SAAFL Div 6 & 6R (2010)

[White Line Fever]

What rock have half of you been living under ??? Anyone would think that Harvey has been born and bred at CLG , the bloke was playing A grade footy in the southern league as an 18 year old and being more than servicable. He will be a major contributor in the GSFL and would benefit from being in a stronger competition. anyone would think if he heads there he is jumping into a level of footy equal to the AFL

And i believe an Association player in SFL.
He sure can play.

[Q.]

Yes there are some with potential, like Corb's, some with a bit of talent too, like Harvey. But until I see one of these Div 6 guys win a match and then a premiership off his own boot I'll reserve my genuine adulation for those that deserve it.

Individuals don't win a club a premiership.


While we're talking footy, I hear the pen and the paper have been quite busy down at the Hollow.

[emerson]

I think ur a little off the mark with your comments Darth. I know a guy that played in the Div 6 Grand Final in 1999 and was probably in the best 5 for his club on the day. He won the clubs b/f that year also. He decided to try and improve his footy so he went to a higher club. He went to Scotch OC and played in a Div 2 Preliminary Final. The point being in 2002 he was eighth in the club's b/f after missing 5 games with injury and that club had Kluzek, McCarthy both ex AFL, Rick Champion (not just by name) and some other fine talented footballers. Now this goes to show there are some players playing Div 6 footy that can play a hell of a lot higher but may choose to play there because of mates etc. I have seen Encounter Bay first hand (2009) and trust me, the standard is not as high as you would think. I haven't seen harvey play, I dont even know the lad but there is no reason some blokes in Div 6 could not perform just as well in much higher grades. It's like when A graders get dropped to the B's, sometimes they struggle because the talent around them can bring there own standard down. In regards to the Lockleys boys you mention, Ranks and Simmo, I agree could play alot higher grade but let's not get carried away about some others. There, that ought to get some response....

[CoverKing]

Harvey will 100% play at Encounter Bay. Therefore should not be mentioned in the div 6 thread come seasons start

[One Eyed]

Who is the person your referring to emerson.?

[Darth Demon]

I think ur a little off the mark with your comments Darth. I know a guy that played in the Div 6 Grand Final in 1999 and was probably in the best 5 for his club on the day. There, that ought to get some response....

Ahhh Emerson exactlly my point, let me break it all down for you guys and gals, my points are;

1. SAAFL ain't what it used to be
2. These stars today in Div 6 ain't all that special - all lovelly lads I'm sure but not hero status as depicted by many in this blog - worshipping their every move as if they are an Ablett or Ebert
3. Until you have stuck around at any club at any level and done the real hard yards you will not achieve anything worth raving on about.....and for me that is Premierships, the more the merrier...not how many kicks you got against some mob of battlers or how many you kicked in Round 7
4. Some change their clubs like they change their shirts, chasing an illusive prize that often only comes from sticking with your mates and making something of yourselves as a group. No one player does not win a premiership on his own. But strong/staunch playing groups do and often more than one....

[morell]

I for one think Darth is pretty much on the money.

The standard has dropped significantly since I first started playing (1999). Not necessarily in the top 5 players, but the blokes that are getting a game in the A Grade these days would have been mediocre B Grade players pre 2000. Just a gut feel, I cannot base that on anything other than the fact I am a perfect example. No way I should have played ANY A Grade games last year, I barely trained, did no pre-season, yet was picked each week. When I questioned why I was getting picked the coach implied that the players just weren't there.

The so called stars of Div 6 are usually so far off the mark it isn't funny. Everyone who knows Mitchell Park know the McDonnell brothers. There are very, very good players, in our top 5 or 6, no doubt, however, blokes like Ben Weekley never get a mention, he's a 5 time best and fairest winner. Guys like Adam Hay, who is consistently in the best 2 or 3, also, never gets a mention. My point is don't take what you read on here or who gets named in the paper as the genuine stars of a club. I know for a fact that it is staggeringly inaccurate in MPFC's case.

[Darth Demon]

I for one think Darth is pretty much on the money.

The standard has dropped significantly since I first started playing (1999). Not necessarily in the top 5 players, but the blokes that are getting a game in the A Grade these days would have been mediocre B Grade players pre 2000. Just a gut feel, I cannot base that on anything other than the fact I am a perfect example. No way I should have played ANY A Grade games last year, I barely trained, did no pre-season, yet was picked each week. When I questioned why I was getting picked the coach implied that the players just weren't there.

The so called stars of Div 6 are usually so far off the mark it isn't funny. Everyone who knows Mitchell Park know the McDonnell brothers. There are very, very good players, in our top 5 or 6, no doubt, however, blokes like Ben Weekley never get a mention, he's a 5 time best and fairest winner. Guys like Adam Hay, who is consistently in the best 2 or 3, also, never gets a mention. My point is don't take what you read on here or who gets named in the paper as the genuine stars of a club. I know for a fact that it is staggeringly inaccurate in MPFC's case.

Ahhh reality at last

[mypaddock]

I for one think Darth is pretty much on the money.

The standard has dropped significantly since I first started playing (1999). Not necessarily in the top 5 players, but the blokes that are getting a game in the A Grade these days would have been mediocre B Grade players pre 2000. Just a gut feel, I cannot base that on anything other than the fact I am a perfect example. No way I should have played ANY A Grade games last year, I barely trained, did no pre-season, yet was picked each week. When I questioned why I was getting picked the coach implied that the players just weren't there.

The so called stars of Div 6 are usually so far off the mark it isn't funny. Everyone who knows Mitchell Park know the McDonnell brothers. There are very, very good players, in our top 5 or 6, no doubt, however, blokes like Ben Weekley never get a mention, he's a 5 time best and fairest winner. Guys like Adam Hay, who is consistently in the best 2 or 3, also, never gets a mention. My point is don't take what you read on here or who gets named in the paper as the genuine stars of a club. I know for a fact that it is staggeringly inaccurate in MPFC's case.

Dunno if I agree with your argument re Mcdonnell brothers. People know who the bro's are because they can turn/win a match off their own boot. I've played against MP about 4 or 5 times and couldn't tell you who Weekley or Hay were.

Sort of like comparing Chad Cornes with Kane Cornes. Kane has the B&Fs but Chad doesn't. But I think we all know who we'd rather have in our side in their prime.
At the end of the day it comes down to effective possessions and their influence/impact on a game. No good racking up 30 possessions if you don't use the footy to good effect.

[Darth Demon]

I for one think Darth is pretty much on the money.

At the end of the day it comes down to effective possessions and their influence/impact on a game. No good racking up 30 possessions if you don't use the footy to good effect.

And even more embarrassing if you bring ya mum along each week to count them

Not your team, not even your turnovers just your touches, now that is losing touch with reality.........

[morell]

Dunno if I agree with your argument re Mcdonnell brothers. People know who the bro's are because they can turn/win a match off their own boot. I've played against MP about 4 or 5 times and couldn't tell you who Weekley or Hay were.

I don't for one second claim that Luke and Nat aren't very good players, merely the point that there are a lot of other very good players at Mitchell Park that don't get the recognition that the twins do because of their reputation in the football community.

As an exmaple last year people were saying we were two one-dimensional, always focusing on Luke, completely ignoring the fact Damien Bates had kicked 100 goals the previous year.

Darth was making the point that there are seemingly "stars" of each club that get all the plaudits and accolades, whereas in reality they aren't the stars they are made out to be. Most of the time they are just good club people with a lot of footy talent involved in grassroots footy. Exactly as the twins are. Just part of a bigger system.

[watchdog]

I for one think Darth is pretty much on the money.

At the end of the day it comes down to effective possessions and their influence/impact on a game. No good racking up 30 possessions if you don't use the footy to good effect.

And even more embarrassing if you bring ya mum along each week to count them

Not your team, not even your turnovers just your touches, now that is losing touch with reality.........

Which Lockley's player does that????

[Darth Demon]

I for one think Darth is pretty much on the money.

At the end of the day it comes down to effective possessions and their influence/impact on a game. No good racking up 30 possessions if you don't use the footy to good effect.

And even more embarrassing if you bring ya mum along each week to count them

Not your team, not even your turnovers just your touches, now that is losing touch with reality.........

Which Lockley's player does that????

Not a Lockleys player WD

[finn]

I for one think Darth is pretty much on the money.

The standard has dropped significantly since I first started playing (1999). Not necessarily in the top 5 players, but the blokes that are getting a game in the A Grade these days would have been mediocre B Grade players pre 2000. Just a gut feel, I cannot base that on anything other than the fact I am a perfect example. No way I should have played ANY A Grade games last year, I barely trained, did no pre-season, yet was picked each week. When I questioned why I was getting picked the coach implied that the players just weren't there.

The so called stars of Div 6 are usually so far off the mark it isn't funny. Everyone who knows Mitchell Park know the McDonnell brothers. There are very, very good players, in our top 5 or 6, no doubt, however, blokes like Ben Weekley never get a mention, he's a 5 time best and fairest winner. Guys like Adam Hay, who is consistently in the best 2 or 3, also, never gets a mention. My point is don't take what you read on here or who gets named in the paper as the genuine stars of a club. I know for a fact that it is staggeringly inaccurate in MPFC's case.

weirdly enough, i'd say that the standard of the lower grades has increased dramatically since the early 90's and that the average standard of div 2 is as good as div 1 used to be.

[The Bartman]

I for one think Darth is pretty much on the money.

The standard has dropped significantly since I first started playing (1999). Not necessarily in the top 5 players, but the blokes that are getting a game in the A Grade these days would have been mediocre B Grade players pre 2000. Just a gut feel, I cannot base that on anything other than the fact I am a perfect example. No way I should have played ANY A Grade games last year, I barely trained, did no pre-season, yet was picked each week. When I questioned why I was getting picked the coach implied that the players just weren't there.

The so called stars of Div 6 are usually so far off the mark it isn't funny. Everyone who knows Mitchell Park know the McDonnell brothers. There are very, very good players, in our top 5 or 6, no doubt, however, blokes like Ben Weekley never get a mention, he's a 5 time best and fairest winner. Guys like Adam Hay, who is consistently in the best 2 or 3, also, never gets a mention. My point is don't take what you read on here or who gets named in the paper as the genuine stars of a club. I know for a fact that it is staggeringly inaccurate in MPFC's case.

weirdly enough, i'd say that the standard of the lower grades has increased dramatically since the early 90's and that the average standard of div 2 is as good as div 1 used to be.

I totally agree about the lower grades. I think the standard from 2000 when I played in div 6 GF compared to now is a lot stronger.

[hawkseye]

Cheers Hidden one for the payment. Im sure somewhere down the track there will be a chance for you to win it back.
And a special thanks to the courier The hidden ones identity still remains a mystery.

[zedman]

[catchisthecry]

Zedman I saw one of your recruits Tuesday night. He and a few of his mates have followed your new coach from Onkas to Kenilworth. He has been an A grade footballer in the Hills for a while and should go very well in Div 6! His mates were A grade too I think - handy to pick up a handful of quality players

[Dutchy]

Where are all the Tossers?

[Q.]

weirdly enough, i'd say that the standard of the lower grades has increased dramatically since the early 90's and that the average standard of div 2 is as good as div 1 used to be.

I totally agree about the lower grades. I think the standard from 2000 when I played in div 6 GF compared to now is a lot stronger.

Ask any of the 250+ game stalwarts at HDFC and they will echo both of your sentiments.