SAAFL Division 6 2013

[woodublieve12]

Whats the alternative? Let them play until they inevitably fold? And then other clubs dont get the opportunity to inflate their percentage?

Did CLG and MP not have any match day revenue? Did no one go back to the club after the CLG played and spend money?

Did TTG nominate 4 sides and then pull one after the cut off date?

fair point.

[Q.]

As far as the premiership tables are concerned the first 2 rounds v TTG did not exist. No one has the opportunity to benefit from playing a % booster against a side that is clearly not up to standard.


Perhaps it is time that the SAAFL go down the ATCA cricket path that no club can have a 2nd side go any higher than the lowest A grade division. In football terms that means a club with a C & D grade can not go above D7. Would save a lot of this bullshit of will they go up or not regardless of if they win a flag the previous season.

It's an anomaly. The club made the decision to let a heap of ex-D1 players chase premiership glory knowing they wouldn't suit up again, at the expense of promoting youth. You reap what you sow.

It would be worse to let clubs sandbag in D7.

Ideally, the C/D grades have their own competition, but we are not quite there yet.

[Jugs]

Whats the alternative? Let them play until they inevitably fold? And then other clubs dont get the opportunity to inflate their percentage?

Did CLG and MP not have any match day revenue? Did no one go back to the club after the CLG played and spend money?

Did TTG nominate 4 sides and then pull one after the cut off date?

Man of reason Mr Beefy, clubs should not be worried about percentage boosting wins, they should be more worried about the guys playing for TTG continue to enjoy playing and stick around the club and not leave the club because of getting belted each week. If this means they have to drop to our C grade comp so be it.

If clubs want there money back for playing these game do i get my money back that i put over the bar at one of these games?

Sometimes it isn't all about inflating your coaching ego!

[Footy Smart]

Whats the alternative? Let them play until they inevitably fold? And then other clubs dont get the opportunity to inflate their percentage?

Did CLG and MP not have any match day revenue? Did no one go back to the club after the CLG played and spend money?

Did TTG nominate 4 sides and then pull one after the cut off date?

From what I have been told, they were/are only a few weeks away from having to pull the side all together when injuries hit up the grades etc. they scrambled last week to pull a side together from all reports.

Something had to be done, its done now, no point crying about it

[Footy Smart]

As far as the premiership tables are concerned the first 2 rounds v TTG did not exist. No one has the opportunity to benefit from playing a % booster against a side that is clearly not up to standard.


Perhaps it is time that the SAAFL go down the ATCA cricket path that no club can have a 2nd side go any higher than the lowest A grade division. In football terms that means a club with a C & D grade can not go above D7. Would save a lot of this bullshit of will they go up or not regardless of if they win a flag the previous season.

It's an anomaly. The club made the decision to let a heap of ex-D1 players chase premiership glory knowing they wouldn't suit up again, at the expense of promoting youth. You reap what you sow.

It would be worse to let clubs sandbag in D7.

Ideally, the C/D grades have their own competition, but we are not quite there yet.

very true Q, their own fault but the right decision has been made IMO by the SAAFL

[Jugs]

As far as the premiership tables are concerned the first 2 rounds v TTG did not exist. No one has the opportunity to benefit from playing a % booster against a side that is clearly not up to standard.


Perhaps it is time that the SAAFL go down the ATCA cricket path that no club can have a 2nd side go any higher than the lowest A grade division. In football terms that means a club with a C & D grade can not go above D7. Would save a lot of this bullshit of will they go up or not regardless of if they win a flag the previous season.

It's an anomaly. The club made the decision to let a heap of ex-D1 players chase premiership glory knowing they wouldn't suit up again, at the expense of promoting youth. You reap what you sow.

It would be worse to let clubs sandbag in D7.

Ideally, the C/D grades have their own competition, but we are not quite there yet.

very true Q, their own fault but the right decision has been made IMO by the SAAFL

Another good point! No use seeing a team fold completely!

[marbles]

Its hardly ttg fault that 25 men walked out and said goodriddins

For the next month or so there would be more fifty goal thrashings and likely another 10 blokes will walk out with a 'nah cant be **** anymore ' attitude and wont show up either

Its inevitable other clubs in div 6 will face forfeits even if the league sat back and did nothing. At least with a bye, clubs will now know immediately that there is a week off rather than the Friday night before hearing that the game has been called off

maybe an additional fix here to please these sulking clubs is to give each club a 30 goal win when the bye now comes around for your team. thats what happens normally with forfeits yeah?

Full credit to the league, one of their creatures has hit hard times, is ailing, bleeding and on the brink of death. Like a dying whale the league has put the time in to save the lives of about 20 LOYAL ttg footballers and allowed them to still be able to play for their club on saturdays, rather than seeing the whale beach itself to die

the true issue here of this issue is that the last years div 7 C-grade blokes probably bailed on TTG knowing that C-Grade teams are a no chance in div 6 against paid A-Grade footballers. Enthusiasm to play in Div 6 as a c-grader is minimal, why waste your time as an old man just wanting a kick and a catch in the twilight of your footy career. 35 year old men dont wanna get up every week, to play gun 25 year old surpreme athletes. No wonder these blokes left TTG

[scottroo]

To be honest the only club benefitting from it all is ttg, the problem from the start

[Jugs]

To be honest the only club benefitting from it all is ttg, the problem from the start

Maybe ask for the money back form your players who played a non event game to help cover the trainers and umpires cost?

Or do clubs now pay for players in trial games?

[zedman]

Whats the alternative? Let them play until they inevitably fold? And then other clubs dont get the opportunity to inflate their percentage?

Did CLG and MP not have any match day revenue? Did no one go back to the club after the CLG played and spend money?

Did TTG nominate 4 sides and then pull one after the cut off date?

TTG will play every game this year in D8 now..they wont forfeit one game..just watch..yeah it was a struggle to get players for their team same as it was for every club who has to endure shocking years..thats life..just like your club had to do last year beefy..

and nobody has answered this:

"they are allowed to drop 2 grades because they have lost by to much and can't win?..show me a precedent for that?"

nothing we say will change it now anyway..its done and dusted..we've got no choice but to move on..its just very frustrating..

[marbles]

To be honest the only club benefitting from it all is ttg, the problem from the start

the problem from the start was C-grade sides in an A-Grade competition

consider the men who have stayed loyal and hung around, it is them who deserve this second chance, no matter what club is involved

[mozzie]

From my clubs point of view i think it is a good thing the league has done this now, at least we now know it is a bye and don't run the risk of copping a forfeit on the eve of the game.
TTG are struggling and blame who ever you want, but we would hate to see the team fold and blokes miss out on a game each sat.

[scottroo]

The clubs that have played them are pissed off, the ones that havnt are happy

[Q.]

the true issue here of this issue is that the last years div 7 C-grade blokes probably bailed on TTG knowing that C-Grade teams are a no chance in div 6 against paid A-Grade footballers. Enthusiasm to play in Div 6 as a c-grader is minimal, why waste your time as an old man just wanting a kick and a catch in the twilight of your footy career. 35 year old men dont wanna get up every week, to play gun 25 year old surpreme athletes. No wonder these blokes left TTG

I guess it's easier 'playing for the jumper' when you're winning.

[mozzie]

The clubs that have played them are pissed off, the ones that havnt are happy

Mate y is that, of course we would of loved a 40 goal win and the chance for a percentage booster but sometimes it is about more than that.

The league has made a decision so lets move on.

What it does give Mawson lakes, is the chance to rest our old weary body's twice a year more now

[Jugs]

The clubs that have played them are pissed off, the ones that havnt are happy

I don't see Mitchell Park on here sooking, just the same old people from the same old club!

[Jugs]

the true issue here of this issue is that the last years div 7 C-grade blokes probably bailed on TTG knowing that C-Grade teams are a no chance in div 6 against paid A-Grade footballers. Enthusiasm to play in Div 6 as a c-grader is minimal, why waste your time as an old man just wanting a kick and a catch in the twilight of your footy career. 35 year old men dont wanna get up every week, to play gun 25 year old surpreme athletes. No wonder these blokes left TTG

I guess it's easier 'playing for the jumper' when you're winning.

I don't know Q, why don't you ask the 4 or 5 players you have picked up from TTG that will help you blokes out heaps. Maybe you should tell them to go back to TTG and help them out?

[Sass!]

I think the correct call has finally been made here, even if it is 2 games too late.. While its a shame for the sides that have played gullies thus far, it would be an even bigger uproar should gullies pull there side mid year and then teams get a forfeit and no "percentage booster"..

As a Modbury player for my entire life we are born and bread to have a certain (respectful) hatred toward the gullies, but i know i speak for alot of MFC lads when i say that seeing them get pumped by that much and knowing they were on the brink of collapse in lower grades is not great. i still havee alot of mates out there and a huge respect for the rivalry that our juniors through to seniors still have ... i want to see them strong and competitive (but not too strong) Its a reactive decision that could of been avoided but in my opinion had to happen.

[carey]

The clubs that have played them are pissed off, the ones that havnt are happy

That is a pretty stupid thing to say Scottroo. We havent played them we had them in round 4 and i was looking forward to it I had some plans in place and was hopefully going to run a few blokes in to form so i cant see how you can say I'm happy.

On the point of % lost for CLG and M/Park you blokes cant be serious? What the other sides wouldnt have smashed them either? So you blokes keep your % yet no other side get to play them? Come on........

I dont think there are any winners from this whole situation its not great having a bye but hey how many times during other years have you had a chance to go watch a mate play, a div 1 game or indeed your opposition for the following week?

No point pi$$ing and moaning the decision has been made and is final move on and play on...

[Q.]

the true issue here of this issue is that the last years div 7 C-grade blokes probably bailed on TTG knowing that C-Grade teams are a no chance in div 6 against paid A-Grade footballers. Enthusiasm to play in Div 6 as a c-grader is minimal, why waste your time as an old man just wanting a kick and a catch in the twilight of your footy career. 35 year old men dont wanna get up every week, to play gun 25 year old surpreme athletes. No wonder these blokes left TTG

I guess it's easier 'playing for the jumper' when you're winning.

I don't know Q, why don't you ask the 4 or 5 players you have picked up from TTG that will help you blokes out heaps. Maybe you should tell them to go back to TTG and help them out?

I won't be telling them anything, they can play where they like.

None of them played in their C-Grade grand final team BTW.