SAAFL Div C3 (2011)

[SATCHEL]

[b][quote="kickinit"][b]Smosh vs Portland think this will be a close game withing 5 goals be good for portland to see if they are going to be close to the top2[/b[/b]

After a decent start to the game for both sides the game was won in the end from some unfortunate luck for my lads. I tell you what though. At division three level at no stage should a player officiate a game. SMOSH had a player who obviously didnt get a top to put on (i dont care what the reasoning is) ans then umpires the game. Not at any stage did he officiate correctly. No one was protected and a key decision was made when the game was in the balance and to be honest cost us movement forward. Im not saying that it was the reason we lost the game but it was one of the main ones. Our ump was also disgraceful on both halfs. The league must take the time out to watch all umpires at it. I know there is a lot of footy on the weekends but they can see what these clowns are like. The best ump in the C 3 division is Golden Groves. Id pay that bloke anything he wanted to ump my games. Im sorry bu tthe umps put a cloud on what could have been a great day for us.
I expected that SMOSH thought they would run away with another 20 goal win like they have to us in recent years. We faught hard all day and ran the ball well. We have slipped a spot from where we have been over the past few weeks but they wont deter us. Now to CBC and then FP. I actually cant wait for FP. Good to see Mitcham get back into some form. GG seem to be up and about. With the way the ladder is now i cant see much changing except 4th to 7th. We need to keep our heads about it otherwise we will fall below and all that hard work we have done will be waisted

[kickinit]

i was lucky enough to be working around the corner from flinders and was able to watch the last half of the game. Mitcham was up until the last qtr when FP hit the fron then Mitcham got it back then in the last few minutes FP took it back. I was very impressed with the ball skills on display for a wet game in a c grade comp. The umpire in the light orange should not be umpiring and it was pretty obvious he was the FP umpire because he never protected mitcham when they where putting there head over the ball, one resulted in a mitcham player bleeding from the head heavily and it was called played on. As satchel said the SAAFL need to do something about this, I know it would be hard but maybe try to get club umpires, umpire at different clubs so there not doing there home club. With the results from the top 4 i think come finals it's going to be a lot closer then it looked like 4 or so weeks ago

[The Cows]

i was lucky enough to be working around the corner from flinders and was able to watch the last half of the game. Mitcham was up until the last qtr when FP hit the fron then Mitcham got it back then in the last few minutes FP took it back. I was very impressed with the ball skills on display for a wet game in a c grade comp. The umpire in the light orange should not be umpiring and it was pretty obvious he was the FP umpire because he never protected mitcham when they where putting there head over the ball, one resulted in a mitcham player bleeding from the head heavily and it was called played on. As satchel said the SAAFL need to do something about this, I know it would be hard but maybe try to get club umpires, umpire at different clubs so there not doing there home club. With the results from the top 4 i think come finals it's going to be a lot closer then it looked like 4 or so weeks ago

It's very easy to bag umpires from the sidelines but in the C grade comp do you realise how hard it is to get somebody to umpire. Do you think the money is worth all the abuse you get from players of either sides! I was there and yes it was a very good game. Did you happen to see the monumental blunder by the Mitcham umpire?? He let one of our players play on after the half time siren and kick a goal across his body. I am not sure if the umpire you are speaking of is our umpire, the umpire we had on Sat has umpired well over 100 game and trust me he doesn't favour anyone. I know this from experience. People can bag the umpires from the Amatuer League in the A grade games but give all club umpires a break cause without them we wouldn't be playing.

[double-blue]

i was lucky enough to be working around the corner from flinders and was able to watch the last half of the game. Mitcham was up until the last qtr when FP hit the fron then Mitcham got it back then in the last few minutes FP took it back. I was very impressed with the ball skills on display for a wet game in a c grade comp. The umpire in the light orange should not be umpiring and it was pretty obvious he was the FP umpire because he never protected mitcham when they where putting there head over the ball, one resulted in a mitcham player bleeding from the head heavily and it was called played on. As satchel said the SAAFL need to do something about this, I know it would be hard but maybe try to get club umpires, umpire at different clubs so there not doing there home club. With the results from the top 4 i think come finals it's going to be a lot closer then it looked like 4 or so weeks ago

It's very easy to bag umpires from the sidelines but in the C grade comp do you realise how hard it is to get somebody to umpire. Do you think the money is worth all the abuse you get from players of either sides! I was there and yes it was a very good game. Did you happen to see the monumental blunder by the Mitcham umpire?? He let one of our players play on after the half time siren and kick a goal across his body. I am not sure if the umpire you are speaking of is our umpire, the umpire we had on Sat has umpired well over 100 game and trust me he doesn't favour anyone. I know this from experience. People can bag the umpires from the Amatuer League in the A grade games but give all club umpires a break cause without them we wouldn't be playing.

Well said, often it comes down to experience. The umpires in C grade just rock up on Saturdays without much training etc (even AFL umpires make mistakes). More often than not they make bad decisions because they aren't fit enough to get to a contest.

[kickinit]

It's very easy to bag umpires from the sidelines but in the C grade comp do you realise how hard it is to get somebody to umpire. Do you think the money is worth all the abuse you get from players of either sides! I was there and yes it was a very good game. Did you happen to see the monumental blunder by the Mitcham umpire?? He let one of our players play on after the half time siren and kick a goal across his body. I am not sure if the umpire you are speaking of is our umpire, the umpire we had on Sat has umpired well over 100 game and trust me he doesn't favour anyone. I know this from experience. People can bag the umpires from the Amatuer League in the A grade games but give all club umpires a break cause without them we wouldn't be playing.[/quote]

I only saw from the start of the 3rd qtr. He might of umpired 100games but that doesn't mean anything all I know there was one umpire giving mitcham the rough end of the stick, even if your going to favour you own side you have to atleast protect the other team when there putting there head over the ball. I know it's hard to get club umpires but I think the SAAFL need to start spending more time with these club umpires.

[SATCHEL]

SIMPLE ANSWER. DO NOT let an club umpires officiate their own clubs games. If you continue to applaud complacency and allow these guys to keep going the way they are then thats the leagues fault for nopt listening or looking at an avenue to create a better alternative to the crap that is dished out week in week out.

[SATCHEL]

Sorry got a bit worked up after Saturday's game and how that went down with the umpiring. No one on any given day is going to be 100% happy with any decision/s that they call. Its just a fact we will never get them and have never seen them change their mind. We are all quick to shoot the bullet but no one wants to hold the gun. Until now. I would put my hand up to go to tthe league and voice but i understand that delegates are there for a reason (evidently) and they should broadcast our voices and not be worried about looking bad to the leagyue when their are legitimate concerns.
My suggestion still stands though with club umpires not officiating the own clubs games. Same as the higher divisions. Where are the results of the umpire's report cards for the games or year? The clubs get one each week and annually and get smacked over the knuckles for small indiscretions. Whats good for one should be good for the ones pushing the issue's or demanding the respect

[Choccies]

SIMPLE ANSWER. DO NOT let an club umpires officiate their own clubs games. If you continue to applaud complacency and allow these guys to keep going the way they are then thats the leagues fault for nopt listening or looking at an avenue to create a better alternative to the crap that is dished out week in week out.

That's easy to say but hard to do. Most of these club umpires do so to help out their club and enjoy being able to watch another game on the same day with a beer in their hand like every other club member. If you start sending them to other games to umpire I'd think the numbers would dwindle very quickly....

[X Runna]

SIMPLE ANSWER. DO NOT let an club umpires officiate their own clubs games. If you continue to applaud complacency and allow these guys to keep going the way they are then thats the leagues fault for nopt listening or looking at an avenue to create a better alternative to the crap that is dished out week in week out.

That's easy to say but hard to do. Most of these club umpires do so to help out their club and enjoy being able to watch another game on the same day with a beer in their hand like every other club member. If you start sending them to other games to umpire I'd think the numbers would dwindle very quickly....

I KNOW we would lose at least 1 of our 2 club umpires, and probably both, instantly. It is hard enough now trying to find umpires to fill in occasionally, imagine how hard it would be to get another umpire or two to do it on a permanent basis, and then to tell them they won't be umpiring our games...............

[Choccies]

The C grade umpires were pretty good I thought. Alot better than the ones we have had in the B's !! I thought the score didn't do PH much justice in the C's. Thought you boys tried pretty hard and had a good crack at it.... Had a bit of a chat with a few boys playing down back... good lads

[kickinit]

Flinders Park 10 10 0 0 1242 278 20 81.7%
SMOSH West Lakes 10 9 0 1 1223 398 18 75.4%
Mitcham 10 7 0 3 765 610 14 55.6%
Golden Grove 10 6 0 4 771 618 12 55.5%
Portland 10 6 0 4 663 691 12 49%
Pembroke OS 10 4 0 6 638 714 8 47.2%
Seaton Ramblers 10 3 0 7 565 733 6 43.5%
Pooraka 10 3 0 7 570 997 6 36.4%
Para Hills 10 2 0 8 452 964 4 31.9%
CBCOC 10 0 0 10 260 1146 0 18.5%

FP- think they will stay top but certainly after there last 2 games they are beatable, cant wait for them to play Portland, think they what it takes to keep up with them and might make the finals interesting
Smosh- could loose second to Mitcham but would have to loose to Mitcham and Flinders but there is a big percentage gap
Mitcham- Look to be playing some good footy think they would expect to not loose another game and have some big wins to try and take 2.
Golden Grove- have won there last 4 and snatched 4th of Portland, will be interesting to see how they go against the top teams to see if they really haved improved think they will finish 5
Portland- Took it up to smosh on the weekend which is a hughe effort, think they will have 4th all wrapped up
Pembroke- havent been close to anyone in the top 5 to finish 6
Seaton- what is happening out there Satchel did you swap players with seaton at the start of the year thought they would of won more games then they have. 7 game loosing streak things aint looking good down there, finish 8
pooraka- think they will take 7 off seaton
para Hills- bit like seaton thought they would be towards the top to finish second to bottom
CBC- think they will win a game and think it will Seaton that gives it to them they have the spoon all tied up.



Would really like to see Mitcham take it to Smosh and Portland to Flinders will make it a cracker come finals time and not 2 sides like I first thought.

[SATCHEL]

Fair and accurate on all behalfs mate. Not much wrong in there at all. I spose the most dissapointed sides would be Para Hills and Seaton. Good clubs taht have previously had big wins and constant wins on the board but nothing this year. I have only removed one pklayer from Seaton mate and he used to play for us anyway so he just wanted to come home no matter how much Seaton hated me for it
Other than that the top 4 is sewn up i think. I cant see much chnage from where it is now. The big challenge will be for 5th spot and if we can hold onto it. Looking forward to the rest of the season and as you have put it when we play FP in 2 weeks time. It shows where we are at witht the loss to SMOSH a great side with great depth and to go down by 4 points hurts to the wazoo but we should be able to pick up the pieces this week against CBC. Just because a side is at the bottom of the ladder doesnt mean you take the game any differently. They will be just as hungry and probly more so to get a win on the board. We have not put a side away this year which has hurt our confidence. By taht i mean we have not won a game by more than 14 goals like some sides have done this year. Not only percentage at stake but confidence will help going into FP and beyond. I can promise you that PH, GG, Seaton and Pembroke all sides we have beaten will want some back and we need to be prpared to take them back on headon like earlier in the year.

[Wild Thing]

There may be a few surprises in store for Portland this week. Big game for CBC with club stalwart Garry Winter playing his 250th

[kickinit]

There may be a few surprises in store for Portland this week. Big game for CBC with club stalwart Garry Winter playing his 250th

So a few players coming out of retirement? They would need a bit of talent by the way there been performing this year

[Killa]

There may be a few surprises in store for Portland this week. Big game for CBC with club stalwart Garry Winter playing his 250th

So a few players coming out of retirement? They would need a bit of talent by the way there been performing this year

Heard on a grape vine one of the players coming out of retirement is a AFL Hall of famer?

[SATCHEL]

smoke and mirrors i guess until Saturday. We wont be taking them lightly as ive put it. Unless you guys on here have the pair to actually name them or is it just as ive said before just smoke and mirrors? I will say that it will take more than just one or two to make a difference like Kick said. All fun and games i love it wish it was Saturday tomorrow

[kickinit]

smoke and mirrors i guess until Saturday. We wont be taking them lightly as ive put it. Unless you guys on here have the pair to actually name them or is it just as ive said before just smoke and mirrors? I will say that it will take more than just one or two to make a difference like Kick said. All fun and games i love it wish it was Saturday tomorrow

yep spot on mate if your going to come on here and say there a player coming out name names. and I don't think a ex afl hall of fame is going to make a difference when you got belted by 100 points to a side that isn't going to make finals

[Wild Thing]

I didn't say anything about any specific players playing or making a difference, all I said was there may be a few surprises and it was a big milestone game - they could all be playing the game in red clown wigs - that would be a surprise. I do know that the goal machine Aran Kilpatrick is playing though. It would be embarrasing if you lost though......

[SATCHEL]

GG v FP this will be a good game seeing its up at GG. I think FP will get over the line. I feel some sides are starting to work out FP but i dont think they will drop any still. FP 4-5 goals on the wet ground low scoring.
Mitchm v PH Not going to be a good day for PH unless they can be first to the ball and play in front. Unless they do taht i think Mitcham could run away with this one at home. Mitcham by 10 goals +
Pooraka v Smosh After last week i think SMOSH will bounce back and it will be unfortunate for Pooraka that they will be the ones at the end of it. Pooraka will need to shut down 1, 3 and 5 from last week. If Pooraka has a decent FB or willing to drop their B grade FB Hanson could put on a display. If SMOSH do this they will win comfortably by 10-15 goals +
Pembroke v Seaton Will be a good game apart from the ground its played on. Lets hope Pembroke bring all the things necessary to the game. I reckon Seaton may bounce back and have a win here. Seaton 4-5 goals
Portland V CBC Big game for us. After a tight 4 point loss to one of the 2 pace setters for the season we are confident but CBC could use the so called noteriety of milestones to pump them up a bit. As ive put earlier its not going to be looked at as 5th vs 10th or that we will thump them. Its a level playing field as far as im concerned. I would like to think we will come away with the points to help set up the last 9 weeks but you never in footy. I am quietly confident we should win this and with some health behind it

[kickinit]

GG v FP this will be a good game seeing its up at GG. I think FP will get over the line. I feel some sides are starting to work out FP but i dont think they will drop any still. FP 4-5 goals on the wet ground low scoring.
Mitchm v PH Not going to be a good day for PH unless they can be first to the ball and play in front. Unless they do taht i think Mitcham could run away with this one at home. Mitcham by 10 goals +
Pooraka v Smosh After last week i think SMOSH will bounce back and it will be unfortunate for Pooraka that they will be the ones at the end of it. Pooraka will need to shut down 1, 3 and 5 from last week. If Pooraka has a decent FB or willing to drop their B grade FB Hanson could put on a display. If SMOSH do this they will win comfortably by 10-15 goals +
Pembroke v Seaton Will be a good game apart from the ground its played on. Lets hope Pembroke bring all the things necessary to the game. I reckon Seaton may bounce back and have a win here. Seaton 4-5 goals
Portland V CBC Big game for us. After a tight 4 point loss to one of the 2 pace setters for the season we are confident but CBC could use the so called noteriety of milestones to pump them up a bit. As ive put earlier its not going to be looked at as 5th vs 10th or that we will thump them. Its a level playing field as far as im concerned. I would like to think we will come away with the points to help set up the last 9 weeks but you never in footy. I am quietly confident we should win this and with some health behind it

I'm not even going to do tips this week as you have summed it up already. my roughie for the week as I always love a roughie Pooraka to beat SMOSH.