SAAFL Div 3 & Div 3R (2011)

[Hardy Hit]

on the smosh game, if it were at there homeground and there time keeper blew the siren early i can understand this going to the tribunal and result being investigated, but concidering it was a mitcham home game and there error it should be end of story, No way in hell would you catch me walking back on to the oval at the end of a game that you have just won due to a mess up by the opposition time keeper.

Portland vs PH game was a good game, any side with Flynn at CHF is going to be reasonable, specially on a small ground like ours were there big names were everywere as for the umpires they wernt the worst we have had but one decission still amazes me when one of our players launched himself at the footy and gave a quick handball out was called for tripping as momentum on the wet oval made contact with a para hills lads leg, one of the weirdest calls i have ever seen after playing footy for 15 years

SMOSH were still out on the ground when they were told that they had to play another 4.5 minutes. They made the decision to move from the oval into the change rooms after deciding they wouldn't keep playing. Once they were in the change rooms, there was no chance of getting them back onto the oval. The umpires in charge told them that their action will result in the game being taken to the tribunal by the umpires. I wouldnt put my money on the result changing...but the SAAFL could see it in many different ways.
a - mitcham's error, smosh keep the points
B- Smosh abandoned the game even though umpires requested them to continue play, Mitcham get the points
C- this is to hard, its an absolute mess - split the points
d- this is to hard, its an aboslute mess - leave the result as it is

We cant do anything about it now, but make sure we claim the points against Seaton

[Phantom Gossiper]

IMO bad luck to Mitcham, considering it was their time keeper that made the boo boo, they just have to wear that, cant go blaming anyone else and i think losing the game should serve as consequence for the time keeper not paying attention enough and making the mistake.

Perhaps in future he will apply himself more diligently to the task!

[PK12]

on the smosh game, if it were at there homeground and there time keeper blew the siren early i can understand this going to the tribunal and result being investigated, but concidering it was a mitcham home game and there error it should be end of story, No way in hell would you catch me walking back on to the oval at the end of a game that you have just won due to a mess up by the opposition time keeper.

Portland vs PH game was a good game, any side with Flynn at CHF is going to be reasonable, specially on a small ground like ours were there big names were everywere as for the umpires they wernt the worst we have had but one decission still amazes me when one of our players launched himself at the footy and gave a quick handball out was called for tripping as momentum on the wet oval made contact with a para hills lads leg, one of the weirdest calls i have ever seen after playing footy for 15 years

The only thing that could possibly go in Mitcham's favour is the fact Smosh agreed to the umpires there was still 4 minutes left and the umpires made it very clear that it will be noted to the tribunal. They didnt have a timekeeper but a timer on the bench counting down from 28 minutes. A few of their B graders came out on the oval afterwards and were talking with some Mitcham lads and couldnt believe the siren went early as the knew their was more time so who knows how the amateur league will react. Smosh didnt sing their song and it was good to see them back in the club for a beer considering the circumstances.

On the umpires...we had a guy yellow carded after taking a mark and pushing the guy away as his a smosh player was holding his guernsey. No Malice in it but the umpire gave him a yellow card for "trying to elbow him in the head". Reversed the free kick which resulted in smosh running the ball down and kicking a goal. Decisions like that are what is making everyone so frustrated with the umpiring.

[The Rooster]

The Umpires Must have been told off during the week by the sounds of it.

The Pembroke/Pooraka game was a wet game to start with and dried out during the day, but the Umpires were terrible all day, they did not favour either side, so both clubs have cause to complain. they pulled out really soft free kicks for push outs and ,Missed the most blatent high tackles, several times throughout the day the whistle went and neither side knew what the free was for, they were irrational and unpredictable, and i'm sure both teams were trading on eggshells in the first half to avoid giving away free kicks.

I really don't want to umpire bash, but these two guys were determined to be noticed and have an impact and they did, the best you can do is try and be first to the ball and hope no-one gets hurt! Is it too much to ask for an umpire that can talk calmly and explain his decisions and let a game of football just be a contest between two teams, especially with the eveness of the competition, we really need the umpires to take a step back and just umpire the game not "officiate" it.

[TEX07]

IMO bad luck to Mitcham, considering it was their time keeper that made the boo boo, they just have to wear that, cant go blaming anyone else and i think losing the game should serve as consequence for the time keeper not paying attention enough and making the mistake.

Perhaps in future he will apply himself more diligently to the task!

Surely it shouldn't matter who the time keeper was supplied by? Is he not supposed to be acting impartially anyway? If he made a mistake about the time and the game is to be decided by a tribunal, the team who supplied the time keeper should be irrelevant in my opinion. Even more so in this instance because clearly it was a mistake and not a means to get his club over the line.

[turbo182]

Rowe was stiff. It was an forceful open-handed push/jab to the ribs of a player holding him. reverse the kick, but not the yellow card.

AS it was Rowe put the ball on the ground so we should have got 25m as well. If we're talkign abotu costing you a goal - a decision in the back-pocket doesn't really justify the umpries fault. A ridiculous decison for a shephard in teh goal-sqaure for a ball that no-one 12 feet talll could have touched that literally went through for a goal - now thats costing you a goal.

Ah well, good game of footy. Move onto next week.

[Phantom Gossiper]

Surely it shouldn't matter who the time keeper was supplied by? Is he not supposed to be acting impartially anyway? If he made a mistake about the time and the game is to be decided by a tribunal, the team who supplied the time keeper should be irrelevant in my opinion. Even more so in this instance because clearly it was a mistake and not a means to get his club over the line.

Some sort of responsibility needs to be worn by the time keeper. No it shouldn't matter who the time keeper was supplied by, but seriously if the script was flipped and it was Mitcham up and SMOSH coming flying home and the Mitcham time keeper blew it early well im sure everyone would be crying foul play.
At the end of the day he made the mistake and I think that is just unlucky, i can't see how Mitcham deserve to be awarded points, there was no guarantee they would end up finishing over the top of SMOSH regardless of how close they were.

[Muffler]

Rowe was stiff. It was an forceful open-handed push/jab to the ribs of a player holding him. reverse the kick, but not the yellow card.

AS it was Rowe put the ball on the ground so we should have got 25m as well. If we're talkign abotu costing you a goal - a decision in the back-pocket doesn't really justify the umpries fault. A ridiculous decison for a shephard in teh goal-sqaure for a ball that no-one 12 feet talll could have touched that literally went through for a goal - now thats costing you a goal.

Ah well, good game of footy. Move onto next week.

I was on the bloke he pushed i asked him how hard he pushed and he said he hardly touched him.
He put the ball on the ground because the umpire told him too which was weird.
Good game of footy unfortinatly our time keeper made a mistake but if we didn't have him we wouldnt have a time keeper so thats life. On the result i feel once the siren has gone the game is over so i cant see the result changing and thanks to the SMOSH boys coming in and having a beer after the game.

[stretch]

Don't know what to make of saturday - weird day. See what happens tribunal wise, but in my mind - sirens goes, umpires call full-time, players shake hands, game over. Different feeling going into the rooms and not knowing whether to ice down, or go for the deepheat!

Hollywood - You gotta be kidding. While i feel sorry for the bloke who went off - he was pretty groggy - Completey accidental contact - #5 was on the bottom of the pack and lukey got dumped by a mitcham player on top of him. Either way, hope hes alright.

On another note - Oval looked in great shape despite the rain. Best I've seen it look (in footy season)!

Have to disagree on that one. Was two meters away with full view. Your player was tackled, but on coming down had both hands free and swung right elbow into doyles head. If that was accidental you can spin my nipplenuts and send me to Alaska. Was told by one of your blokes this was uncharacteristic for the player but he was throwing elbows earlier in the game as well.

However, it was great to see heaps of you fellas hang around for a beer or two, especially with the weird finish. And good stuff to the three guys who tidied the away rooms before heading off.

[SATCHEL]

Have to disagree on that one. Was two meters away with full view. Your player was tackled, but on coming down had both hands free and swung right elbow into doyles head. If that was accidental you can spin my nipplenuts and send me to Alaska. Was told by one of your blokes this was uncharacteristic for the player but he was throwing elbows earlier in the game as well.

However, it was great to see heaps of you fellas hang around for a beer or two, especially with the weird finish. And good stuff to the three guys who tidied the away rooms before heading off.[/quote]

He did the same thing against us. Almost Tippet and Walker like. Hit and run or wait till down. Its a pitty because he knows and we all know he's a great player. There is no need for it. Similar things happened in the C grade hame for us. 9 times out of 10 the retaliator gets pinched.

Sometimes the ruling on such an incident is skewed by the umps. What should normally be given the rest of the game is done as 10 minuets or the rest of the quarter. Then the retaliator or the incstigator gets pumped up miore waiting ad watching and goes out and does the same thing.

[Diesel]

Still trying to work out why everyone keeps saying the time keeper made an mistake.

A mistake is when you would blow the siren unintentionally. His clock ran down to zero so he walked over and blew the siren.

THAT IS NOT A MISTAKE

just because mitchams bench read something different is irrelivent.

[PK12]

Still trying to work out why everyone keeps saying the time keeper made an mistake.

A mistake is when you would blow the siren unintentionally. His clock ran down to zero so he walked over and blew the siren.

THAT IS NOT A MISTAKE

just because mitchams bench read something different is irrelivent.

If "just mitchams bench' thought the siren was blown early, why did the Smosh people agree?

[Diesel]

Still trying to work out why everyone keeps saying the time keeper made an mistake.

A mistake is when you would blow the siren unintentionally. His clock ran down to zero so he walked over and blew the siren.

THAT IS NOT A MISTAKE

just because mitchams bench read something different is irrelivent.

If "just mitchams bench' thought the siren was blown early, why did the Smosh people agree?

maybe before saying things like smosh people ageeing how could smosh poeple know it went early when they did not have a timer running with stoppage breaks.
EVERYONE IS GUESSING

[SATCHEL]

I can only see it going one way and thats with how the game finished is final. Sorry to the Mitcham lads ( ) but it sounds clear cut to me without being there of course. It wouldnt be good for any club to go through it.

[Jugs]

I can only see it going one way and thats with how the game finished is final. Sorry to the Mitcham lads ( ) but it sounds clear cut to me without being there of course. It wouldnt be good for any club to go through it.

This incident is an indictment to the SAAFL and they need to make a stand here

[PK12]

Still trying to work out why everyone keeps saying the time keeper made an mistake.

A mistake is when you would blow the siren unintentionally. His clock ran down to zero so he walked over and blew the siren.

THAT IS NOT A MISTAKE

just because mitchams bench read something different is irrelivent.

If "just mitchams bench' thought the siren was blown early, why did the Smosh people agree?

maybe before saying things like smosh people ageeing how could smosh poeple know it went early when they did not have a timer running with stoppage breaks.
EVERYONE IS GUESSING

Well maybe you should rather than having a timer counting down from 28 minutes

[Diesel]

Still trying to work out why everyone keeps saying the time keeper made an mistake.

A mistake is when you would blow the siren unintentionally. His clock ran down to zero so he walked over and blew the siren.

THAT IS NOT A MISTAKE

just because mitchams bench read something different is irrelivent.

If "just mitchams bench' thought the siren was blown early, why did the Smosh people agree?

maybe before saying things like smosh people ageeing how could smosh poeple know it went early when they did not have a timer running with stoppage breaks.
EVERYONE IS GUESSING

Well maybe you should rather than having a timer counting down from 28 minutes

you cant be serious!!! can you imagine what would happen if every club at the end of each qtr or game came out and said that there was a certain amount of timr remaining. it would be chaos.
this is why a time keeper is there and his final decision should be respected and move on and stop clutching at straws.

just could it be possible the mitcham bench made an error.......... in your eyes obviously not

[turbo182]

Any danger of blowing the siren on this argument?

Be more use holding an eagle raffle to decide the winner.

[piccachu]

Any danger of blowing the siren on this argument?

Be more use holding an eagle raffle to decide the winner.

Get your Eagles raffle eaaaar, hahahah love that bloke

[Dingles]

Who's to say if the remaining 4 minutes were played what the result would have been anyway. I have no allegiance to any of the clubs involved but no one can predict how the match would have finished if the remaining 4 minutes were played out. The amateur league surely has to go with the result that stands. Smosh might well have an argument that they would have kicked another 3 goals in that time and still be in top spot.