SAAFL Div C6 (2011)

[Choccies]

Sacred Heart boys there is nothing worse than having you spirits broken in one game of football. That is what happened to you last friday...you got challenged and well the result speaks for itself. Blame the umpire, blame the quality of players in our team but at the end of the day you crumbled under pressure and you could see the difference in SHOC from the first to last quarter. Those downhill skiers seemed to be gone by the end of the game and the kick and hope tactic seemed to be the only option.

Says the guy who is 20 and refuses to play higher than D grade and make 2 guys that are 43 and 39 play C's instead of him cos he can sniff a flag.....

[The Informer]

Sacred Heart boys there is nothing worse than having you spirits broken in one game of football. That is what happened to you last friday...you got challenged and well the result speaks for itself. Blame the umpire, blame the quality of players in our team but at the end of the day you crumbled under pressure and you could see the difference in SHOC from the first to last quarter. Those downhill skiers seemed to be gone by the end of the game and the kick and hope tactic seemed to be the only option.

Says the guy who is 20 and refuses to play higher than D grade and make 2 guys that are 43 and 39 play C's instead of him cos he can sniff a flag.....

Not having a go at your club Choccies, but how can you let guys dictate to you where they play? Especially if they are as young as 20? Not a good thing to have around a club. If you have enough players for 4 teams i would be telling those type of guys to move on myself.

[Choccies]

Sacred Heart boys there is nothing worse than having you spirits broken in one game of football. That is what happened to you last friday...you got challenged and well the result speaks for itself. Blame the umpire, blame the quality of players in our team but at the end of the day you crumbled under pressure and you could see the difference in SHOC from the first to last quarter. Those downhill skiers seemed to be gone by the end of the game and the kick and hope tactic seemed to be the only option.

Says the guy who is 20 and refuses to play higher than D grade and make 2 guys that are 43 and 39 play C's instead of him cos he can sniff a flag.....

Not having a go at your club Choccies, but how can you let guys dictate to you where they play? Especially if they are as young as 20? Not a good thing to have around a club. If you have enough players for 4 teams i would be telling those type of guys to move on myself.

Nup I agree with you 110% Informer and it's not a good thing. My opinion is he should be told to play C's or not play at all.

[The Informer]

Sacred Heart boys there is nothing worse than having you spirits broken in one game of football. That is what happened to you last friday...you got challenged and well the result speaks for itself. Blame the umpire, blame the quality of players in our team but at the end of the day you crumbled under pressure and you could see the difference in SHOC from the first to last quarter. Those downhill skiers seemed to be gone by the end of the game and the kick and hope tactic seemed to be the only option.

Says the guy who is 20 and refuses to play higher than D grade and make 2 guys that are 43 and 39 play C's instead of him cos he can sniff a flag.....

Not having a go at your club Choccies, but how can you let guys dictate to you where they play? Especially if they are as young as 20? Not a good thing to have around a club. If you have enough players for 4 teams i would be telling those type of guys to move on myself.

Nup I agree with you 110% Informer and it's not a good thing. My opinion is he should be told to play C's or not play at all.

I think that any club that wants to move forward would have those beliefs. Not carry sandbagging, glory seekers, who dictate where they play. Those types of guys should be told to move on.

[bar20]

Is that 'Bear' Grantham playing for GG's C6 side? That guy won them a Div 5 flag a few years back. Too good for that grade

[TEX07]

Is that 'Bear' Grantham playing for GG's C6 side? That guy won them a Div 5 flag a few years back. Too good for that grade

what kind of like Sudjai Cook playing in your C grade?

[finn]

I'm going to interject here. Clubs with multiple teams often have a deeper pool of mid range players to choose from meaning that players who potentially are able to play c grade end up in lower grades as the amount of players to choose is large. A larger pool of players means that there's generally one or two out and out players who are playing lower because they're older or can't train.

Coming from uni where we have seven sides - this only works if coaches are able to have a core of players in their side who they can rely upon to form the basis of a team. Sometimes thése players will be better than the grade they are playing in but because of work, age etc there is no benefit to the club to have them play higher.

The side I coach this year has two players who played country a grade but because they can't train we don't consider them for higher grades as we want to reward those who have done a pre-season in order for them to return the following year. Flinders, the Grovers, PAOC and SHOC have done the hard yards in increasing the nuimber of sides in their club; they can't be faulted just because there's a wider and larger spread of talent available to all their sides. I know (we at the blacks) after seven sides still have about thirty left over after injuries etc in higher grades and we're certainly looking at going back to eight next year.

The other thing is that the majority of saafl lower grade players pay to play and should we realistically expect them to play where they don not want to especially if they've come out to play with mates?

[The Informer]

Footy_Rulz can you please explain this to me.
How,at 20 years of age u can refuse to play any higher than D grade. While your teamates above you struggle you are happy to sandbag in the D grade and won't play higher. What does this install in others around you. Also can you tell me if your club picks its A grade then B grade then C grade then Ds, or do u pick As then Bs then Ds then the C grade last?
I think it is time someone in the footy department stopped this .

[Footy_Rulz]

Footy_Rulz can you please explain this to me.
How,at 20 years of age u can refuse to play any higher than D grade. While your teamates above you struggle you are happy to sandbag in the D grade and won't play higher. What does this install in others around you. Also can you tell me if your club picks its A grade then B grade then C grade then Ds, or do u pick As then Bs then Ds then the C grade last?
I think it is time someone in the footy department stopped this .

There is a lot of contributing factors but quiet simply I asked to play D-Grade because I really enjoy playing with the friends that I have made in the D-Grade over the past 3 years. The C-Grade coach had no issues with me playing D-Grade and on a number of occasions at selection when the Cs/Ds were short my name has been put his way yet he refuses to pick me. Also going on the past 3 weeks my form has barely warranted selection in the D-Grade let alone the C-Grade, age has nothing to do with it. At the end of the day my spot in the C-Grade has been taken by someone who wants to play higher and progress.

[Footy_Rulz]

Also I can say for the first time today that our umpire was over the top with sending off 2 players (both yellows) for arguing in the first quarter. Not sure what was said but the second guy sent off barely said anything at all, however he should not have punched the sign next to the interchange because he will now miss games because of his broken hand

[TEX07]

PAC are another side we are fearful of

Why?

Because they have also been winning majority of thier games, why not be fearful?
We also are not as strong as we have been in previous weeks tomorrow.

Surely you understand that there are games that you can go into not being as confident as others?

Mindful of a game where you are going in underdone is one thing, but scared of a bunch of outside front runners who got smashed by SHOC? Please.
Been wet all week, playing on the bog that is GGFC, PAOC will go missing.
No way the home side doesn't win this by half time.

Nice assesment there trader! I was surprised with how poorly PAC played on Saturday. From what I was told by one of their players they have been hit fairly hard up in the three higher grades and they ended up with no bench after about quarter time. Didnt help the lad getting sent off and punching a sign breaking his hand. I might add I would have been pretty mad myself if I had been sent off like he was, there was nothing in it, in my opinion not even worthy of a free. I think that PAC should get better and be better the next time we play them, I was told this happened first game last year to and then the second time around was closer again.

[The Cows]

Is that 'Bear' Grantham playing for GG's C6 side? That guy won them a Div 5 flag a few years back. Too good for that grade

what kind of like Sudjai Cook playing in your C grade?

But I don't see our B or A grade struggling at the moment? Why play him and not our younger fella's. If he was running around in the D grade that would be wrong.

[Choccies]

Is that 'Bear' Grantham playing for GG's C6 side? That guy won them a Div 5 flag a few years back. Too good for that grade

what kind of like Sudjai Cook playing in your C grade?

But I don't see our B or A grade struggling at the moment? Why play him and not our younger fella's. If he was running around in the D grade that would be wrong.

Worry about your own club champ. B's aren't struggling, C's aren't struggling. D's aren't struggling. Just the A's. Not sure what the D grade can do about the A's struggling ??

[The Cows]

Is that 'Bear' Grantham playing for GG's C6 side? That guy won them a Div 5 flag a few years back. Too good for that grade

what kind of like Sudjai Cook playing in your C grade?

But I don't see our B or A grade struggling at the moment? Why play him and not our younger fella's. If he was running around in the D grade that would be wrong.

Worry about your own club champ. B's aren't struggling, C's aren't struggling. D's aren't struggling. Just the A's. Not sure what the D grade can do about the A's struggling ??

WOW you guys are touchy about this. look at the post CHAMP i was responding to a post about Cooky playing C grade. Didn't even mention your club.

[Pag]

Does anyone know how it's going to work with SMOSH and Salisbury having played oen less game than other teams after SHOC came in? Considering both teams are 6th and 7th and may push for finals, it might be a bit embarrassing for the league if a team misses out having played less games than other sides through no fault of their own?

[TEX07]

Is that 'Bear' Grantham playing for GG's C6 side? That guy won them a Div 5 flag a few years back. Too good for that grade

what kind of like Sudjai Cook playing in your C grade?

But I don't see our B or A grade struggling at the moment? Why play him and not our younger fella's. If he was running around in the D grade that would be wrong.

Not touchy just stating a fact that your C grade is also full of decent players that probably could still play higher. All for the fact that you say that the club looks at younger guys to play up levels. I personally have no problem with it I was pointing out that you too have players playing lower than they could. Big deal in the end. As Choccies said there is nothing us guys in the D grade can do about the A grade. If you actually saw bear move around you would realise that the big fella is probably actually playing at his level, he doesnt get out of the goal square. Any decent defender in the higher grades he would struggle against even at his size. As choccies also said the rest of the grades are still deffinately in the finals race, the B grade are always around the mark and in my opinion will be there, the C grade have won the last 2 games and are in the 5 and should have more wins than losses in the back half.

[TEX07]

Does anyone know how it's going to work with SMOSH and Salisbury having played oen less game than other teams after SHOC came in? Considering both teams are 6th and 7th and may push for finals, it might be a bit embarrassing for the league if a team misses out having played less games than other sides through no fault of their own?

Would have thought they both would need to be given the win as a forfiet wouldnt you? has anyone from your club called and asked Pag?

[double-blue]

Does anyone know how it's going to work with SMOSH and Salisbury having played oen less game than other teams after SHOC came in? Considering both teams are 6th and 7th and may push for finals, it might be a bit embarrassing for the league if a team misses out having played less games than other sides through no fault of their own?

I would think the fairest way to go about is to have two simultaneous ladders. One being the current one done on points and the other being a winning percentage ladder. If it works out SMOSH or Salisbury would have made the finals under the percentage ladder it would be done via that. If not it would revert to the current one.

For reference here would be the current standings under the winning percentage

GG (100%)
Flinders Park (87.5%)
SHOC (66.67%)
PAC (62.5%)
Mawson Lakes (50%)
SMOSH (42.85%)
Salisbury (42.85%)

Under this SMOSH and Salisbury would not be in the top 5 so it would revert to the points.

[Pag]

Does anyone know how it's going to work with SMOSH and Salisbury having played oen less game than other teams after SHOC came in? Considering both teams are 6th and 7th and may push for finals, it might be a bit embarrassing for the league if a team misses out having played less games than other sides through no fault of their own?

Would have thought they both would need to be given the win as a forfiet wouldnt you? has anyone from your club called and asked Pag?

Not sure whether its been followed up yet mate, but I'm sure it will be.

[The Cows]

Hey guys if you look at my previous posts i don't care who you guys have playing in your D grade side. I don't know "Bear" didn't make any comment about him. I just was trying to point out that we pick our A's first B's second and so on. You asked about Cooky playing C grade and i answered the question. At no time did i mention your club and who plays where. Yes, we do have some very good C grade players and if we had two B grade sides they would play there. We don't so they have to wait for their turn. We have some very good young D grade players too and they are pushing to play C grade. I would think we have covered all this cr#p about your D grade side so lets carry on talking about the real issue........ Football!!!!