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Re: SAAFL _ LOCAL AREA DIVISIONS. We've got too much travelling

Postby smac » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:20 pm

zedman wrote:
Felch wrote:Are people actually serious when they say its a long way to travel across Adelaide ? FFS !!!

Its pretty simple, if you dont like it, dont play. Sports like cricket and basketball all still involve travel. Be grateful its only Adelaide you have to travel across. A mate of mine coaches a junior basketball side in Melbourne, and they have to travel to Bendigo and Geelong some Friday nights. He does it because he loves the game.

C'mon guys, surely there are more pressing issues than this :?


is this any less pressing than jeff the hotdog man?

show me a more lopsided grade in turf cricket than the present one in div 5..its a joke

we never asked for all the northern leagues to be brought into SAAFL..its only brought more travelling, more thugs and less fun..like i said..when SFL joins SAAFL lets see the northern teams cry like babies LOL..why do you think the SAAFL trialled north and south divisions in the lower grades?..because it IS a problem

3 blokes complaining on a forum with 2000 members does not make this a problem for anyone but the 3 blokes complaining... :wink:

And the many positives these Northern clubs have brought to the league can be just forgotten about and not used to balance your position?
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Re: SAAFL _ LOCAL AREA DIVISIONS. We've got too much travelling

Postby Q. » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:23 pm

Fair suck of the sav!! Three, four, maybe five times a year you'll have to travel between 45-60 mins to play a game of footy and there's talk of sacrificing the diversity and competitiveness of the league to make life easier for a minority. Geez, just a hitch a ride with yer mates, talk footy, hang shit on each other and you'll be there already.

As hawkseye said, it can be a tad annoying, but for blokes to not play footy because of a couple of slightly inconvenient trips, as you suggested zedman, is ridiculous.
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Re: SAAFL _ LOCAL AREA DIVISIONS. We've got too much travelling

Postby hawkseye » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:27 pm

D-Quiche wrote:Fair suck of the sav!! Three, four, maybe five times a year you'll have to travel between 45-60 mins to play a game of footy and there's talk of sacrificing the diversity and competitiveness of the league to make life easier for a minority. Geez, just a hitch a ride with yer mates, talk footy, hang s***t on each other and you'll be there already.

As hawkseye said, it can be a tad annoying, but for blokes to not play footy because of a couple of slightly inconvenient trips, as you suggested zedman, is ridiculous.

Now thats what amatuer footy should be about! Mates, carpooling, getting stuck into each other and if i can add one more having a beverage with the opposition before you head back.
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Re: SAAFL _ LOCAL AREA DIVISIONS. We've got too much travelling

Postby zedman » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:29 pm

hawkseye wrote:
zedman wrote:
Felch wrote:Are people actually serious when they say its a long way to travel across Adelaide ? FFS !!!

Its pretty simple, if you dont like it, dont play. Sports like cricket and basketball all still involve travel. Be grateful its only Adelaide you have to travel across. A mate of mine coaches a junior basketball side in Melbourne, and they have to travel to Bendigo and Geelong some Friday nights. He does it because he loves the game.

C'mon guys, surely there are more pressing issues than this :?


is this any less pressing than jeff the hotdog man?

show me a more lopsided grade in turf cricket than the present one in div 5..its a joke

we never asked for all the northern leagues to be brought into SAAFL..its only brought more travelling, more thugs and less fun..like i said..when SFL joins SAAFL lets see the northern teams cry like babies LOL..why do you think the SAAFL trialled north and south divisions in the lower grades?..because it IS a problem

Maybe you should complain on the Adelaide turf forum? Its only a problem if you make it one. Amatuer League take note that for now on before expanding make sure you run it past zedman 1st.



felch said cricket is just the same as football in regards to travelling..i said..well show me an atca divison that is more lopsided than div 5 ..div 5,the division i was discussing in the post above, football not cricket..now you look like a fool ..

why did they trial north and south divisions in lower grades hawk?..because they were bored? LOL
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Re: SAAFL _ LOCAL AREA DIVISIONS. We've got too much travelling

Postby hawkseye » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:33 pm

zedman wrote:
hawkseye wrote:
zedman wrote:
Felch wrote:Are people actually serious when they say its a long way to travel across Adelaide ? FFS !!!

Its pretty simple, if you dont like it, dont play. Sports like cricket and basketball all still involve travel. Be grateful its only Adelaide you have to travel across. A mate of mine coaches a junior basketball side in Melbourne, and they have to travel to Bendigo and Geelong some Friday nights. He does it because he loves the game.

C'mon guys, surely there are more pressing issues than this :?


is this any less pressing than jeff the hotdog man?

show me a more lopsided grade in turf cricket than the present one in div 5..its a joke

we never asked for all the northern leagues to be brought into SAAFL..its only brought more travelling, more thugs and less fun..like i said..when SFL joins SAAFL lets see the northern teams cry like babies LOL..why do you think the SAAFL trialled north and south divisions in the lower grades?..because it IS a problem

Maybe you should complain on the Adelaide turf forum? Its only a problem if you make it one. Amatuer League take note that for now on before expanding make sure you run it past zedman 1st.



felch said cricket is just the same as football in regards to travelling..i said..well show me an atca divison that is more lopsided than div 5 ..div 5,the division i was discussing in the post above, football not cricket..now you look like a fool ..

why did they trial north and south divisions in lower grades hawk?..because they were bored? LOL

Im not sure you need to resort to name calling as i never said you were a fool. You are in the minority mate, but keep your chin up and keep on keeping on :wink:
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Re: SAAFL _ LOCAL AREA DIVISIONS. We've got too much travelling

Postby Felch » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:34 pm

I was trying to say that there is travelling involved in other sports too , ie cricket.

I think the discrepancy you are talking about in D5 turf cricket is probably more to do with the association's grading than where the teams are located.

Like i said, there will always be problems with the lower grades - some clubs have C & D grades, some have just C's, others neither, etc.
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Re: SAAFL _ LOCAL AREA DIVISIONS. We've got too much travelling

Postby zedman » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:34 pm

D-Quiche wrote:Fair suck of the sav!! Three, four, maybe five times a year you'll have to travel between 45-60 mins to play a game of footy and there's talk of sacrificing the diversity and competitiveness of the league to make life easier for a minority. Geez, just a hitch a ride with yer mates, talk footy, hang s***t on each other and you'll be there already.

As hawkseye said, it can be a tad annoying, but for blokes to not play footy because of a couple of slightly inconvenient trips, as you suggested zedman, is ridiculous.


in div 5 its 7 trips out north and i doubt i would get to any of them in 60 minutes..you travelled from flinders uni to smithfield or golden grove lately d-quiche on a saturday midday?

and carey is from paralowie?..wouldnt expect you to be troubled about playing northern teams..duh
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Re: SAAFL _ LOCAL AREA DIVISIONS. We've got too much travelling

Postby zedman » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:39 pm

Felch wrote:I was trying to say that there is travelling involved in other sports too , ie cricket.

I think the discrepancy you are talking about in D5 turf cricket is probably more to do with the association's grading than where the teams are located.

Like i said, there will always be problems with the lower grades - some clubs have C & D grades, some have just C's, others neither, etc.


not cricket,football felch :)
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Re: SAAFL _ LOCAL AREA DIVISIONS. We've got too much travelling

Postby zedman » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:40 pm

"Amatuer League take note that for now on before expanding make sure you run it past zedman 1st."

so that wasnt a dig at me hawkseye?? :roll:
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Re: SAAFL _ LOCAL AREA DIVISIONS. We've got too much travelling

Postby Bagman » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:41 pm

Felch wrote:
zedman wrote:
Felch wrote:Are people actually serious when they say its a long way to travel across Adelaide ? FFS !!!

Its pretty simple, if you dont like it, dont play. Sports like cricket and basketball all still involve travel. Be grateful its only Adelaide you have to travel across. A mate of mine coaches a junior basketball side in Melbourne, and they have to travel to Bendigo and Geelong some Friday nights. He does it because he loves the game.

C'mon guys, surely there are more pressing issues than this :?


is this any less pressing than jeff the hotdog man?

show me a more lopsided grade in turf cricket than the present one in div 5..its a joke

we never asked for all the northern leagues to be brought into SAAFL..its only brought more travelling, more thugs and less fun..like i said..when SFL joins SAAFL lets see the northern teams cry like babies LOL..why do you think the SAAFL trialled north and south divisions in the lower grades?..because it IS a problem


You cannot set up a division based on geographical area in Adelaide and expect it to be fair. Look at the SFL - huge discrepancies between the top and bottom sides.

Are you suggesting that the northern-suburb teams should get out of the SAAFL and form their own league ? Some of the SFL teams should be in the SAAFL, if you based it on where they are - Brighton, Marion, Morphettville Pk, Happy Valley. These sides are closer to the CBD than Smithfield and Trinity. But they want to stay in the SFL and good luck to them.

The current SAAFL grading works fine. I admit, the lower grades (C divisions) can be a problem, but thats a work-in-progress.

It would be as fair as any div. there is currently. There would be 4 or 5 divisions East and West and 6 or 7 div. North and South , top sides go up spooners go down , how cant it be fair ? The SFL isn't a good example because they dont have enough teams and divisions.
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Re: SAAFL _ LOCAL AREA DIVISIONS. We've got too much travelling

Postby The Ash Man » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:43 pm

Maybe Flinders are just upset that their A grade is in Div 7 now and not C5 like last year which was a joke....
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Re: SAAFL _ LOCAL AREA DIVISIONS. We've got too much travelling

Postby Felch » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:45 pm

Bagman wrote:
Felch wrote:
zedman wrote:
Felch wrote:Are people actually serious when they say its a long way to travel across Adelaide ? FFS !!!

Its pretty simple, if you dont like it, dont play. Sports like cricket and basketball all still involve travel. Be grateful its only Adelaide you have to travel across. A mate of mine coaches a junior basketball side in Melbourne, and they have to travel to Bendigo and Geelong some Friday nights. He does it because he loves the game.

C'mon guys, surely there are more pressing issues than this :?


is this any less pressing than jeff the hotdog man?

show me a more lopsided grade in turf cricket than the present one in div 5..its a joke

we never asked for all the northern leagues to be brought into SAAFL..its only brought more travelling, more thugs and less fun..like i said..when SFL joins SAAFL lets see the northern teams cry like babies LOL..why do you think the SAAFL trialled north and south divisions in the lower grades?..because it IS a problem


You cannot set up a division based on geographical area in Adelaide and expect it to be fair. Look at the SFL - huge discrepancies between the top and bottom sides.

Are you suggesting that the northern-suburb teams should get out of the SAAFL and form their own league ? Some of the SFL teams should be in the SAAFL, if you based it on where they are - Brighton, Marion, Morphettville Pk, Happy Valley. These sides are closer to the CBD than Smithfield and Trinity. But they want to stay in the SFL and good luck to them.

The current SAAFL grading works fine. I admit, the lower grades (C divisions) can be a problem, but thats a work-in-progress.

It would be as fair as any div. there is currently. There would be 4 or 5 divisions East and West and 6 or 7 div. North and South , top sides go up spooners go down , how cant it be fair ? The SFL isn't a good example because they dont have enough teams and divisions.


Exactly, because the SFL is based on the geographical location of their teams, ie south of Adelaide.
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Re: SAAFL _ LOCAL AREA DIVISIONS. We've got too much travelling

Postby Felch » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:48 pm

zedman wrote:
Felch wrote:I was trying to say that there is travelling involved in other sports too , ie cricket.

I think the discrepancy you are talking about in D5 turf cricket is probably more to do with the association's grading than where the teams are located.

Like i said, there will always be problems with the lower grades - some clubs have C & D grades, some have just C's, others neither, etc.


not cricket,football felch :)


Ok, i misunderstood what you were trying to say. I understand now.

D5 is an exception though, the other divisions seem pretty fair. 4 of the northern suburbs teams could quite easily depart that division next year and it would be back to a more even spread.
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Re: SAAFL _ LOCAL AREA DIVISIONS. We've got too much travelling

Postby smac » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:50 pm

Lower grades are a different kettle of fish. A lot of these players have less time/commitment/ability than those in higher divisions, an attempt to locate their games within reasonable distance made sense. Having Salisbury play Salisbury North at the moment doesn't make sense.

Quite simply, it could only work as a measure to reduce CO2 emissions from cars due to reduced travelling. The divisions are reasonably even now, with a few exceptions when clubs have bad trots or purple patches.

If there are 7 trips out North, it seems your team is the interloper... :wink:
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Re: SAAFL _ LOCAL AREA DIVISIONS. We've got too much travelling

Postby Bagman » Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:07 pm

FELCH , The reason the SFL is lopsided is because there is only two div. ( plus reserves ) this is not a problem for SAAFL . The up side to the SFL is the crowd their top clashes get and that is because they are relatively close . THE LOCAL DEBRY"S . That is what we've lost and (personally I miss..). And how could there be a better thing for SAAFL footy than to have a Adelaide Champion Club , for all clubs to aspire to . More crowd , more money for clubs , more local rivalries , its all good ...!
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Re: SAAFL _ LOCAL AREA DIVISIONS. We've got too much travelling

Postby hawkseye » Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:17 pm

zedman wrote:"Amatuer League take note that for now on before expanding make sure you run it past zedman 1st."

so that wasnt a dig at me hawkseye?? :roll:

Yes it was, but name calling is well :-k basic.
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Re: SAAFL _ LOCAL AREA DIVISIONS. We've got too much travelling

Postby zedman » Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:21 pm

smac wrote:Lower grades are a different kettle of fish. A lot of these players have less time/commitment/ability than those in higher divisions, an attempt to locate their games within reasonable distance made sense. Having Salisbury play Salisbury North at the moment doesn't make sense.

Quite simply, it could only work as a measure to reduce CO2 emissions from cars due to reduced travelling. The divisions are reasonably even now, with a few exceptions when clubs have bad trots or purple patches.

If there are 7 trips out North, it seems your team is the interloper... :wink:


we have been in SAAFL for 100 years..i doubt the others have anywhere near that besides rosewater :twisted:
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Re: SAAFL _ LOCAL AREA DIVISIONS. We've got too much travelling

Postby zedman » Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:23 pm

hawkseye wrote:
zedman wrote:"Amatuer League take note that for now on before expanding make sure you run it past zedman 1st."

so that wasnt a dig at me hawkseye?? :roll:

Yes it was, but name calling is well :-k basic.


pffft..bottle half full or half empty..

and i dont mind being a minority on this topic..im used to it
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Re: SAAFL _ LOCAL AREA DIVISIONS. We've got too much travelling

Postby hawkseye » Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:26 pm

zedman wrote:
hawkseye wrote:
zedman wrote:"Amatuer League take note that for now on before expanding make sure you run it past zedman 1st."

so that wasnt a dig at me hawkseye?? :roll:

Yes it was, but name calling is well :-k basic.


pffft..bottle half full or half empty..

and i dont mind being a minority on this topic..im used to it

You go get em :axe:
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Re: SAAFL _ LOCAL AREA DIVISIONS. We've got too much travelling

Postby Pag » Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:29 pm

If the old CDFA (northern suburbs) was to re-form, just a hypothetical to cut out travelling, it would look like this:

Div 1: Salisbury North
Div 2: -
Div 3: Salisbury, Salisbury West, Eastern Park
Div 4: -
Div 5: Elizabeth, Smithfield, Central United
Div 6: Brahma Lodge
Div 7: Angle Vale, Paralowie
C2: North Pines

Not exactly the most even comp. My point simply is, having location-based competitions is going to cause the gaps between the higher and lower clubs to increase. Ask the SFL how their 60-goal drubbings are going.
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