SAAFL Div 5 & 5R (2010)

[woodublieve12]

Pretty stupid for Bellman to go to a new club and sign a two year deal straight up ... only got himself to blame really. The Lodge got every right not to let him go to another club that they are going to play against cause the bloke can surely play the game

Central United are not in the same grade but Smithfield are.It doesn't matter because Central United and Brahma Lodge had a meeting tonight and the Lodge will not clear him any where.They are going to make him play at the lodge even if doesn't want to be there.i think he has to stand out or play with the lodge!

why would you want a guy to play at your club if he doesnt want to be there????
obviously not a club person...

[The Bartman]

Pretty stupid for Bellman to go to a new club and sign a two year deal straight up ... only got himself to blame really. The Lodge got every right not to let him go to another club that they are going to play against cause the bloke can surely play the game

Central United are not in the same grade but Smithfield are.It doesn't matter because Central United and Brahma Lodge had a meeting tonight and the Lodge will not clear him any where.They are going to make him play at the lodge even if doesn't want to be there.i think he has to stand out or play with the lodge!

why would you want a guy to play at your club if he doesnt want to be there????
obviously not a club person...

Yeah I agree. At the end of the day its not AFL. Why would you want a guy at your club if he doesn't want to be there and then why stand in his way when he wants to go elsewhere??

[lovetotalkfooty]

Pretty stupid for Bellman to go to a new club and sign a two year deal straight up ... only got himself to blame really. The Lodge got every right not to let him go to another club that they are going to play against cause the bloke can surely play the game

Central United are not in the same grade but Smithfield are.It doesn't matter because Central United and Brahma Lodge had a meeting tonight and the Lodge will not clear him any where.They are going to make him play at the lodge even if doesn't want to be there.i think he has to stand out or play with the lodge!

Must be hard getting second hand infomation. Maybe it might pay you to ring Ian himself and get him to answer where he wants to play in 2010. Brahma Lodge just want the best for Ian and want Ian to make a decision about his football and what HE wants. No P***ing in his pocket, just what he wants.
As for the two year contract. There is only one player that has signed a contract of more than 1 year and that is shane brown. Contract for life, no get out clause. Ian signed a new 1 year deal with the club late last year.

This is the last from Brahma Lodge on the Ian bellman saga.

[woodublieve12]

Pretty stupid for Bellman to go to a new club and sign a two year deal straight up ... only got himself to blame really. The Lodge got every right not to let him go to another club that they are going to play against cause the bloke can surely play the game

Central United are not in the same grade but Smithfield are.It doesn't matter because Central United and Brahma Lodge had a meeting tonight and the Lodge will not clear him any where.They are going to make him play at the lodge even if doesn't want to be there.i think he has to stand out or play with the lodge!

why would you want a guy to play at your club if he doesnt want to be there????
obviously not a club person...

Yeah I agree. At the end of the day its not AFL. Why would you want a guy at your club if he doesn't want to be there and then why stand in his way when he wants to go elsewhere??

correct... i know i wouldnt want a guy in my team or club if he was at my club....
can a Blodge person comment on this? will it bother them bein in the same team as a guy who doesnt wanna be there? or it want bother them?

[woodublieve12]

Pretty stupid for Bellman to go to a new club and sign a two year deal straight up ... only got himself to blame really. The Lodge got every right not to let him go to another club that they are going to play against cause the bloke can surely play the game

Central United are not in the same grade but Smithfield are.It doesn't matter because Central United and Brahma Lodge had a meeting tonight and the Lodge will not clear him any where.They are going to make him play at the lodge even if doesn't want to be there.i think he has to stand out or play with the lodge!

Must be hard getting second hand infomation. Maybe it might pay you to ring Ian himself and get him to answer where he wants to play in 2010. Brahma Lodge just want the best for Ian and want Ian to make a decision about his football and what HE wants. No P***ing in his pocket, just what he wants.
As for the two year contract. There is only one player that has signed a contract of more than 1 year and that is shane brown. Contract for life, no get out clause. Ian signed a new 1 year deal with the club late last year.

This is the last from Brahma Lodge on the Ian bellman saga.

my bad. posted my comment before reading this... apology's

[Demon Juke]

Pretty stupid for Bellman to go to a new club and sign a two year deal straight up ... only got himself to blame really. The Lodge got every right not to let him go to another club that they are going to play against cause the bloke can surely play the game

Central United are not in the same grade but Smithfield are.It doesn't matter because Central United and Brahma Lodge had a meeting tonight and the Lodge will not clear him any where.They are going to make him play at the lodge even if doesn't want to be there.i think he has to stand out or play with the lodge!

Must be hard getting second hand infomation. Maybe it might pay you to ring Ian himself and get him to answer where he wants to play in 2010. Brahma Lodge just want the best for Ian and want Ian to make a decision about his football and what HE wants. No P***ing in his pocket, just what he wants.
As for the two year contract. There is only one player that has signed a contract of more than 1 year and that is shane brown. Contract for life, no get out clause. Ian signed a new 1 year deal with the club late last year.

This is the last from Brahma Lodge on the Ian bellman saga.

No second hand information, did a meeting take place tonight at the lodge between Central United(coach) and the lodge?I agree Ian needs to make his mind up and stick to it, but he has got not much choice if the lodge have said play with us or not at all! At least you did not try say he owes cricket fees like you did with another player!

[zedman]

if they want to go just let them go..its wasted effort trying to convince someone to stay if they dont want to..move on..you got 40-50 other guys to worry about..

[Lightning McQueen]

Pretty stupid for Bellman to go to a new club and sign a two year deal straight up ... only got himself to blame really. The Lodge got every right not to let him go to another club that they are going to play against cause the bloke can surely play the game

Central United are not in the same grade but Smithfield are.It doesn't matter because Central United and Brahma Lodge had a meeting tonight and the Lodge will not clear him any where.They are going to make him play at the lodge even if doesn't want to be there.i think he has to stand out or play with the lodge!

Must be hard getting second hand infomation. Maybe it might pay you to ring Ian himself and get him to answer where he wants to play in 2010. Brahma Lodge just want the best for Ian and want Ian to make a decision about his football and what HE wants. No P***ing in his pocket, just what he wants.
As for the two year contract. There is only one player that has signed a contract of more than 1 year and that is shane brown. Contract for life, no get out clause. Ian signed a new 1 year deal with the club late last year.

This is the last from Brahma Lodge on the Ian bellman saga.

Mate, you are talking crap.

[mypaddock]

if they want to go just let them go..its wasted effort trying to convince someone to stay if they dont want to..move on..you got 40-50 other guys to worry about..

Agreed, I think it's just petty when clubs hold players clearances back. After all this is amateur sport, not AFL as another poster mentioned. The guy has probably lost most of the respect from the playing group anyway for wanting to leave, so no point in keeping him. Perennial club hoppers are of no use to anyone.

[Lightning McQueen]

if they want to go just let them go..its wasted effort trying to convince someone to stay if they dont want to..move on..you got 40-50 other guys to worry about..

Agreed, I think it's just petty when clubs hold players clearances back. After all this is amateur sport, not AFL as another poster mentioned. The guy has probably lost most of the respect from the playing group anyway for wanting to leave, so no point in keeping him. Perennial club hoppers are of no use to anyone.

FWIW, Bellman played all of his juniors at Smithfield, he didn't get along very well with the previous A grade coach, when it appeared as though the coach wasn't going anywhere in a hurry he went to Angle Vale where his mate Steve Dejager was their inaugural coach in 2008.
He played for Brahma Lodge last season as a preference to playing div 7 and he was impressed with the attitude, structure etc. they had to offer.
Oldy and Smithfield F.C parted company in October last season where Joss Denenglese has now taken over as A Grade coach, once Ian found this out, he was keen to return to his home club.
He is NOT a perennial club hopper, he had tried out for Eastern Park in 2007 and in the same year he played a few games in Mt. Gambier for some big bucks as he was starting a family, he didn't like the travel and played out the rest of the season at Smithfield.
There are divided opinions within Brahma Lodge of what they should do with him so for anyone to generalise the situation would not be an accurate synopsis.

[whufc]

Brahma are well in their rights to hold him back if he has his signed a one year contract with them. To many players in all levels of football don't respect the signature of a contract, they just sign the team that comes at them with the most money and don't think about the consquences. Geez he signed for Mt Gambier and then left them mid season because of the travel. Where the f**k did he think Mt Gambier was.

If players want to be treated and paid like pros then there needs to be more onus on them to secure the right contract first up, i think they forget a contract is a binding legal document between the two parties not just a verbal agreement.

[Lightning McQueen]

Brahma are well in their rights to hold him back if he has his signed a one year contract with them. To many players in all levels of football don't respect the signature of a contract, they just sign the team that comes at them with the most money and don't think about the consquences. Geez he signed for Mt Gambier and then left them mid season because of the travel. Where the f**k did he think Mt Gambier was.

If players want to be treated and paid like pros then there needs to be more onus on them to secure the right contract first up, i think they forget a contract is a binding legal document between the two parties not just a verbal agreement.

He thought he'd be flying down there in the morning and coming back that night, he diodn't realize it was a whole weekend away from his family.
Bellman isn't chasing the bucks, Brahma's didn't give him the world, neither did Angle Vale, we certainly haven't offered anything.

[whufc]

Brahma are well in their rights to hold him back if he has his signed a one year contract with them. To many players in all levels of football don't respect the signature of a contract, they just sign the team that comes at them with the most money and don't think about the consquences. Geez he signed for Mt Gambier and then left them mid season because of the travel. Where the f**k did he think Mt Gambier was.

If players want to be treated and paid like pros then there needs to be more onus on them to secure the right contract first up, i think they forget a contract is a binding legal document between the two parties not just a verbal agreement.

He thought he'd be flying down there in the morning and coming back that night, he diodn't realize it was a whole weekend away from his family.
Bellman isn't chasing the bucks, Brahma's didn't give him the world, neither did Angle Vale, we certainly haven't offered anything.

Shouldn't that be something that is written into a contract before you sign one. If they then broke the contract you have every reason to leave.

I don't have a problem with players breaking contracts and wanting to move if they are true amatuers 'not getting paid anything' BUT the second you start recieving money for your services you are their employee.

[Demon Juke]

Brahma are well in their rights to hold him back if he has his signed a one year contract with them. To many players in all levels of football don't respect the signature of a contract, they just sign the team that comes at them with the most money and don't think about the consquences. Geez he signed for Mt Gambier and then left them mid season because of the travel. Where the f**k did he think Mt Gambier was.

If players want to be treated and paid like pros then there needs to be more onus on them to secure the right contract first up, i think they forget a contract is a binding legal document between the two parties not just a verbal agreement.

He thought he'd be flying down there in the morning and coming back that night, he diodn't realize it was a whole weekend away from his family.
Bellman isn't chasing the bucks, Brahma's didn't give him the world, neither did Angle Vale, we certainly haven't offered anything.

Agree if he was after money he would stay at Brahma Lodge, He only wanted to go Central United after he could not get back to Smithfield.

[whufc]

if they want to go just let them go..its wasted effort trying to convince someone to stay if they dont want to..move on..you got 40-50 other guys to worry about..

Agreed, I think it's just petty when clubs hold players clearances back. After all this is amateur sport, not AFL as another poster mentioned. The guy has probably lost most of the respect from the playing group anyway for wanting to leave, so no point in keeping him. Perennial club hoppers are of no use to anyone.

This is the other one that cracks me up, amatuer players are quick to use that line so often yet why is it most 'A' Grade footballers are being paid money these days, doesn't sound very amatuer.

[Lightning McQueen]

if they want to go just let them go..its wasted effort trying to convince someone to stay if they dont want to..move on..you got 40-50 other guys to worry about..

Agreed, I think it's just petty when clubs hold players clearances back. After all this is amateur sport, not AFL as another poster mentioned. The guy has probably lost most of the respect from the playing group anyway for wanting to leave, so no point in keeping him. Perennial club hoppers are of no use to anyone.

This is the other one that cracks me up, amatuer players are quick to use that line so often yet why is it most 'A' Grade footballers are being paid money these days, doesn't sound very amatuer.

Most A grade footballers are getting paid????? Maybe in the top 3 divvies mate.

[whufc]

if they want to go just let them go..its wasted effort trying to convince someone to stay if they dont want to..move on..you got 40-50 other guys to worry about..

Agreed, I think it's just petty when clubs hold players clearances back. After all this is amateur sport, not AFL as another poster mentioned. The guy has probably lost most of the respect from the playing group anyway for wanting to leave, so no point in keeping him. Perennial club hoppers are of no use to anyone.

This is the other one that cracks me up, amatuer players are quick to use that line so often yet why is it most 'A' Grade footballers are being paid money these days, doesn't sound very amatuer.

Most A grade footballers are getting paid????? Maybe in the top 3 divvies mate.

or at Brahma, or Elizabeth, there would be blokes getting paid at Smithfield, come on Lightning

[Lightning McQueen]

Most A grade footballers are getting paid????? Maybe in the top 3 divvies mate.

or at Brahma, or Elizabeth, there would be blokes getting paid at Smithfield, come on Lightning

You are welcome to check our books any day mate. One person gets paid, the coach, if he's parting with his money then that's his perogative.

[whufc]

Most A grade footballers are getting paid????? Maybe in the top 3 divvies mate.

or at Brahma, or Elizabeth, there would be blokes getting paid at Smithfield, come on Lightning

You are welcome to check our books any day mate. One person gets paid, the coach, if he's parting with his money then that's his perogative.

I love that one thats what happens at all amatuer soccer clubs including a big club in the North.
president comment. "we pay our coach 10k if he chooses to spend all that back on players well that his choice, not the clubs"

Love amatuer sport these days.

[BenchedEagle]

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Most A grade footballers are getting paid????? Maybe in the top 3 divvies mate.

or at Brahma, or Elizabeth, there would be blokes getting paid at Smithfield, come on Lightning

We pay in cans of coke. Im sure Smithfield are the same. There are also incentives to those who play well, but pretty certain all of that money heads straight back over the bar