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Re: 2022 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 10:15 am
by LaughingKookaburra
jo172 wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Even stranger Im told he actually isn't taking any match payments


That would tend to suggest a little perjury that would be far far more serious (such that whoever told you is presumably wrong)


They would also become the first local club in history throughout Australia that tells fibs about paying a player(s) when they actually don’t :lol:

Re: 2022 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:33 am
by Bluedemon
I read that the AdlFL will re-charge Jesse White the 3 games after the Supreme court overturned the orginal decision

Re: 2022 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:45 am
by The Bedge
Bluedemon wrote:I read that the AdlFL will re-charge Jesse White the 3 games after the Supreme court overturned the orginal decision

Maybe they can charge him 2 games + 2 suspended.. then everyone wins.

Re: 2022 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 12:10 pm
by Down the Hill
Whilst most are not comfortable with a community sports issue ending up in the Supreme Court - my take on the whole matter is that the judge wasn't being asked to rule on the player's guilt or the appropriate number of weeks suspended. His jurisdiction was to to determine if the AdFL had used due process and followed a consistent approach with other suspension considerations of recent years. I assume evidence was tendered to show that many suspensions for a player with no prior history includes a "suspended" component and that the player was challenging that aspect of his suspension rather than guilt. It seems the player believes a suspension of 2(1) is the maximum he should have been offered which would have allowed him to play his 4th match tomorrow. So the ruling does not mean the league got things wrong in finding the player guilty which is also supported by the players plea. And lets face it - the video evidence supports a guilty plea and finding. It just means the original MRP / Tribunal decision has been invalidated but does not prevent the league from re-hearing the matter which is what media reports indicate they will be doing tonight. I'm just glad I'm not in the shoes of those sitting in judgement.

Re: 2022 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 12:33 pm
by Trader
Down the Hill wrote:Whilst most are not comfortable with a community sports issue ending up in the Supreme Court - my take on the whole matter is that the judge wasn't being asked to rule on the player's guilt or the appropriate number of weeks suspended. His jurisdiction was to to determine if the AdFL had used due process and followed a consistent approach with other suspension considerations of recent years. I assume evidence was tendered to show that many suspensions for a player with no prior history includes a "suspended" component and that the player was challenging that aspect of his suspension rather than guilt. It seems the player believes a suspension of 2(1) is the maximum he should have been offered which would have allowed him to play his 4th match tomorrow. So the ruling does not mean the league got things wrong in finding the player guilty which is also supported by the players plea. And lets face it - the video evidence supports a guilty plea and finding. It just means the original MRP / Tribunal decision has been invalidated but does not prevent the league from re-hearing the matter which is what media reports indicate they will be doing tonight. I'm just glad I'm not in the shoes of those sitting in judgement.


I don't disagree with your assessment.

Equally, I think its strange that a judge is asked to assume what the 3 members of the AdFL tribunal were thinking when they landed on the 3 games.
Your view that they could have suspended a portion of it is a reasonable assumption to come to.

But equally, how do we not know that rather than concluding they were being harsher by not suspending a portion of it it, who's to say that they were extremely lenient and actually removed it all together. IE: He would have gotten 4 on its own, that becomes 3 + (1) with his good history, and the tribunal found that given his clean record included a large portion of AFL where you get done for the most trivial of matters, and therefore his clean recorded is worth even more of a discount, so dropped it back to just 3 on its own.

Passing judgement on facts is difficult enough.
Passing judgement on judgement is just a guessing game in my opinion.

Re: 2022 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 2:43 pm
by Arch44
Armchair expert wrote:Todays Case List
Case 1. Murder
Case 2. Attempted Murder
Case 3. Guy wants to play football
Case 4. Domestic Violence

I mean seriously what a waste of the courts time


Comfortably the best post on this.

Re: 2022 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 4:02 pm
by whufc
Am I the only one that finds it slightly ironic that you can take a suspension handed to you to court.

Yet the act committed which if you did at a pub would potentially be considered assault (admitting this isn't the most violent act ever seen on a footy field) doesn't or generally wouldn't get looked at in court.

Re: 2022 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 4:19 pm
by Footy Chick
whufc wrote:Am I the only one that finds it slightly ironic that you can take a suspension handed to you to court.

Yet the act committed which if you did at a pub would potentially be considered assault (admitting this isn't the most violent act ever seen on a footy field) doesn't or generally wouldn't get looked at in court.



It's not the suspension itself -it's the process they were taken to court for.

Re: 2022 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 4:23 pm
by whufc
Footy Chick wrote:
whufc wrote:Am I the only one that finds it slightly ironic that you can take a suspension handed to you to court.

Yet the act committed which if you did at a pub would potentially be considered assault (admitting this isn't the most violent act ever seen on a footy field) doesn't or generally wouldn't get looked at in court.



It's not the suspension itself -it's the process they were taken to court for.


Point still stands you can take the process they used to court yet the act that led to the process being used would not be tolerated in general society.

Re: 2022 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 4:27 pm
by Bluedemon
I see Broadview havent name their team yet, I thought this was meant to all on line by Friday 12pm

Re: 2022 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 4:33 pm
by locky801
Bluedemon wrote:I see Broadview havent name their team yet, I thought this was meant to all on line by Friday 12pm


very rarely is :roll: but i can tell ya my lad got dropped from the B's to the C's if that helps :evil:

Re: 2022 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 5:35 pm
by Senor Moto Gadili
locky801 wrote:
Bluedemon wrote:I see Broadview havent name their team yet, I thought this was meant to all on line by Friday 12pm


very rarely is :roll: but i can tell ya my lad got dropped from the B's to the C's if that helps :evil:

Outrageous .... he should call his lawyer!

Re: 2022 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 6:09 pm
by locky801
Senor Moto Gadili wrote:
locky801 wrote:
Bluedemon wrote:I see Broadview havent name their team yet, I thought this was meant to all on line by Friday 12pm


very rarely is :roll: but i can tell ya my lad got dropped from the B's to the C's if that helps :evil:

Outrageous .... he should call his lawyer!


nah we accept the decision made ;)

Re: 2022 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:28 pm
by scottroo
Tribunal sitting tonight!

Re: 2022 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:43 pm
by woodublieve12
It’s been overturned. Free to play

Re: 2022 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:53 pm
by Senor Moto Gadili
woodublieve12 wrote:It’s been overturned. Free to play

"Overturned" .... what does that mean? I assume he was still guilty, but only suspended for 2 games?

Re: 2022 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 10:46 pm
by bubba love
What a disgrace

Re: 2022 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 10:46 pm
by bubba love
What a disgrace

Re: 2022 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 10:59 pm
by blublurag
Absolute disgrace.

Re: 2022 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:13 pm
by bubba love
You’re a big bunch of flogs broadview