today in which the Dolphins had too many players on the ground and i have been told that CBC will not be stripped of their match score.


Just to let everyone know that the League hasn't stripped scores for around 10 years maybe longer so it is not a new thing 8)


2 years ago i was involved in a count and the other teams score was scrapped back to 0.0 there and then.Cbc had an extra player for the 3rd quarter and we couldnt work out why they had loose men so much,went over it again at the start of the last and realized cbc had 19 players :shock: we caught them out and nothings done?? :? cheating in my book,so who said cheaters never prosper?Hope Eastern park smash cbc this week and we can beat Trinity and get another crack at them next week,afew boys not happy about how they cheated and are keen for a rematch
1 club
Rookie
 
 
Posts: 138
Joined: Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:40 am
Has liked: 0 time
Been liked: 0 time

Re: SAAFLDiv C4 2012

Postby Wild Thing » Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:05 pm

1 club wrote:
Executive Member wrote:
wristwatcher wrote:Well done to CBC who were to good for us today by 3 goals. Good action packed game in which despite being played in heavy conditions had a fairly high skill level. Great crowd and good atmosphere out at the Payneham Oval today.
Taking nothing away from CBC but i dont think we played anywhere near where we have in the last 9 games. Hopefully we will improve next week v Trinity.

For anyone wondering there was a count today in which the Dolphins had too many players on the ground and i have been told that CBC will not be stripped of their match score.


Just to let everyone know that the League hasn't stripped scores for around 10 years maybe longer so it is not a new thing 8)


2 years ago i was involved in a count and the other teams score was scrapped back to 0.0 there and then.Cbc had an extra player for the 3rd quarter and we couldnt work out why they had loose men so much,went over it again at the start of the last and realized cbc had 19 players :shock: we caught them out and nothings done?? :? cheating in my book,so who said cheaters never prosper?Hope Eastern park smash cbc this week and we can beat Trinity and get another crack at them next week,afew boys not happy about how they cheated and are keen for a rematch


1 club - There was no cheating - it was an honest mistake. I suppose we were cheating in the first half as well when you were 6 goals down? Good luck against Trinity.

Wristwatcher - thanks for the honest assessment of the game - hope you enjoyed your first finals game
User avatar
Wild Thing
Rookie
 
Posts: 120
Joined: Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:09 pm
Has liked: 0 time
Been liked: 0 time

Re: SAAFLDiv C4 2012

Postby 1 club » Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:09 pm

Wild Thing wrote:
1 club wrote:
Executive Member wrote:
wristwatcher wrote:Well done to CBC who were to good for us today by 3 goals. Good action packed game in which despite being played in heavy conditions had a fairly high skill level. Great crowd and good atmosphere out at the Payneham Oval today.
Taking nothing away from CBC but i dont think we played anywhere near where we have in the last 9 games. Hopefully we will improve next week v Trinity.

For anyone wondering there was a count today in which the Dolphins had too many players on the ground and i have been told that CBC will not be stripped of their match score.


Just to let everyone know that the League hasn't stripped scores for around 10 years maybe longer so it is not a new thing 8)


2 years ago i was involved in a count and the other teams score was scrapped back to 0.0 there and then.Cbc had an extra player for the 3rd quarter and we couldnt work out why they had loose men so much,went over it again at the start of the last and realized cbc had 19 players :shock: we caught them out and nothings done?? :? cheating in my book,so who said cheaters never prosper?Hope Eastern park smash cbc this week and we can beat Trinity and get another crack at them next week,afew boys not happy about how they cheated and are keen for a rematch


1 club - There was no cheating - it was an honest mistake. I suppose we were cheating in the first half as well when you were 6 goals down? Good luck against Trinity.

Wristwatcher - thanks for the honest assessment of the game - hope you enjoyed your first finals game

Sorry if breaking the rules of 18 players on the field is against the rules then yes you were cheating
1 club
Rookie
 
 
Posts: 138
Joined: Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:40 am
Has liked: 0 time
Been liked: 0 time

Re: SAAFLDiv C4 2012

Postby Wild Thing » Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:26 pm

2 years ago i was involved in a count and the other teams score was scrapped back to 0.0 there and then.Cbc had an extra player for the 3rd quarter and we couldnt work out why they had loose men so much,went over it again at the start of the last and realized cbc had 19 players :shock: we caught them out and nothings done?? :? cheating in my book,so who said cheaters never prosper?Hope Eastern park smash cbc this week and we can beat Trinity and get another crack at them next week,afew boys not happy about how they cheated and are keen for a rematch[/quote]

1 club - There was no cheating - it was an honest mistake. I suppose we were cheating in the first half as well when you were 6 goals down? Good luck against Trinity.

Wristwatcher - thanks for the honest assessment of the game - hope you enjoyed your first finals game[/quote]

Sorry if breaking the rules of 18 players on the field is against the rules then yes you were cheating[/quote]

So if you give away a free kick (i.e break the rules) that is cheating? What about getting reported for striking - is that cheating? Maybe I should ask the PNU bloke who got reported if he was cheating. Stop sooking about the result mate - you lost - move on to your next game.
User avatar
Wild Thing
Rookie
 
Posts: 120
Joined: Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:09 pm
Has liked: 0 time
Been liked: 0 time

Re: SAAFLDiv C4 2012

Postby Tony Clifton » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:39 pm

Haha! Sounds like a firey preliminary final brewing.

I thought we'd run an extra player onto the ground a few times this season and was frantically counting bench players. Had forgotten to count myself... :oops:
This is Tony Clifton! A name to respect! A name to fear!
User avatar
Tony Clifton
League - Top 5
 
 
Posts: 2747
Joined: Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:00 pm
Has liked: 1484 times
Been liked: 253 times
Grassroots Team: Adelaide University

Re: SAAFLDiv C4 2012

Postby Masha » Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:46 pm

LOL...sounds like the rematch is gonna be a classic if it happens. Have to make my way down for that one. Well done to CBC on a big win, did not expect that one.

Friday night footy I believe this weekend with epfc vs CBC, gonna be a good night for it.
Masha
League Bench Warmer
 
Posts: 1246
Joined: Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:28 pm
Has liked: 2 times
Been liked: 12 times
Grassroots Team: Brahma Lodge

Re: SAAFLDiv C4 2012

Postby Wazz » Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:21 pm

Masha wrote:LOL...sounds like the rematch is gonna be a classic if it happens. Have to make my way down for that one. Well done to CBC on a big win, did not expect that one.

Friday night footy I believe this weekend with epfc vs CBC, gonna be a good night for it.


Following from SAAFL Rules 2012 - IMO the executive should have taken the score away but it is to their discretion as always

28.3 Where the team has more than the permitted number of players on the playing field the following shall apply:
(a) field umpire shall instruct both goal umpires to record the scores of both teams at the time of the player count.
(b) a field umpire shall award a free kick to the captain or acting captain of the opposing team which shall be taken at the centre circle or where play was stopped, whichever is the greater penalty against the offending team;
(c) a fifty metre penalty shall then be imposed from the position where the free kick was awarded; and
(d) upon completing the count the field umpire(s) shall ensure that each team has the permitted number of players on the field prior to recommencing the match
(e) the field umpire as soon as practical after the match, shall report to The League that a request has been made to count the number of players in a team and the number of players actually counted.
(f) The League shall determine whether the offending team shall lose all points which it had scored in the match up to the time of the count, and if so determined The League shall have power to vary the scores of the match and/or provide such other penalty as deemed appropriate by The League.
Wazz
Member
 
 
Posts: 82
Joined: Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:07 pm
Has liked: 0 time
Been liked: 0 time
Grassroots Team: Eastern Park

Re: SAAFLDiv C4 2012

Postby Wild Thing » Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:38 pm

Wazz wrote:
Masha wrote:LOL...sounds like the rematch is gonna be a classic if it happens. Have to make my way down for that one. Well done to CBC on a big win, did not expect that one.

Friday night footy I believe this weekend with epfc vs CBC, gonna be a good night for it.


Following from SAAFL Rules 2012 - IMO the executive should have taken the score away but it is to their discretion as always

28.3 Where the team has more than the permitted number of players on the playing field the following shall apply:
(a) field umpire shall instruct both goal umpires to record the scores of both teams at the time of the player count.
(b) a field umpire shall award a free kick to the captain or acting captain of the opposing team which shall be taken at the centre circle or where play was stopped, whichever is the greater penalty against the offending team;
(c) a fifty metre penalty shall then be imposed from the position where the free kick was awarded; and
(d) upon completing the count the field umpire(s) shall ensure that each team has the permitted number of players on the field prior to recommencing the match
(e) the field umpire as soon as practical after the match, shall report to The League that a request has been made to count the number of players in a team and the number of players actually counted.
(f) The League shall determine whether the offending team shall lose all points which it had scored in the match up to the time of the count, and if so determined The League shall have power to vary the scores of the match and/or provide such other penalty as deemed appropriate by The League.


I was just a plain f*ck up which had no bearing on the result as the count was called approx. 2-3 minutes into the quarter hence the decision by the League. The accusation that we had an extra player on for the entire 3rd quarter and that we were cheating is complete rubbish and just sour grapes. I will have nothing further to say on this....bring on Eastern Park
User avatar
Wild Thing
Rookie
 
Posts: 120
Joined: Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:09 pm
Has liked: 0 time
Been liked: 0 time

Re: SAAFLDiv C4 2012

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:06 pm

I was robbed of the medal last night!!! :(( :(( :(( .... if only I had played more than 3 games! :lol:
Phantom Gossiper
Coach
 
 
Posts: 11144
Joined: Sun Nov 09, 2008 4:35 pm
Has liked: 402 times
Been liked: 285 times

Re: SAAFLDiv C4 2012

Postby wristwatcher » Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:27 pm

Didnt Ben Smith from Eastern Park get 31 votes lol. Not sure what you would have done in those 3 games to bridge the gap but he seemed a fairly clear winner. 13 votes clear IIRC and 26 clear of anyone from IF :lol:

Congrats to Ben Smith on what must have been a super year
The PNU Falcs 2005,06,13 x 2,14 and Div 1 Premiers in 2019......The SA 3peat - 2003,04,05
User avatar
wristwatcher
Coach
 
Posts: 7060
Joined: Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:50 pm
Location: Adelaide Oval. The happiest place on earth
Has liked: 18 times
Been liked: 866 times

Re: SAAFLDiv C4 2012

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:30 pm

wristwatcher wrote:Didnt Ben Smith from Eastern Park get 31 votes lol. Not sure what you would have done in those 3 games to bridge the gap but he seemed a fairly clear winner. 13 votes clear IIRC and 26 clear of anyone from IF :lol:

Congrats to Ben Smith on what must have been a super year

:lol: 31 votes is ridiculous! But well done to him and EP on what has been a successful season!
Phantom Gossiper
Coach
 
 
Posts: 11144
Joined: Sun Nov 09, 2008 4:35 pm
Has liked: 402 times
Been liked: 285 times

Re: SAAFLDiv C4 2012

Postby wristwatcher » Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:39 pm

MEDAL COUNTS ARE FUNNY THINGS.....Much like Brownlows!!!!
Last night the Div 4 medallist Ian Perrie broke the record for most votes with 39 yet players have won with 14 votes before. You just never know especially in the C Grade medal counts where there is huge number turnover in a lot of cases, forfeits, withdrawels and for the first time last night at the association medal count a slide came up that said "WASHOUT" LOL LOL LOL :lol: . How the hell where the other games played then??? :shock:
Regardless yes 31 is a massive number and that was probably from 17 games at most with Salis West pulling out. Im sure he will be closely monitored in his next 2 games
The PNU Falcs 2005,06,13 x 2,14 and Div 1 Premiers in 2019......The SA 3peat - 2003,04,05
User avatar
wristwatcher
Coach
 
Posts: 7060
Joined: Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:50 pm
Location: Adelaide Oval. The happiest place on earth
Has liked: 18 times
Been liked: 866 times

Re: SAAFLDiv C4 2012

Postby Wazz » Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:09 pm

Terrific hard fought win by Eastern Park over CBC on Saturday, well done to the boys. CBC jumped them early playing some very good footy bit to the lads credit worked their way back into the game. One thing I did notice was that Bolitho played for CBC which is interesting in the fact that he got a permit to play with a 8B & 8C game tally. My understanding of SAAFL rule 34.1(b) is that if the player plays two games on the same day only the higher division match only will be considered. Checking dates he played B's & C's twice on the same day effectively making him a 8B & 6C tally. How did he get a permit plus they certainly aren't short of players as CBC have almost 50 players qualified for C4 finals (on paper anyway). I would think there are quite a few guys who played in their C's this season who might be peeved about missing out.

Good luck to PNU & CBC in the prelim this week.
Wazz
Member
 
 
Posts: 82
Joined: Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:07 pm
Has liked: 0 time
Been liked: 0 time
Grassroots Team: Eastern Park

Re: SAAFLDiv C4 2012

Postby Wild Thing » Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:56 pm

Wazz wrote:Terrific hard fought win by Eastern Park over CBC on Saturday, well done to the boys. CBC jumped them early playing some very good footy bit to the lads credit worked their way back into the game. One thing I did notice was that Bolitho played for CBC which is interesting in the fact that he got a permit to play with a 8B & 8C game tally. My understanding of SAAFL rule 34.1(b) is that if the player plays two games on the same day only the higher division match only will be considered. Checking dates he played B's & C's twice on the same day effectively making him a 8B & 6C tally. How did he get a permit plus they certainly aren't short of players as CBC have almost 50 players qualified for C4 finals (on paper anyway). I would think there are quite a few guys who played in their C's this season who might be peeved about missing out.

Good luck to PNU & CBC in the prelim this week.


I understand that Eastern Park were so concerned they actually rang the League during the match :shock: He was issued a permit - end of story.

If you want to talk about rules mate what about SAAFL rule 22.22 - Prior to the commencment of each match of The League an official of each of the competing Member Clubs shall hand to the field umpire(s) and an official of the opposing Member Club a copy of their Team Sheet. We couldn't get a copy of your team sheet until 3/4 time by which time half your blokes played the game in different numbers.
User avatar
Wild Thing
Rookie
 
Posts: 120
Joined: Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:09 pm
Has liked: 0 time
Been liked: 0 time

Re: SAAFLDiv C4 2012

Postby Wild Thing » Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:02 pm

I should clarify - by get a copy I meant a real copy with the correct jumper numbers on it
User avatar
Wild Thing
Rookie
 
Posts: 120
Joined: Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:09 pm
Has liked: 0 time
Been liked: 0 time

Re: SAAFLDiv C4 2012

Postby Wazz » Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:50 am

Wild Thing wrote:I should clarify - by get a copy I meant a real copy with the correct jumper numbers on it


Let me clarify, I wasn't havving a dig at CBC over the permit, I questioned why the league allowed it. Rules are in place for a reason and all clubs are permitted to get clarification. Also complete nonsense about players changing numbers, perhaps as you guys were chasing them after such a good start confused you to who was who.
Wazz
Member
 
 
Posts: 82
Joined: Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:07 pm
Has liked: 0 time
Been liked: 0 time
Grassroots Team: Eastern Park

Re: SAAFLDiv C4 2012

Postby 1 club » Tue Sep 04, 2012 6:31 pm

Wazz wrote:Terrific hard fought win by Eastern Park over CBC on Saturday, well done to the boys. CBC jumped them early playing some very good footy bit to the lads credit worked their way back into the game. One thing I did notice was that Bolitho played for CBC which is interesting in the fact that he got a permit to play with a 8B & 8C game tally. My understanding of SAAFL rule 34.1(b) is that if the player plays two games on the same day only the higher division match only will be considered. Checking dates he played B's & C's twice on the same day effectively making him a 8B & 6C tally. How did he get a permit plus they certainly aren't short of players as CBC have almost 50 players qualified for C4 finals (on paper anyway). I would think there are quite a few guys who played in their C's this season who might be peeved about missing out.

Good luck to PNU & CBC in the prelim this week.

So he played 2 more games up higher?Funny that we had a player play the same 2 games more in bs and we got told he will not be given a permit by the league? :? Maybe its who you play for?
1 club
Rookie
 
 
Posts: 138
Joined: Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:40 am
Has liked: 0 time
Been liked: 0 time

Re: SAAFLDiv C4 2012

Postby Wazz » Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:03 pm

1 club wrote:
Wazz wrote:Terrific hard fought win by Eastern Park over CBC on Saturday, well done to the boys. CBC jumped them early playing some very good footy bit to the lads credit worked their way back into the game. One thing I did notice was that Bolitho played for CBC which is interesting in the fact that he got a permit to play with a 8B & 8C game tally. My understanding of SAAFL rule 34.1(b) is that if the player plays two games on the same day only the higher division match only will be considered. Checking dates he played B's & C's twice on the same day effectively making him a 8B & 6C tally. How did he get a permit plus they certainly aren't short of players as CBC have almost 50 players qualified for C4 finals (on paper anyway). I would think there are quite a few guys who played in their C's this season who might be peeved about missing out.

Good luck to PNU & CBC in the prelim this week.

So he played 2 more games up higher?Funny that we had a player play the same 2 games more in bs and we got told he will not be given a permit by the league? :? Maybe its who you play for?


Perhaps EM may have the answers?
Wazz
Member
 
 
Posts: 82
Joined: Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:07 pm
Has liked: 0 time
Been liked: 0 time
Grassroots Team: Eastern Park

PreviousNext

Board index   Football  Other Footy Leagues  Adelaide Footy League

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Down the Hill and 18 guests

Around the place

Competitions   SANFL Official Site | Country Footy SA | Southern Football League | VFL Footy
Club Forums   Snouts Louts | The Roost | Redlegs Forum |