The Smithfield domino effect...

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Re: The Smithfield domino effect...

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:41 am

Dogwatcher wrote:You don't sound too hopeful LM...


I'm not. The SAAFL has been very helpful in trying to keep us alive apparently, the horse has bolted IMO.
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Re: The Smithfield domino effect...

Postby BenchedEagle » Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:43 am

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duncs wrote:
Might be hard to see but i think Smithfield should enter the 2 sides in Div 5. Im a big believer in 'If you build it they will come'
They will have a very motley B grade and wont win a game but im sure they can find enough old blokes come outta retirement and young lads will rock up for a game that maybe stayed away in last couple years coz they didnt make the B grade cut.

No matter what A grade side Smithfield put out they will be competitive. Thats just the way they are.


I appreciate your support and best wishes, the problem you face when you are lacking numbers is that players know they will get a game and it makes it harder for the club to get rego out of them, seen this last season in a big way.
You don't put teams on the park for the sake of it, it needs to financially viable, yes the A grade would've been very competetive but you don't know who'll you'll get rocking up for the B's......if any.
As far as getting some old heads out there, one or two games in and they get injured and you're back to square one.
yeah thats true, as usual i dont look at all aspects of the problem lol

Only suggestion i have for the financial angle which ive seen successfully work at some clubs with C grade sides is that instead of rego you charge a match fee $5-$10 a game. (works well with indoor sports) get approx $100 per player for the season. Wont make any money but can go close to breaking even or a manageable loss. Ask for a donation for the mandatory carton of beer after the game to be made by a member. Also the A graders who have stayed are obviously very loyal and prob wont mind an increase of $10$30 in registration if it assists in keeping them in Division 5 instead of a C grade.
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Re: The Smithfield domino effect...

Postby Dogwatcher » Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:04 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:You don't sound too hopeful LM...


I'm not. The SAAFL has been very helpful in trying to keep us alive apparently, the horse has bolted IMO.


Hmmmm....where's the SA Footy love guys? We've helped keep one club going....
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Re: The Smithfield domino effect...

Postby zedman » Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:28 pm

start with a "P"?
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Re: The Smithfield domino effect...

Postby Boosh » Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:35 pm

Sadly for LM and everyone involved with Smithfield I have been informed that they will not be in Div 5 next season.

Lets hope they are still involved in a C Grade comp.

Lets see who it will be that replaces them
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Re: The Smithfield domino effect...

Postby Q. » Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:36 pm

Question to Mitchell Park and Ingle Farm lads, do you think either club will opt to stay in Div 6?
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Re: The Smithfield domino effect...

Postby The Riddler » Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:42 pm

Boosh wrote:Sadly for LM and everyone involved with Smithfield I have been informed that they will not be in Div 5 next season.

Lets hope they are still involved in a C Grade comp.

Lets see who it will be that replaces them

Sad for everyone involved down at Smithfield. We down at Mawsons know exactly what they're going through with us being in the same boat back in the day with St Pauls going down to only 1 team due to players exiting left, right and centre. All I can say is stay strong and positive because things will eventually change and you'll be back. I recommend going to the C grade comp with 1 team and grow from there it may not be an overnight fix but in the long run it will be. We went to one team won a premiership and had 2 up again the next year and now we're looking at having 3 teams for the 1st time in our history.

Keep the faith Smithies ;)
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Re: The Smithfield domino effect...

Postby The Riddler » Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:46 pm

Quichey wrote:Question to Mitchell Park and Ingle Farm lads, do you think either club will opt to stay in Div 6?

This is the question i'd like to know also ;)

I'm going to assume both will say no given their results last year and from what i've been told the training numbers of at least 1 of those sides isn't very flattering this pre season. Should this be the case seeing as they finished 3rd last year SHOC would be offered the position am I correct? Being a C grade team I don't think they would go either so therefore would Glenunga be given the opportunity as they finished 4th? Div 7 could end up being a 9 team comp.
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Re: The Smithfield domino effect...

Postby Q. » Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:49 pm

And if Glenunga say no, would there be any other takers from Div 7?
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Re: The Smithfield domino effect...

Postby zedman » Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:52 pm

so nth haven get the first call to go up to div 5 and farmers for div 6..
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Re: The Smithfield domino effect...

Postby The Riddler » Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:52 pm

Quichey wrote:And if Glenunga say no, would there be any other takers from Div 7?

So many questions so few answers.

P.s I doubt it would get to us but should it I would say No
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Re: The Smithfield domino effect...

Postby dee man » Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:54 pm

The Riddler wrote:
Quichey wrote:Question to Mitchell Park and Ingle Farm lads, do you think either club will opt to stay in Div 6?

This is the question i'd like to know also ;)

I'm going to assume both will say no given their results last year and from what i've been told the training numbers of at least 1 of those sides isn't very flattering this pre season. Should this be the case seeing as they finished 3rd last year SHOC would be offered the position am I correct? Being a C grade team I don't think they would go either so therefore would Glenunga be given the opportunity as they finished 4th? Div 7 could end up being a 9 team comp.

i take it the low numbers must be at ingle farm because i know for a fact the lions will be ok
if they have the choice they would probably stay up but this happened to them a fewv years ago against alot of advise and was the one of the reasons of last year.which ever way they go im sure that the lions are going to shock alot of clubs in either division.
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Re: The Smithfield domino effect...

Postby Boosh » Mon Feb 21, 2011 2:18 pm

zedman wrote:so nth haven get the first call to go up to div 5 and farmers for div 6..


Pretty certain that is the case, I think this will all be resolved by the end of the week
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Re: The Smithfield domino effect...

Postby morell » Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:52 pm

Quichey wrote:Question to Mitchell Park and Ingle Farm lads, do you think either club will opt to stay in Div 6?
Probably need to be decided at committee level. As dee man said last time this happened the club damn near split in two. There were pro's and con's on both sides of the argument.

I was actually on the committee at the time and I couldn’t make up my mind to the point that I abstained from voting. The vote was just about 50-50. Looking back now it was probably a mistake staying up, but hindsight is always in 20/20. Just because a coin lands on heads once doesn’t mean it will again the next time you flip it.

We were also in a completely different position then to how we got relegated last year. The year before we were very competitive and I have to say quite unlucky to get relegated at all, it went down to the last game from memory. The 2010 season was an abject disaster however and we were not competitive for the majority of the year. All in all no one posting on here could say for sure what the club would decide to do, as it is after all, a club.

Personally I don’t think it should be up the clubs at all and the SAAFL should insist clubs play in their assigned division.
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Re: The Smithfield domino effect...

Postby morell » Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:02 pm

dee man wrote:
The Riddler wrote:
Quichey wrote:Question to Mitchell Park and Ingle Farm lads, do you think either club will opt to stay in Div 6?

This is the question i'd like to know also ;)

I'm going to assume both will say no given their results last year and from what i've been told the training numbers of at least 1 of those sides isn't very flattering this pre season. Should this be the case seeing as they finished 3rd last year SHOC would be offered the position am I correct? Being a C grade team I don't think they would go either so therefore would Glenunga be given the opportunity as they finished 4th? Div 7 could end up being a 9 team comp.

i take it the low numbers must be at ingle farm because i know for a fact the lions will be ok
if they have the choice they would probably stay up but this happened to them a fewv years ago against alot of advise and was the one of the reasons of last year.which ever way they go im sure that the lions are going to shock alot of clubs in either division.
Stop spreading false rumours.

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Re: The Smithfield domino effect...

Postby finn » Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:14 pm

If this dominon effect occurs, would modbury head back to div 7?
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Re: The Smithfield domino effect...

Postby TheAussieBogan » Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:21 pm

Quichey wrote:And if Glenunga say no, would there be any other takers from Div 7?


I'm no longer on the GFC committee and cant speak for the club but I think if it was offered to Glenunga they would jump at the chance to move up to Div 6.

But I'm also not Chad Bourke (I'm much better looking), So I guess we will just have to wait and find out.
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Re: The Smithfield domino effect...

Postby dee man » Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:39 pm

morell wrote:
dee man wrote:
The Riddler wrote:
Quichey wrote:Question to Mitchell Park and Ingle Farm lads, do you think either club will opt to stay in Div 6?

This is the question i'd like to know also ;)

I'm going to assume both will say no given their results last year and from what i've been told the training numbers of at least 1 of those sides isn't very flattering this pre season. Should this be the case seeing as they finished 3rd last year SHOC would be offered the position am I correct? Being a C grade team I don't think they would go either so therefore would Glenunga be given the opportunity as they finished 4th? Div 7 could end up being a 9 team comp.

i take it the low numbers must be at ingle farm because i know for a fact the lions will be ok
if they have the choice they would probably stay up but this happened to them a fewv years ago against alot of advise and was the one of the reasons of last year.which ever way they go im sure that the lions are going to shock alot of clubs in either division.
Stop spreading false rumours.

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Re: The Smithfield domino effect...

Postby The Dark Knight » Mon Feb 21, 2011 5:09 pm

zedman wrote:so nth haven get the first call to go up to div 5 and farmers for div 6..

Looks like it. I hope the club gives everyone at NH the choice of whether to stay in Div 6 or get premoted.

I personally would like to stay in Div 6 for this season. Being premoted automatically is a kind of 'Get out of jail free card' if you like but IMO don't think our playing squad is good enough just yet to play Div 5 footy so I think it would be in our best interests to stay in Div 6 for this season and at the the day, it was our fault for being regelated to Div 6 and it should be up to us and us alone to get ourselves out of it.
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Re: The Smithfield domino effect...

Postby Demon Juke » Mon Feb 21, 2011 8:05 pm

Footy Chick wrote:All talk on the effect on other grades should Smithfield officially pull the pin should now be posted here... I've started this thread as I'm sick of seeing talk on it on 3 different threads.

It was offical last thursday night, the league new Friday i was told. Maybe they have been to busy getting ready for the afl game to worry about it's own back yard.
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