SAAFl Div 6 & 6R (2009)

[mypaddock]

Can we please clarify the event for all those who weren't there ie. myself. Was there a king hit at some stage of the game whilst a player wasn't looking??? If so surely there wouldve been a report. Was the young fella hurt in anyway??? Just lots of accusations getting made here

Yeah well the umpires were useless at best, not sure if he got reported. Our player was hit from behind and caused somewhat of a melee.

[EddieV]

Can we please clarify the event for all those who weren't there ie. myself. Was there a king hit at some stage of the game whilst a player wasn't looking??? If so surely there wouldve been a report. Was the young fella hurt in anyway??? Just lots of accusations getting made here

There was only one report from the game and that was on S Brown for striking. The umpire didnt see the incident but HEARD it......so needless to say i dont think Mr Brown has much to worry about on Wednesday.

If what Walton did was a king hit then i want to know what is above king hit because i have had worse done to me on plenty of occasions. Its not netball or soccer plain and simple.

[book worm]

There was about 5 or 6 send offs in the Lockleys v Trinity game as well as alot of 25 metres. Looks like umps are cracking down a fair bit

[boozehound]

Wasn't at the game so can't comment on this particular incident. However......I am sure most have been around footy long enough to know that Walts would have copped his fair share after kicking 14 last week, a fair bit of niggling, scragging, trash talking and sometimes that leads to things getting "heated"....thats not to say i condone someone getting hit from behind.

Now was this young man knocked out? Hospitalised? Because if the incident is as described a "king hit from behind" I am sure.....nay certain, that there would have been some injuries. No matter how big or small someone is, a king hit from behind will do some damage. Are we exaggeratting perhaps?

[mypaddock]

Mypaddock, I'd be very careful in throwing around rumours as to why Payney left EP.

I can also assure you it had nothing to do with him being a thug.

After just speaking to two people who were at the game, from both sides, it seems there was no thug-type behaviour from Carey Payne, after all, he is the coach and he realises he needs to lead by example.

Walton was very undisciplined and as a result, was benched for it. But to say this is why ep got rid of Payne and those that followed him is not correct nor warranted.

I'm sure the BL boys can give a better insight of yesterday incidents though.

As for no-one respecting BL, it's hard not to take your hat off to a club that managed to stay in div 6 by default and has been proactive in recruiting quality players to ensure it doesn't happen again. Their reward so far is a spot on top of the table.

Yeah cause you know everything FC. Get off your high horse.

[EddieV]

Wasn't at the game so can't comment on this particular incident. However......I am sure most have been around footy long enough to know that Walts would have copped his fair share after kicking 14 last week, a fair bit of niggling, scragging, trash talking and sometimes that leads to things getting "heated"....thats not to say i condone someone getting hit from behind.

Now was this young man knocked out? Hospitalised? Because if the incident is as described a "king hit from behind" I am sure.....nay certain, that there would have been some injuries. No matter how big or small someone is, a king hit from behind will do some damage. Are we exaggeratting perhaps?

From what i understand he wasnt really injured at all and played the rest of the game but i could be wrong?

[mypaddock]

Can we please clarify the event for all those who weren't there ie. myself. Was there a king hit at some stage of the game whilst a player wasn't looking??? If so surely there wouldve been a report. Was the young fella hurt in anyway??? Just lots of accusations getting made here

There was only one report from the game and that was on S Brown for striking. The umpire didnt see the incident but HEARD it......so needless to say i dont think Mr Brown has much to worry about on Wednesday.

If what Walton did was a king hit then i want to know what is above king hit because i have had worse done to me on plenty of occasions. Its not netball or soccer plain and simple.

Agree. Brown's definitely wasn't worthy of a report.

[EddieV]

Can we please clarify the event for all those who weren't there ie. myself. Was there a king hit at some stage of the game whilst a player wasn't looking??? If so surely there wouldve been a report. Was the young fella hurt in anyway??? Just lots of accusations getting made here

There was only one report from the game and that was on S Brown for striking. The umpire didnt see the incident but HEARD it......so needless to say i dont think Mr Brown has much to worry about on Wednesday.

If what Walton did was a king hit then i want to know what is above king hit because i have had worse done to me on plenty of occasions. Its not netball or soccer plain and simple.

Agree. Brown's definitely wasn't worthy of a report.

It was a joke to say the least..how can you hear something and send someone off with a Red card..i mean if its a certain thing and someone has done something thugish fair enough...this left BL 1 player down for the last 10 minutes of the third quarter and Brown out for the remainder of the game which is when Heccies got a nice little run on and kicked a few with the wind. This could have been an action by the umpire that directly changed the outcome of the game.

[Iwasthere84]

Can we please clarify the event for all those who weren't there ie. myself. Was there a king hit at some stage of the game whilst a player wasn't looking??? If so surely there wouldve been a report. Was the young fella hurt in anyway??? Just lots of accusations getting made here

There was only one report from the game and that was on S Brown for striking. The umpire didnt see the incident but HEARD it......so needless to say i dont think Mr Brown has much to worry about on Wednesday.

If what Walton did was a king hit then i want to know what is above king hit because i have had worse done to me on plenty of occasions. Its not netball or soccer plain and simple.

Agree. Brown's definitely wasn't worthy of a report.

The big problem the SAAFL has atm is there is only 60% of umpires coming to training to increase their fitness and knowledge. The rest make themselves available, so naturally they will do the lower grades. Do we make these guys unavailable and have club umpires doing Div 6 and possibly Div 5 games. The clubs are getting better and better at what they do, in these grades but the umpiring standard is not. Who at YOUR club will be good enough to umpire the A grade???

[mypaddock]

Wasn't at the game so can't comment on this particular incident. However......I am sure most have been around footy long enough to know that Walts would have copped his fair share after kicking 14 last week, a fair bit of niggling, scragging, trash talking and sometimes that leads to things getting "heated"....thats not to say i condone someone getting hit from behind.

Now was this young man knocked out? Hospitalised? Because if the incident is as described a "king hit from behind" I am sure.....nay certain, that there would have been some injuries. No matter how big or small someone is, a king hit from behind will do some damage. Are we exaggeratting perhaps?

From what i understand he wasnt really injured at all and played the rest of the game but i could be wrong?

Yes, played the rest of the game. OK it was more of a hit than a "king hit" either way what he did was weak and has no place in a game of football.

That was the point I was trying to get across- people of his ilk are pests and just cause unwanted problems which shouldn't be a part of football.

I don't think anyone can argue with the above.

[zedman]

For mine CLG are the benchmark.

i think i said that 4 weeks ago!

when do clg play bl ?

[Footy Chick]

Mypaddock, I'd be very careful in throwing around rumours as to why Payney left EP.

I can also assure you it had nothing to do with him being a thug.

After just speaking to two people who were at the game, from both sides, it seems there was no thug-type behaviour from Carey Payne, after all, he is the coach and he realises he needs to lead by example.

Walton was very undisciplined and as a result, was benched for it. But to say this is why ep got rid of Payne and those that followed him is not correct nor warranted.

I'm sure the BL boys can give a better insight of yesterday incidents though.

As for no-one respecting BL, it's hard not to take your hat off to a club that managed to stay in div 6 by default and has been proactive in recruiting quality players to ensure it doesn't happen again. Their reward so far is a spot on top of the table.

Yeah cause you know everything FC. Get off your high horse.

Never claimed to know everything, but in this case I (and others) know a damned sight more than you.

and Im definitely not on any high horse. I don't like horses

[boozehound]

Speaking to a few blokes at the game apparently your mob weren't exactly beacons on morality on the field either. No cheap/late shots from your blokes either?

[aceman]

Can we please clarify the event for all those who weren't there ie. myself. Was there a king hit at some stage of the game whilst a player wasn't looking??? If so surely there wouldve been a report. Was the young fella hurt in anyway??? Just lots of accusations getting made here

There was only one report from the game and that was on S Brown for striking. The umpire didnt see the incident but HEARD it......so needless to say i dont think Mr Brown has much to worry about on Wednesday.

If what Walton did was a king hit then i want to know what is above king hit because i have had worse done to me on plenty of occasions. Its not netball or soccer plain and simple.

Agree. Brown's definitely wasn't worthy of a report.

The big problem the SAAFL has atm is there is only 60% of umpires coming to training to increase their fitness and knowledge. The rest make themselves available, so naturally they will do the lower grades. Do we make these guys unavailable and have club umpires doing Div 6 and possibly Div 5 games. The clubs are getting better and better at what they do, in these grades but the umpiring standard is not. Who at YOUR club will be good enough to umpire the A grade???

Massive problem with umps in all grades, the standard has diminished dramatically over the past 2-3 years. There are guys umpiring in divisions well beyond their capabilities, guys doing Div 1 who probably would make the same mistakes in Div 5.
Been watching too much TV.

[mypaddock]

Can we please clarify the event for all those who weren't there ie. myself. Was there a king hit at some stage of the game whilst a player wasn't looking??? If so surely there wouldve been a report. Was the young fella hurt in anyway??? Just lots of accusations getting made here

There was only one report from the game and that was on S Brown for striking. The umpire didnt see the incident but HEARD it......so needless to say i dont think Mr Brown has much to worry about on Wednesday.

If what Walton did was a king hit then i want to know what is above king hit because i have had worse done to me on plenty of occasions. Its not netball or soccer plain and simple.

Agree. Brown's definitely wasn't worthy of a report.

The big problem the SAAFL has atm is there is only 60% of umpires coming to training to increase their fitness and knowledge. The rest make themselves available, so naturally they will do the lower grades. Do we make these guys unavailable and have club umpires doing Div 6 and possibly Div 5 games. The clubs are getting better and better at what they do, in these grades but the umpiring standard is not. Who at YOUR club will be good enough to umpire the A grade???

I agree, club umpires are sometimes biased but at least they are consistant and arent out there to be noticed. We already have club reps goal umpiring so why not just have all club reps.

[boozehound]

Mypaddock, I'd be very careful in throwing around rumours as to why Payney left EP.

I can also assure you it had nothing to do with him being a thug.

After just speaking to two people who were at the game, from both sides, it seems there was no thug-type behaviour from Carey Payne, after all, he is the coach and he realises he needs to lead by example.

Walton was very undisciplined and as a result, was benched for it. But to say this is why ep got rid of Payne and those that followed him is not correct nor warranted.

I'm sure the BL boys can give a better insight of yesterday incidents though.

As for no-one respecting BL, it's hard not to take your hat off to a club that managed to stay in div 6 by default and has been proactive in recruiting quality players to ensure it doesn't happen again. Their reward so far is a spot on top of the table.

Yeah cause you know everything FC. Get off your high horse.

Never claimed to know everything, but in this case I (and others) know a damned sight more than you.

and Im definitely not on any high horse. I don't like horses

Yeah, so why the long face....?

[Iwasthere84]

Wasn't at the game so can't comment on this particular incident. However......I am sure most have been around footy long enough to know that Walts would have copped his fair share after kicking 14 last week, a fair bit of niggling, scragging, trash talking and sometimes that leads to things getting "heated"....thats not to say i condone someone getting hit from behind.

Now was this young man knocked out? Hospitalised? Because if the incident is as described a "king hit from behind" I am sure.....nay certain, that there would have been some injuries. No matter how big or small someone is, a king hit from behind will do some damage. Are we exaggeratting perhaps?

From what i understand he wasnt really injured at all and played the rest of the game but i could be wrong?

Yes, played the rest of the game. OK it was more of a hit than a "king hit" either way what he did was weak and has no place in a game of football.

That was the point I was trying to get across- people of his ilk are pests and just cause unwanted problems which shouldn't be a part of football.

I don't think anyone can argue with the above.

Hounds changing their name to Saints...Every club has players that step outside the rules...Heccis NO different, pull your head in quickly Mypaddock or it will end up getting knocked off by a "king hit"

[EddieV]

I believe both Heccies and BL have requested in writing in the past that we dont have one of the umpires from yesterday but what can the league down when they dont have any other options?

[mypaddock]

I believe both Heccies and BL have requested in writing in the past that we dont have one of the umpires from yesterday but what can the league down when they dont have any other options?

I'm pretty sure we reqeusted not to have that umpire on numerous occasions but due to the lack of umpires to choose from we still get him 3-4times a yr and every time he ruins the game and it turns into a joke.

[zedman]

we had a 60 y/o and an orange dwarf yesterday and just so bad..

the umpiring stocks are at an absolute crisis point..coaches and players do so much preparation for a staurday and then have the whole event bastardised by 2 fools in orange