SAAFL Div 1 & 1R (2010)

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Who will win the 2010 Flag

Broadview
9
4%
Gaza
4
2%
Gepps Cross
16
7%
Goodwood Saints
74
34%
Henley
66
30%
Payneham-Norwood Union
8
4%
Port Districts
11
5%
Salisbury North
13
6%
SHOC
7
3%
Tea Tree Gully
12
5%
 
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & 1R (2010)

Postby aceman » Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:06 pm

Wont somebody think of the Points :lol: Alot of clubs that have done some recruiting may need to have a re think![/quote]


FS, do you know something about this APPS we don't? ;) Or can't you say? :lol:[/quote]


Why worry about points when the clubs rejected the idea last year and will only trial it for 3 years. Thats my understanding of it and although we all have to meet in november with the CFB, there would not be a club other than a handful (10 maybe) who would seriously even think of adopting it surely. Wont even get through so would not be worrying about points to much[/quote]





Don't go putting too much of your hard earned on that, I reckon with what I'm hearing either it will or blood will be spilt. The word is the numbers are already there according to the Chinese whispers.
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & 1R (2010)

Postby The Big T » Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:22 pm

Heard on the 5aa sports show the other night that the Mcgowan boys could be heading to Salis Nth next season
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & 1R (2010)

Postby is it alice » Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:59 pm

aceman wrote:Wont somebody think of the Points :lol: Alot of clubs that have done some recruiting may need to have a re think!



FS, do you know something about this APPS we don't? ;) Or can't you say? :lol:[/quote]


Why worry about points when the clubs rejected the idea last year and will only trial it for 3 years. Thats my understanding of it and although we all have to meet in november with the CFB, there would not be a club other than a handful (10 maybe) who would seriously even think of adopting it surely. Wont even get through so would not be worrying about points to much[/quote]





Don't go putting too much of your hard earned on that, I reckon with what I'm hearing either it will or blood will be spilt. The word is the numbers are already there according to the Chinese whispers.[/quote]

Spill the blood then as there are a whole heep of clubs ours included who wont vote for it. If you are in D4 or D5 or D6 you are basically stuffed under this system. OK for some D1 clubs but not us lower ones who cant recruit anyone by the sounds if this comes in, unless they cant play. More bullshit for lower clubs to put up with
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & 1R (2010)

Postby daysofourlives » Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:30 pm

is it alice wrote:
aceman wrote:Wont somebody think of the Points :lol: Alot of clubs that have done some recruiting may need to have a re think!



FS, do you know something about this APPS we don't? ;) Or can't you say? :lol:


Why worry about points when the clubs rejected the idea last year and will only trial it for 3 years. Thats my understanding of it and although we all have to meet in november with the CFB, there would not be a club other than a handful (10 maybe) who would seriously even think of adopting it surely. Wont even get through so would not be worrying about points to much






Don't go putting too much of your hard earned on that, I reckon with what I'm hearing either it will or blood will be spilt. The word is the numbers are already there according to the Chinese whispers.[/quote]

[b]Spill the blood then as there are a whole heep of clubs ours included who wont vote for it. If you are in D4 or D5 or D6 you are basically stuffed under this system. OK for some D1 clubs but not us lower ones who cant recruit anyone by the sounds if this comes in, unless they cant play. More bullshit for lower clubs to put up with
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But on the other hand mate it will be harder for clubs to poach your homegrown talent
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & 1R (2010)

Postby old moz » Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:46 pm

might stop players with over-inflated opinions of their ability selling themselves to clubs just so they can "play with their mates"
and will make clubs start to think how to spend money [ which is very hard earned ] and not just throw it around
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & 1R (2010)

Postby carey » Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:50 pm

The Big T wrote:Heard on the 5aa sports show the other night that the Mcgowan boys could be heading to Salis Nth next season


thats come up the last 3 years wont happen this season they'll be dogs again for 2011 the at the hawks in 2012
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & 1R (2010)

Postby is it alice » Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:18 pm

old moz wrote:might stop players with over-inflated opinions of their ability selling themselves to clubs just so they can "play with their mates"
and will make clubs start to think how to spend money [ which is very hard earned ] and not just throw it around



Great for you clubs in D1 now agreed, but not much chop for us in the lower grades. You have to spend a few bucks just to get ahead and try to get that really good player to your club. Lets face it we all do it. Think that is will be a huge disadvantage to all clubs not already set up. As a youngish Club in a lower grade, you are essentially stuffed from progression or at least put 5-10 years behind those already in D1. Perhaps thats what a few of the higher clubs and the League executive actually want. Personally I think the lower clubs will suffer badly from any such poor decision by the CFB, who obviously have a big agenda to make it work for them :oops: and this decision will be made for them and not anyone else. Another case of big brother telling us what we will be doing i fear unless clubs have the guts to tell them again to shove it where the sun dont shine, as we will
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & 1R (2010)

Postby aceman » Fri Oct 15, 2010 8:07 am

old moz wrote:might stop players with over-inflated opinions of their ability selling themselves to clubs just so they can "play with their mates"
and will make clubs start to think how to spend money [ which is very hard earned ] and not just throw it around




Moz, you're kidding yourself there with the 'opinions' bit! The day that practice stops the sun will rise in the West & set in the East and the government will stop collecting taxes too!
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & 1R (2010)

Postby aceman » Fri Oct 15, 2010 8:09 am

is it alice wrote:
old moz wrote:might stop players with over-inflated opinions of their ability selling themselves to clubs just so they can "play with their mates"
and will make clubs start to think how to spend money [ which is very hard earned ] and not just throw it around



Great for you clubs in D1 now agreed, but not much chop for us in the lower grades. You have to spend a few bucks just to get ahead and try to get that really good player to your club. Lets face it we all do it. Think that is will be a huge disadvantage to all clubs not already set up. As a youngish Club in a lower grade, you are essentially stuffed from progression or at least put 5-10 years behind those already in D1. Perhaps thats what a few of the higher clubs wantb] Personally I think the lower clubs will suffer badly from any such poor decision by the CFB, who obviously have a big agenda to make it work for them :oops: and this decision will be made for them and not anyone else. Another case of big brother telling us what we will be doing i fear unless clubs have the guts to tell them again to shove it where the sun dont shine, as we will



You are only guessing with that bit Alice!
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & 1R (2010)

Postby Footy Smart » Fri Oct 15, 2010 8:31 am

actually it hampers div 1/2/3 clubs, some have poor B grades and rely heavily on recruits to stay at the grade. The points system will make it easier for lower clubs to keep their home grown talent and make the comps much more even. Remember each club would have the same points to fit recruits in they will just have to be careful of how you use those points.
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & 1R (2010)

Postby Iron Fist » Fri Oct 15, 2010 8:36 am

Footy Smart wrote:actually it hampers div 1/2/3 clubs, some have poor B grades and rely heavily on recruits to stay at the grade. The points system will make it easier for lower clubs to keep their home grown talent and make the comps much more even. Remember each club would have the same points to fit recruits in they will just have to be careful of how you use those points.


The higher clubs could recruit and play the bloke in the B grade which wouldnt effect the points, then next season he would drop in points and probs have himself a medal or 2.
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & 1R (2010)

Postby Footy Smart » Fri Oct 15, 2010 8:44 am

Iron Fist wrote:
Footy Smart wrote:actually it hampers div 1/2/3 clubs, some have poor B grades and rely heavily on recruits to stay at the grade. The points system will make it easier for lower clubs to keep their home grown talent and make the comps much more even. Remember each club would have the same points to fit recruits in they will just have to be careful of how you use those points.


The higher clubs could recruit and play the bloke in the B grade which wouldnt effect the points, then next season he would drop in points and probs have himself a medal or 2.



What bloke worth his weight or with a spine would play B grade for a year? cmon mate :lol:
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & 1R (2010)

Postby barbs » Fri Oct 15, 2010 8:46 am

Iron Fist wrote:
Footy Smart wrote:actually it hampers div 1/2/3 clubs, some have poor B grades and rely heavily on recruits to stay at the grade. The points system will make it easier for lower clubs to keep their home grown talent and make the comps much more even. Remember each club would have the same points to fit recruits in they will just have to be careful of how you use those points.


The higher clubs could recruit and play the bloke in the B grade which wouldnt effect the points, then next season he would drop in points and probs have himself a medal or 2.



If the blokes any good he won't be happy hanging around playing B grade for no money for a year and I doubt to many clubs are financial enough to pay B graders.

I see FS is has beaten me to it.
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & 1R (2010)

Postby Footy Smart » Fri Oct 15, 2010 8:50 am

barbs wrote:
Iron Fist wrote:
Footy Smart wrote:actually it hampers div 1/2/3 clubs, some have poor B grades and rely heavily on recruits to stay at the grade. The points system will make it easier for lower clubs to keep their home grown talent and make the comps much more even. Remember each club would have the same points to fit recruits in they will just have to be careful of how you use those points.


The higher clubs could recruit and play the bloke in the B grade which wouldnt effect the points, then next season he would drop in points and probs have himself a medal or 2.



If the blokes any good he won't be happy hanging around playing B grade for no money for a year and I doubt to many clubs are financial enough to pay B graders.

I see FS is has beaten me to it.


Its all good barbs atleast someone is on the same wave length as me :lol:
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & 1R (2010)

Postby Iron Fist » Fri Oct 15, 2010 9:16 am

Footy Smart wrote:
Iron Fist wrote:
Footy Smart wrote:actually it hampers div 1/2/3 clubs, some have poor B grades and rely heavily on recruits to stay at the grade. The points system will make it easier for lower clubs to keep their home grown talent and make the comps much more even. Remember each club would have the same points to fit recruits in they will just have to be careful of how you use those points.


The higher clubs could recruit and play the bloke in the B grade which wouldnt effect the points, then next season he would drop in points and probs have himself a medal or 2.



What bloke worth his weight or with a spine would play B grade for a year? cmon mate :lol:


I wouldnt and either would the majority of players, But Im sure there are some spineless money hungry blokes that would do something like that. Wouldnt be for free Im sure though.
I think there would be a few clubs in the higher grades that could afford to do that!
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & 1R (2010)

Postby Jimmy_041 » Fri Oct 15, 2010 11:41 am

Why does it favour the higher grade clubs?

If anything, clubs like Golden Grove must be salivating over it, whilst any club without a junior setup will be disadvantaged. However, in saying that, it doesn't stop those clubs setting up a good junior recruiting network and pinching other clubs' juniors once they look for a senior club. The junior would be zero points for any club.

The SAAFL are proposing a limit of 1 point for transfers within our league - you could go and sign Henley's best 15 players for your 15 points. One problem with the system - the Fev could play with you for 5 points in 2011 and reduce to 4 points in 2012, but he's only 1 point for any other SAAFL club if they pinched him

As for Nelson and Weatherald

Nelson to Scotch - I'm not sure how he ever got linked to us - he's a Scotch OC
Weatherald to coach PAC 1st 18 as the current coach; Gary Jenkinson is overseas in 2011
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & 1R (2010)

Postby bandar » Fri Oct 15, 2010 11:50 am

Jimmy_041 wrote:Why does it favour the higher grade clubs?

If anything, clubs like Golden Grove must be salivating over it, whilst any club without a junior setup will be disadvantaged. However, in saying that, it doesn't stop those clubs setting up a good junior recruiting network and pinching other clubs' juniors once they look for a senior club. The junior would be zero points for any club.

The SAAFL are proposing a limit of 1 point for transfers within our league - you could go and sign Henley's best 15 players for your 15 points. One problem with the system - the Fev could play with you for 5 points in 2011 and reduce to 4 points in 2012, but he's only 1 point for any other SAAFL club if they pinched him

As for Nelson and Weatherald

Nelson to Scotch - I'm not sure how he ever got linked to us - he's a Scotch OC
Weatherald to coach PAC 1st 18 as the current coach; Gary Jenkinson is overseas in 2011



Any chance of some guest appearances Jimmy?
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & 1R (2010)

Postby Jimmy_041 » Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:44 pm

Which guests? Weatherald or The Fev?

Coach of the PAC 1st 18 is a pretty full on job these days. They start pre-season in February/March and I dont think D2 is conducive to guest appearances.

I actually doubt that Roo will play next year which will free up a point for us - we can go after Floyd............ ;)
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & 1R (2010)

Postby bandar » Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:40 pm

Thought you might get a couple out of him in the holidays but your right settled side would be the way to go.

Looks like I might need to study your list for a replacement for Floyd ..............:)
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Re: SAAFL Div 1 & 1R (2010)

Postby zedman » Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:46 pm

Jimmy_041 wrote:Why does it favour the higher grade clubs?

If anything, clubs like Golden Grove must be salivating over it, whilst any club without a junior setup will be disadvantaged. However, in saying that, it doesn't stop those clubs setting up a good junior recruiting network and pinching other clubs' juniors once they look for a senior club. The junior would be zero points for any club.

The SAAFL are proposing a limit of 1 point for transfers within our league - you could go and sign Henley's best 15 players for your 15 points. One problem with the system - the Fev could play with you for 5 points in 2011 and reduce to 4 points in 2012, but he's only 1 point for any other SAAFL club if they pinched him

As for Nelson and Weatherald

Nelson to Scotch - I'm not sure how he ever got linked to us - he's a Scotch OCWeatherald to coach PAC 1st 18 as the current coach; Gary Jenkinson is overseas in 2011


spot on..and i would see tim playing for PAOCFC or bridgewater before henley..
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