by morell » Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:16 pm
by FOURTH ESTATE » Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:28 pm
Q. wrote:marbles wrote:If the league drew the line and seperated cgrade teams from agrade teams next season, going to 9 team divisions with the bye (as Q has suggested), would that mean this year in div1, 3 teams would be relegated and 2 would come up?
I only suggested D5, D6 & D7 have nine teams if the league has 27 two-team A-Grade clubs to fill them. Currently I only count 25.
Hypothetically (and given that there are only nine teams in D6 at the moment):
- Two clubs are promoted from D5 to D4, two clubs relegated from D4 to D5
- Two clubs are relegated from D5, but only D6 Premier comes up.
- Adelaide Uni is removed from D6 and placed in C/D divisions. Only one club is relegated from D6 to D7.
- Premier of D7 is promoted to D6.
- Remaining nine sides fill D7.
C/D grade teams fill a D8/D8R and D9/D9R.
by finn » Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:34 pm
by heater31 » Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:36 pm
morell wrote:No way Q. No way at all.
We lost one of our best midfielders in the TTG game. That injury simply would not have happened if we had the bye (even if we did train) and he would have suited up for WOS - which we lost by a kick and a bit.
Make no bones about it CLG and MP have been disadvantaged by this decision. Albeit moderately and its not that big of a deal, but we have been given the slightly more pointy end of the stick.
by marbles » Thu Apr 18, 2013 2:02 pm
by zedman » Thu Apr 18, 2013 2:04 pm
finn wrote:I just hope that TTG don't suddenly get an influx of people as a result of moving down to Div 8....and not only because a Uni side has to play them.
by Q. » Thu Apr 18, 2013 2:41 pm
FOURTH ESTATE wrote:Q. wrote:marbles wrote:If the league drew the line and seperated cgrade teams from agrade teams next season, going to 9 team divisions with the bye (as Q has suggested), would that mean this year in div1, 3 teams would be relegated and 2 would come up?
I only suggested D5, D6 & D7 have nine teams if the league has 27 two-team A-Grade clubs to fill them. Currently I only count 25.
Hypothetically (and given that there are only nine teams in D6 at the moment):
- Two clubs are promoted from D5 to D4, two clubs relegated from D4 to D5
- Two clubs are relegated from D5, but only D6 Premier comes up.
- Adelaide Uni is removed from D6 and placed in C/D divisions. Only one club is relegated from D6 to D7.
- Premier of D7 is promoted to D6.
- Remaining nine sides fill D7.
C/D grade teams fill a D8/D8R and D9/D9R.
One problem with that Adelaide Uni are already in D8/D8R as well as C1 and if they were in D8/D8R & D9/D9R and they won the flag in D9 they could not go up to D8 as per league rules.
Adelaide Uni have always had a side in either D6 or D7 for as long as I can remember and have always been competitive. during the 80's they were in A1/A1R, A4/A4R A7/A7R as well as lower grades.
Food for thought
by morell » Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:06 pm
Personally speaking I reckon I go at about 50% in trials and at about 20% in internal trials. There is no way in hell I would put my body on the line (or the body of a team mate) and get desperate in those games.heater31 wrote:morell wrote:No way Q. No way at all.
We lost one of our best midfielders in the TTG game. That injury simply would not have happened if we had the bye (even if we did train) and he would have suited up for WOS - which we lost by a kick and a bit.
Make no bones about it CLG and MP have been disadvantaged by this decision. Albeit moderately and its not that big of a deal, but we have been given the slightly more pointy end of the stick.
If you did have an early round bye, probably would have had a trial game or internal match. can still do some serious injuries in these games or even at training.
by moses » Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:12 pm
by Sass! » Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:16 pm
by moses » Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:19 pm
Sass! wrote:Not sure how many times your body goes on the line when you are 40 goals up.. i wouldnt be backing into packs late in a game with that kind of margin up my sleeve..
if teams had a bye first up and then lost round 2 they would of come in saying they were underdone and didnt have the same match fitness as the other side that had an extra game to get there structures right..
blaming external factors out of your control instead of internal factors such as skill errors and costly mistakes. I respect what you are tyring to say but i really dont think losing to a side in round 2 can be blamed in the big bad gullies who made you play a game instead of having a bye.
by buckley05 » Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:26 pm
morell wrote:Personally speaking I reckon I go at about 50% in trials and at about 20% in internal trials. There is no way in hell I would put my body on the line (or the body of a team mate) and get desperate in those games.heater31 wrote:morell wrote:No way Q. No way at all.
We lost one of our best midfielders in the TTG game. That injury simply would not have happened if we had the bye (even if we did train) and he would have suited up for WOS - which we lost by a kick and a bit.
Make no bones about it CLG and MP have been disadvantaged by this decision. Albeit moderately and its not that big of a deal, but we have been given the slightly more pointy end of the stick.
If you did have an early round bye, probably would have had a trial game or internal match. can still do some serious injuries in these games or even at training.
For goodness sake I recall letting our full forward (I was playing full back) get on the end of a few in our internal trial to let him practice his goal kicking.
If we had the bye in round 1, Simper plays round 2. We were disadvantaged. To think otherwise is folly.
But big deal, bigger issues to worry about.
by buckley05 » Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:27 pm
scottroo wrote:Carey I actually do agree with you, just annoying that we spent $ and copped injuries from a game that is now not a game
by morell » Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:29 pm
by buckley05 » Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:30 pm
Jugs wrote:scottroo wrote:The clubs that have played them are pissed off, the ones that havnt are happy
I don't see Mitchell Park on here sooking, just the same old people from the same old club!
by morell » Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:32 pm
Look its not a big deal and its all hypothetical.Sass! wrote:Not sure how many times your body goes on the line when you are 40 goals up.. i wouldnt be backing into packs late in a game with that kind of margin up my sleeve..
if teams had a bye first up and then lost round 2 they would of come in saying they were underdone and didnt have the same match fitness as the other side that had an extra game to get there structures right..
blaming external factors out of your control instead of internal factors such as skill errors and costly mistakes. I respect what you are tyring to say but i really dont think losing to a side in round 2 can be blamed in the big bad gullies who made you play a game instead of having a bye.
by TEX07 » Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:41 pm
zedman wrote:finn wrote:I just hope that TTG don't suddenly get an influx of people as a result of moving down to Div 8....and not only because a Uni side has to play them.
watch them come out the woodwork now..
in regards to injuries..we were told by TPTB that the 2 injuries we got from our game, that never happened, would have occurred anyway when we played an internal trial as a replacement!!![]()
by morell » Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:54 pm
Keep digging bucks!buckley05 wrote:Jugs wrote:scottroo wrote:The clubs that have played them are pissed off, the ones that havnt are happy
I don't see Mitchell Park on here sooking, just the same old people from the same old club!
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Mitchell park dont have time to sook Yankman is fitting them all for there premiership T-Shirts after round 2
by Phantom Gossiper » Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:05 pm
morell wrote:We lost one of our best midfielders in the TTG game. That injury simply would not have happened if we had the bye (even if we did train) and he would have suited up for WOS - which we lost by a kick and a bit.
Make no bones about it CLG and MP have been disadvantaged by this decision. Albeit moderately and its not that big of a deal, but we have been given the slightly more pointy end of the stick.
by Phantom Gossiper » Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:09 pm
morell wrote:But we have had to play an extra game. No other way you look at it that's a disadvantage!
Come finals time do you reckon they give the top side an extra game, or a week off? Why is it considered at advantage at in the year but not now?
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