Time to prove a point.

[Footy Chick]

Am I the only person who couldn't give a toss either way? Does it really matter? At the end of the day you only have to beat the other teams in your Div for that year. Any contrived game outside of the season proper has no merit whatsoever, I don't think Collingwood care who one the internal trial last pre-season the only thing that would matter to them is the fact they lost the GF. I think people need to come to the realisation that they are only playing amateur football and that you should be playing it for the love of football and your club. Its funny how the Div 5 and 6 sides who pay players to play amateur football go on and on about being able to beat a Div 1R side who don't pay anyone (well I hope not anyway)...

In theory you are absolutely correct D14, however there are still some that wish to prove a point, hence why I'm doing this - so we can stop bloody hearing about it! (and have a bit of fun in the meantime):lol:

[D14]

Am I the only person who couldn't give a toss either way? Does it really matter? At the end of the day you only have to beat the other teams in your Div for that year. Any contrived game outside of the season proper has no merit whatsoever, I don't think Collingwood care who one the internal trial last pre-season the only thing that would matter to them is the fact they lost the GF. I think people need to come to the realisation that they are only playing amateur football and that you should be playing it for the love of football and your club. Its funny how the Div 5 and 6 sides who pay players to play amateur football go on and on about being able to beat a Div 1R side who don't pay anyone (well I hope not anyway)...

In theory you are absolutely correct D14, however there are still some that wish to prove a point, hence why I'm doing this - so we can stop bloody hearing about it! (and have a bit of fun in the meantime):lol:

That is true, however this all started from 1 guy from a club saying that his team could beat a Div 1R team, he forgot that the year before this statement his team couldn't beat a Div 6 team and only got saved from relegation to Div 7 by another team leaving the comp. Teams change every year, players come and go and injury's happen. I know it gives us something to talk about and that's what this forum is about but keep it in perspective people.

P.S. not having a go at you FC just the statement in general.

[story of my life]

and what will they be playing for, The Who Gives a F##k Cup

[kickinit]

the only way for this to work would be to have the B&F and runner up from each club and the association winner as your 21, incase the assoc winner won the club B&F then the person that came third from his club in the B&F would also get picked. That's the only way you could do this, any other way and it would be a waste of time. You could have 21 D1r players that where lucky to be playing against the best 21 of D5. If it was the best of each Div then i'm sorry to say the Div5 boys wouldn't stand a chance.

[BIG RED CAT]

Ive played in the SAAFL for 18 years,alot of B grade from D1 down to D6 and i personally believe a composite D5 side would beat any top 5 D1res side,bottom D1res sides would get smashed.

[piccachu]

div 5 premiers v div1R premiers if not that then just a team from div 1r and a team from div 5 that finished around the same point on the ladder in there grades

[woodublieve12]

div 5 premiers v div1R premiers if not that then just a team from div 1r and a team from div 5 that finished around the same point on the ladder in there grades

the argument is is the D1R side can beat a D5 side, were a D4 side!!!

[Q.]

You also need a venue. Houghton springs to mind.

It would be available due to it not being used for cricket.

[Jabber]

You also need a venue. Houghton springs to mind.

It would be available due to it not being used for cricket.

Nah, thebbie!

SAAFL should have no problems letting its football comminuty use the Oval

Needs to be central-ish!

[Footy Chick]

agreed, and I'll be having a chat with the appropriate people tonight.

[Cash 123]

WOW

[Footy Follower]

Come on people let's think logically here.

Love the idea to start with but will never happen. Like people have said getting a full side in Feb, not likely.

Playing a allstar div 5 side against a normal div 1R side is not comparing apples with apples.
I think the main question to ask which will give the most reasoning to base an opinion on is the difference in the depth of a club from div 1 to div 5. Any side from Div 1 down to div 6 or 7 will most likely have 2 or 3 guys who are guns that would comfortably play at a higher level. The difference however is the rest of the side. That is why playing an all star div 5 side would be pointless.
The main thing that seperates succesful clubs is the depth of the entire club. You take a Henley for example. They have 4 or 5 sides meaning they probably have at least 80 odd blokes training at once. Most of which are competing to play div 1.
Now every team has injuries, but the real successful clubs are the ones that can cover their injuries by bringing guys up who are at the same or similar level.

Finally let's ask this. Looking at the following games who would you tip to win.
Henley Div 1R vs Plympton A Grade
SHOC Div 1R vs Salisbury West A grade
Walkerville Div2R vs Kenilworth

These are all sides who finished in the same position of their respective competitiions.
My picks would be the first team in each game

[Jetters]

Surely this is just a bit of banter and people realise this is a stupid idea.

For what its worth, I think the top D1R sides would beat the top D5 sides, probably beat most D4 sides as well.

Playing composite teams is ridiculous and doing so would demonstrate nothing. Of course there are blokes in D5 that could play high and an all-star D5 team would beat an all-star D1R team.

[FRED]

Obviously the town idiot spot has been filled. Say no more

[turbo182]

Think you guys may be paddling up stream, but having played with/against guys from both those grades (from a non-bias position!), I think the D1R team (finishing in the top half of the ladder) would win comfortably. The lower the division, the bigger the gap between best player and worst players in the first 21.

Some guys i know playing A Grade at div 5/6 would struggle to make our B Grade (Div 3) let alone a top div 1 side.

All IMO naturally - interesting debate.

[Executive Member]

Should call it The Unknown Source Cup

[THACHY_7]

Why don't u turn it into a fundraiser game?
Find a ground that has fencing and make it gold coin donation upon entry?
All proceeds from the games will go to a nominated charity.
Have something like 3 or 4 games played throughout the afternoon/night.
The fixture could look somethink like this:
Div 1R v Div 5 match
Div 5 team of the year v Div 6 team of the year match
Div 3 team of the year v Div 4 team of the year match
Div 1 team of the year v Div 2 team of the year match
I understand not every player is going to be available. So if that's the case, ask each club to nominate 1 or 2 players who wants to play to represent their respective clubs. Players who get chosen to play will get the chance to fine tune their skills and build up their match fitness ready for round 1.

[Footy Follower]

Think you guys may be paddling up stream, but having played with/against guys from both those grades (from a non-bias position!), I think the D1R team (finishing in the top half of the ladder) would win comfortably. The lower the division, the bigger the gap between best player and worst players in the first 21.

Some guys i know playing A Grade at div 5/6 would struggle to make our B Grade (Div 3) let alone a top div 1 side. All IMO naturally - interesting debate.

Spot on!

[Footy Follower]

Why don't u turn it into a fundraiser game?
Find a ground that has fencing and make it gold coin donation upon entry?
All proceeds from the games will go to a nominated charity.
Have something like 3 or 4 games played throughout the afternoon/night.
The fixture could look somethink like this:
Div 1R v Div 5 match
Div 5 team of the year v Div 6 team of the year match
Div 3 team of the year v Div 4 team of the year match
Div 1 team of the year v Div 2 team of the year match
I understand not every player is going to be available. So if that's the case, ask each club to nominate 1 or 2 players who wants to play to represent their respective clubs. Players who get chosen to play will get the chance to fine tune their skills and build up their match fitness ready for round 1.

I like the idea of Div 1 team of the year vs Div 2 team of the year etc. They should make guernsey's up for each division and have it as a "state of origin" like feel to it. I would definitely go watch these games. I reckon they would be closer than alot of people would think too.

[Boosh]

Think you guys may be paddling up stream, but having played with/against guys from both those grades (from a non-bias position!), I think the D1R team (finishing in the top half of the ladder) would win comfortably. The lower the division, the bigger the gap between best player and worst players in the first 21.

Some guys i know playing A Grade at div 5/6 would struggle to make our B Grade (Div 3) let alone a top div 1 side.

All IMO naturally - interesting debate.

On the other side of the coin there are at least 6 blokes from my team that would walk into your A Grade team turbs, almost all are old scholars too.