SAAFL Div 3 & 3R (2010)

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Who will win the 2010 Flag

CBCOC
14
6%
Kilburn
12
5%
Mitcham
12
5%
Old Ignatians
20
9%
PAOC
32
15%
Para Hills
37
17%
Portland
21
10%
Scotch OC
6
3%
Seaton Ramblers
47
21%
SMOSH
19
9%
 
Total votes : 220

Re: SAAFL Div 3 & 3R (2010)

Postby blackcat » Fri May 07, 2010 8:19 pm

Hardy Hit wrote:
chram88 wrote:Smosh v mitcham was a good game on sat. mitcham played good footy and will push any side who take them lightly. the first half went mitchams way and smosh probably took the second half.
tucker and quin, were very good for mitcham, as well as number 19 up forward, whitey i think, was a star.


They would have wanted to play well... especially whitey... As a lot of quality players should hopefully be coming back into the side from injuries this week :) :P

Noticed only 2 changes from last week? Still injuries or nearly at full strength?
In's, Sulkowski and Flanigan. Outs, Hicks and Rieger
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Re: SAAFL Div 3 & 3R (2010)

Postby Hardy Hit » Fri May 07, 2010 9:48 pm

blackcat wrote:
Hardy Hit wrote:
chram88 wrote:Smosh v mitcham was a good game on sat. mitcham played good footy and will push any side who take them lightly. the first half went mitchams way and smosh probably took the second half.
tucker and quin, were very good for mitcham, as well as number 19 up forward, whitey i think, was a star.


They would have wanted to play well... especially whitey... As a lot of quality players should hopefully be coming back into the side from injuries this week :) :P

Noticed only 2 changes from last week? Still injuries or nearly at full strength?
In's, Sulkowski and Flanigan. Outs, Hicks and Rieger


Probably one of the stronger sides we've put on the park this year. Sulkowski and flanigan are 2 big Ins. Should be a good game tomorrow!
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Re: SAAFL Div 3 & 3R (2010)

Postby Spider » Sat May 08, 2010 2:57 am

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/tw ... 5863859094

Breaking news
Two shot at football club in Adelaide: police


TWO people have been shot at the Kilburn Football Club in Adelaide's north, police said.

Police say two males, whose age is unknown, sustained non-life threatening injuries in the shooting at the Lionel Avenue venue about 8.30pm last night.


Police are searching for two suspects seen leaving the area.
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Re: SAAFL Div 3 & 3R (2010)

Postby Big Block » Sat May 08, 2010 9:01 am

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Re: SAAFL Div 3 & 3R (2010)

Postby macca 21 » Sat May 08, 2010 10:00 am

Spider wrote:http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/two-shot-at-football-club-in-adelaide-police/story-e6frfku0-1225863859094

Breaking news
Two shot at football club in Adelaide: police


TWO people have been shot at the Kilburn Football Club in Adelaide's north, police said.

Police say two males, whose age is unknown, sustained non-life threatening injuries in the shooting at the Lionel Avenue venue about 8.30pm last night.


Police are searching for two suspects seen leaving the area.


8 men sitting on a rug drinking at 8.30pm at night on a Friday? Surely that is a little unusual and there is a lot more to this story ....
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Re: SAAFL Div 3 & 3R (2010)

Postby blackcat » Sat May 08, 2010 6:27 pm

Mitcham up by 6 points, last kick of the game.
Absolutely disgraceful performance by both umpires but especially the female. I know it might smack of sour grapes but I dont give a fork. She single handedly cost Para Hills the game. Mitcham probably played better footy but you cant excuse the performance of the umps. GET IT RIGHT SHADIAC, no more academy umps in div 3, we've had enough.
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Re: SAAFL Div 3 & 3R (2010)

Postby S Demon » Sat May 08, 2010 7:09 pm

Div 3
Prince Alfred OC 13.12 90 v 10.09 69 CBCOC
Seaton Ramblers 14.10 94 v 16.05 101 SMOSH West Lakes
Old Ignatians 16.15 111 v 10.04 64 Scotch OC
Kilburn 10.08 68 v 14.08 92 Portland
Mitcham 15.15 105 v 15.09 99 Para Hills

Div 3R
Prince Alfred OC 16.16 112 v 07.05 47 CBCOC
Seaton Ramblers 07.11 53 v 08.06 54 SMOSH West Lakes
Old Ignatians 15.05 95 v 09.06 60 Scotch OC
Kilburn 11.08 74 v 12.10 82 Portland
Mitcham 12.13 85 v 08.04 52 Para Hills
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Re: SAAFL Div 3 & 3R (2010)

Postby Top End » Sat May 08, 2010 8:30 pm

Great win by the Lakers boys today - sensational stuff
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Re: SAAFL Div 3 & 3R (2010)

Postby barbs » Sat May 08, 2010 11:48 pm

blackcat wrote:Mitcham up by 6 points, last kick of the game.
Absolutely disgraceful performance by both umpires but especially the female. I know it might smack of sour grapes but I dont give a fork. She single handedly cost Para Hills the game. Mitcham probably played better footy but you cant excuse the performance of the umps. GET IT RIGHT SHADIAC, no more academy umps in div 3, we've had enough.


You are kidding yourself if you blame umpires for a loss. Where would these other 10 umpires magically appear from? Work to what they are doing.
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Re: SAAFL Div 3 & 3R (2010)

Postby unknown source » Sun May 09, 2010 2:31 am

Top End wrote:Great win by the Lakers boys today - sensational stuff


is that it? was it a good game?
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Re: SAAFL Div 3 & 3R (2010)

Postby blackcat » Sun May 09, 2010 10:10 am

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Re: SAAFL Div 3 & 3R (2010)

Postby Newman » Sun May 09, 2010 10:45 am

blackcat wrote:Mitcham up by 6 points, last kick of the game.
Absolutely disgraceful performance by both umpires but especially the female. I know it might smack of sour grapes but I dont give a fork. She single handedly cost Para Hills the game. Mitcham probably played better footy but you cant excuse the performance of the umps. GET IT RIGHT SHADIAC, no more academy umps in div 3, we've had enough.


Perhaps you should get your footy director to write a letter of complaint, he seems very good at writing letters i read one of his last night COMICAL is probably a word that comes to mind. :oops:
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Re: SAAFL Div 3 & 3R (2010)

Postby NO-MERCY » Sun May 09, 2010 10:59 am

SMOSH v Seaton game was an even game with a few momentum swings, SMOSH were out the blocks quickly with 2 goals in 2 mins due to Cibich surprisingly starting at full forward, Seaton wormed their way back to be a goal down qtr time.
The 2nd qtr was all SMOSH & went in at half time 4 & a bit goals up.
Seaton regained their composure at half time to dominate the 3rd qtr, dominating the clearances & should of been a few goals up with 12 more inside 50s than SMOSH but trailed by a few points.
Fatigue set in late in the last qtr for Seaton after being given a very solid work out tuesday night.
SMOSH made less mistakes than the Rams which is why the result favoured SMOSH at full time.
Dissappointing loss for Seaton players, supporters & club but take into consideration the smashing they were on the end of last week , it was alot better effort as far as intensity's concerned, atleast they showed some heart.
Turn overs were the talking point of the day for Seaton who ended up with 12 more inside 50s than SMOSH, even under no pressure they found a way to hit SMOSH players to often by foot.
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Re: SAAFL Div 3 & 3R (2010)

Postby aceman » Sun May 09, 2010 11:09 am

Spider wrote:http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/two-shot-at-football-club-in-adelaide-police/story-e6frfku0-1225863859094

Breaking news
Two shot at football club in Adelaide: police


TWO people have been shot at the Kilburn Football Club in Adelaide's north, police said.

Police say two males, whose age is unknown, sustained non-life threatening injuries in the shooting at the Lionel Avenue venue about 8.30pm last night.


Police are searching for two suspects seen leaving the area.



Info tells me Lebanese versus Sudanese, nothing to do with the footy club and unnecessary publicity for them.
Why couldn't the Advertiser have used the term Blair Athol Reserve 'cause half of the state wouldn't even know there was a link to any club.
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Re: SAAFL Div 3 & 3R (2010)

Postby Who's Ball? » Sun May 09, 2010 2:22 pm

blackcat wrote:Mitcham up by 6 points, last kick of the game.
Absolutely disgraceful performance by both umpires but especially the female. I know it might smack of sour grapes but I dont give a fork. She single handedly cost Para Hills the game. Mitcham probably played better footy but you cant excuse the performance of the umps. GET IT RIGHT SHADIAC, no more academy umps in div 3, we've had enough.



Sigh

Another week, another person whinging about umpires

Hands up here who has actually umpired? And by that, I don't mean they've grabbed a whistle to fill in when their club has needed it, I mean actually umpired for a league, been through league training, and worked their way through umpiring juniors, under 18's, reserves and seniors? I have, I've done just over 200 games all up, and hearing people bitch about a decision costing them a game gives me the shits.

How many mistakes are made by your players during a game, which influence the result? The full forward who grasses a chest mark or who misses an easy set shot at goal. The backman who's tackle slips a little high, or who chops an arm and gives away a free kick which results in a goal. A midfielder who coughs it up to an opponent, or misses an easy tackle? Stacks of times. But 1 decision by an umpire is the reason you lost?? Fair go mate.

Where do you expect umpires to get experience? (And this next bit is an assumption, because I haven't umpired for the saafl), but I'm guessing that the umpires who are being trained in the academy have to work their way up through the leagues, and the better they get, the higher grade they umpire. Hence, PEOPLE UMPIRING DIV 3 AREN'T GOING TO BE AS GOOD AS THOSE UMPIRING DIV 1. Just like the players aren't as good in div 3 as in div 1. And if there is an umpire who is consistantly bad, they'll get dropped to the lower grades, where they can get a bit more experience, a bit more practice and move back up, the same as players.

Like it or not, we're never going to agree with all the decisions that get made on a weekend, I'm guilty of asking umpires about what I think are dubious decisions during a game, but once it's made, bitching isn't going to change anything, all that might happen, is that umpires get sick of doing a job that we need them to do, and quit, so that we're left with club umpires instead of league ones. Tell me that you'd rather have a biased club umpire doing your game each week than a league guy.

If you honestly think the umpires are that bad, and you'd do a better job, there's a simple solution. Head down to the saafl, sign up, do the training, get a whistle and prove it.
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Re: SAAFL Div 3 & 3R (2010)

Postby alcho-pop » Sun May 09, 2010 3:22 pm

Who's Ball? wrote:
blackcat wrote:Mitcham up by 6 points, last kick of the game.
Absolutely disgraceful performance by both umpires but especially the female. I know it might smack of sour grapes but I dont give a fork. She single handedly cost Para Hills the game. Mitcham probably played better footy but you cant excuse the performance of the umps. GET IT RIGHT SHADIAC, no more academy umps in div 3, we've had enough.



Sigh

Another week, another person whinging about umpires

Hands up here who has actually umpired? And by that, I don't mean they've grabbed a whistle to fill in when their club has needed it, I mean actually umpired for a league, been through league training, and worked their way through umpiring juniors, under 18's, reserves and seniors? I have, I've done just over 200 games all up, and hearing people bitch about a decision costing them a game gives me the shits.

How many mistakes are made by your players during a game, which influence the result? The full forward who grasses a chest mark or who misses an easy set shot at goal. The backman who's tackle slips a little high, or who chops an arm and gives away a free kick which results in a goal. A midfielder who coughs it up to an opponent, or misses an easy tackle? Stacks of times. But 1 decision by an umpire is the reason you lost?? Fair go mate.

Where do you expect umpires to get experience? (And this next bit is an assumption, because I haven't umpired for the saafl), but I'm guessing that the umpires who are being trained in the academy have to work their way up through the leagues, and the better they get, the higher grade they umpire. Hence, PEOPLE UMPIRING DIV 3 AREN'T GOING TO BE AS GOOD AS THOSE UMPIRING DIV 1. Just like the players aren't as good in div 3 as in div 1. And if there is an umpire who is consistantly bad, they'll get dropped to the lower grades, where they can get a bit more experience, a bit more practice and move back up, the same as players.

Like it or not, we're never going to agree with all the decisions that get made on a weekend, I'm guilty of asking umpires about what I think are dubious decisions during a game, but once it's made, bitching isn't going to change anything, all that might happen, is that umpires get sick of doing a job that we need them to do, and quit, so that we're left with club umpires instead of league ones. Tell me that you'd rather have a biased club umpire doing your game each week than a league guy.

If you honestly think the umpires are that bad, and you'd do a better job, there's a simple solution. Head down to the saafl, sign up, do the training, get a whistle and prove it.



Dont get me wrong , your post has a lot of merit but never once did blackcat mention one decision cost them the game, the way i interpret what he was saying is the whole performance of the umpires was disgraceful not just 1 instance. In regards to the "bitching" that happens after a poor decision, i do not condone it but IMO an umpire should be thick-skinned enough to not let an idividual doing the wrong thing affect the way he judges the game from there on and in some cases subsequent games he/she umpires that team.
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Re: SAAFL Div 3 & 3R (2010)

Postby Who's Ball? » Sun May 09, 2010 5:14 pm

alcho-pop wrote:
Who's Ball? wrote:
blackcat wrote:Mitcham up by 6 points, last kick of the game.
Absolutely disgraceful performance by both umpires but especially the female. I know it might smack of sour grapes but I dont give a fork. She single handedly cost Para Hills the game. Mitcham probably played better footy but you cant excuse the performance of the umps. GET IT RIGHT SHADIAC, no more academy umps in div 3, we've had enough.



Sigh

Another week, another person whinging about umpires

Hands up here who has actually umpired? And by that, I don't mean they've grabbed a whistle to fill in when their club has needed it, I mean actually umpired for a league, been through league training, and worked their way through umpiring juniors, under 18's, reserves and seniors? I have, I've done just over 200 games all up, and hearing people bitch about a decision costing them a game gives me the shits.

How many mistakes are made by your players during a game, which influence the result? The full forward who grasses a chest mark or who misses an easy set shot at goal. The backman who's tackle slips a little high, or who chops an arm and gives away a free kick which results in a goal. A midfielder who coughs it up to an opponent, or misses an easy tackle? Stacks of times. But 1 decision by an umpire is the reason you lost?? Fair go mate.

Where do you expect umpires to get experience? (And this next bit is an assumption, because I haven't umpired for the saafl), but I'm guessing that the umpires who are being trained in the academy have to work their way up through the leagues, and the better they get, the higher grade they umpire. Hence, PEOPLE UMPIRING DIV 3 AREN'T GOING TO BE AS GOOD AS THOSE UMPIRING DIV 1. Just like the players aren't as good in div 3 as in div 1. And if there is an umpire who is consistantly bad, they'll get dropped to the lower grades, where they can get a bit more experience, a bit more practice and move back up, the same as players.

Like it or not, we're never going to agree with all the decisions that get made on a weekend, I'm guilty of asking umpires about what I think are dubious decisions during a game, but once it's made, bitching isn't going to change anything, all that might happen, is that umpires get sick of doing a job that we need them to do, and quit, so that we're left with club umpires instead of league ones. Tell me that you'd rather have a biased club umpire doing your game each week than a league guy.

If you honestly think the umpires are that bad, and you'd do a better job, there's a simple solution. Head down to the saafl, sign up, do the training, get a whistle and prove it.



Dont get me wrong , your post has a lot of merit but never once did blackcat mention one decision cost them the game, the way i interpret what he was saying is the whole performance of the umpires was disgraceful not just 1 instance. In regards to the "bitching" that happens after a poor decision, i do not condone it but IMO an umpire should be thick-skinned enough to not let an idividual doing the wrong thing affect the way he judges the game from there on and in some cases subsequent games he/she umpires that team.


Different interpretations of the same post I guess, my interpretation was that he was blaming poor umpiring for the fact that his team lost a game by a goal, which infers that there were free kicks blackcat didn't agree with which resulted in goals for Mitcham (or resulted in Para Hills not getting goals). I thought that was a reasonable assumption. My bad.

Again.

Asking umpires about decisions on the ground (yes, we all do it, and most of the time it isn't in the kind of language that we'd use around our mothers - especially on Mothers Day) is part and parcel of the game, and all umpires (and ex-umpires) accept it, and move on with it. The majority will take a few words to explain the decision, and then everyone gets on with the game. If it crosses a line, they'll pay 50m penalties or report you, which shows that most umpires are human and WILL accept a degree of on field criticism and will move on with it, otherwise there'd be no talking on a ground during a game, or 10 50m penalties a quarter.

What I don't think is reasonable, is the shit that umpires cop as they walk off grounds after a game (I'm not saying this happened at the Mitcham Para Hills game, I wasn't there), but it happens in this league and in others. Like it or not, the continual bagging of umpires on forums like this only encourages some people to act like dickheads at the footy and abuse umpires after games, which is a reason that many umpires, including me quit.
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Re: SAAFL Div 3 & 3R (2010)

Postby hanno_7 » Sun May 09, 2010 5:28 pm

Who's Ball? wrote:
blackcat wrote:Mitcham up by 6 points, last kick of the game.
Absolutely disgraceful performance by both umpires but especially the female. I know it might smack of sour grapes but I dont give a fork. She single handedly cost Para Hills the game. Mitcham probably played better footy but you cant excuse the performance of the umps. GET IT RIGHT SHADIAC, no more academy umps in div 3, we've had enough.



Sigh

Another week, another person whinging about umpires

Hands up here who has actually umpired? And by that, I don't mean they've grabbed a whistle to fill in when their club has needed it, I mean actually umpired for a league, been through league training, and worked their way through umpiring juniors, under 18's, reserves and seniors? I have, I've done just over 200 games all up, and hearing people bitch about a decision costing them a game gives me the shits.

How many mistakes are made by your players during a game, which influence the result? The full forward who grasses a chest mark or who misses an easy set shot at goal. The backman who's tackle slips a little high, or who chops an arm and gives away a free kick which results in a goal. A midfielder who coughs it up to an opponent, or misses an easy tackle? Stacks of times. But 1 decision by an umpire is the reason you lost?? Fair go mate.

Where do you expect umpires to get experience? (And this next bit is an assumption, because I haven't umpired for the saafl), but I'm guessing that the umpires who are being trained in the academy have to work their way up through the leagues, and the better they get, the higher grade they umpire. Hence, PEOPLE UMPIRING DIV 3 AREN'T GOING TO BE AS GOOD AS THOSE UMPIRING DIV 1. Just like the players aren't as good in div 3 as in div 1. And if there is an umpire who is consistantly bad, they'll get dropped to the lower grades, where they can get a bit more experience, a bit more practice and move back up, the same as players.

Like it or not, we're never going to agree with all the decisions that get made on a weekend, I'm guilty of asking umpires about what I think are dubious decisions during a game, but once it's made, bitching isn't going to change anything, all that might happen, is that umpires get sick of doing a job that we need them to do, and quit, so that we're left with club umpires instead of league ones. Tell me that you'd rather have a biased club umpire doing your game each week than a league guy.

If you honestly think the umpires are that bad, and you'd do a better job, there's a simple solution. Head down to the saafl, sign up, do the training, get a whistle and prove it.



Consistency is all were after, heres one for ya our player gives away free kick they pay advantage handball on then handball bloke kicks for goal misses so the umpire brings in back and gives original bloke a kick at goal and he slots it now pin head in your wisdom of 200 games wat the f*ck would ur ruling be???
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Re: SAAFL Div 3 & 3R (2010)

Postby Top End » Sun May 09, 2010 6:20 pm

unknown source wrote:
Top End wrote:Great win by the Lakers boys today - sensational stuff


is that it? was it a good game?


no US - magnificent game for the Laker boys to win. Good on Minners and Micky and the boys. And to those who said minners could not coach you are looking stupid now. Great coach. Bring on the rest of the year now
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Re: SAAFL Div 3 & 3R (2010)

Postby aceman » Sun May 09, 2010 6:35 pm

Newman wrote:
blackcat wrote:Mitcham up by 6 points, last kick of the game.
Absolutely disgraceful performance by both umpires but especially the female. I know it might smack of sour grapes but I dont give a fork. She single handedly cost Para Hills the game. Mitcham probably played better footy but you cant excuse the performance of the umps. GET IT RIGHT SHADIAC, no more academy umps in div 3, we've had enough.


Perhaps you should get your footy director to write a letter of complaint, he seems very good at writing letters i read one of his last night COMICAL is probably a word that comes to mind. :oops:



MS does not make the umpiring appointments for a start!
Maybe go to the Umpiring department, Barry Oates is very approachable if it's done the correct way.
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