SAAFL Division 5 & D5R (2012)

[One Eyed]

Thats cool then, was just a question and really the league will never know..

[One Eyed]

Its a whopper too

Swap Havenz and Luthie ya say.....of the 22 ins for haven 14 of them have come from Div 2 and 3 as well as YPFL and NEFL all of which would be of a higher standard than Div 5 and further more all 14 players were starting A grade players. I wondering if anyone is willing to be that truthful about there INS? Love to know how many INS are targeted recruits capable of starting in the side. Haven't even mentioned the starting A graders from Havens finals side last year.

Also fair bit if talk of R. Miguel... Is it possibly putting fair ask on 1 player?

Havens are very happy with the amount of players we have recruited to the club as we now have a fourth side and needed those numbers. Our main goal has been chasing former junior players that had left the club as this has been a major problem for us in the past. Of the players recruited only 10 are in consideration for A Grade of which only 5 or 6 will play in round 1. Which will definitely improve our team. The main downside is loss of our Ruckman and not getting a replacement.

Do you guys have some sort of immunity from the points system?
Or is it a case of getting blokes there on the assumption they will play A grade and then telling them later that you cant fit them in?
Not having a crack, just curious. I would give my left testicle for 22 ins

[Boosh]

So unless they are ALL Old Scholars. there is a hell of alot of points just there.

Swap Havenz and Luthie ya say.....of the 22 ins for haven 14 of them have come from Div 2 and 3 as well as YPFL and NEFL all of which would be of a higher standard than Div 5 and further more all 14 players were starting A grade players. I wondering if anyone is willing to be that truthful about there INS? Love to know how many INS are targeted recruits capable of starting in the side. Haven't even mentioned the starting A graders from Havens finals side last year.

Also fair bit if talk of R. Miguel... Is it possibly putting fair ask on 1 player?

Fair point you have ether Schnitzel...

Im just gonna make 1 point, although they may have played in higher divisions they may not dominate just because they have come down. Im sure if those players come with that attitude then they may get the shock of there life. Having grown up around country footy I have seen time after time players come to the league (ex SANFL players) being paid the big bucks and yet really they are not much better if at all then most of the guns already in the league...

The hype surrounding Miegel is warranted...Anyone who is 6"10 and is just as good below his knees is handy, not to mention he won the Div 5 medal 2 years ago when he last played in Div 5, and from a Woody South perspective from last year, he single handily beat them in the only game he played in Div 5....8.7 and some that he shouldn't of handed off...just an insight to what he is capable of

Im sure some of the Brahma and Haven boys would back me up here

I always thought Westminster was a pretty good school and im pretty shocked that they don't teach English there. Your parents should ask for a refund.

Pretty sure I said we targeted former Junior Players so to quote your mocking term of 'They must be old scholars' yes they are the equivalent. The only difference is our club has put time and money into their development instead of just being affiliated with a school.

[nicole]

Boosh your so cute when you are angry

[One Eyed]

Ba ha ha ha ha .....A tad precious there tiger. Cant get refunds from Public schools I dont think. ALL juniors returning well done.

So unless they are ALL Old Scholars. there is a hell of alot of points just there.

Swap Havenz and Luthie ya say.....of the 22 ins for haven 14 of them have come from Div 2 and 3 as well as YPFL and NEFL all of which would be of a higher standard than Div 5 and further more all 14 players were starting A grade players. I wondering if anyone is willing to be that truthful about there INS? Love to know how many INS are targeted recruits capable of starting in the side. Haven't even mentioned the starting A graders from Havens finals side last year.

Also fair bit if talk of R. Miguel... Is it possibly putting fair ask on 1 player?

Fair point you have ether Schnitzel...

Im just gonna make 1 point, although they may have played in higher divisions they may not dominate just because they have come down. Im sure if those players come with that attitude then they may get the shock of there life. Having grown up around country footy I have seen time after time players come to the league (ex SANFL players) being paid the big bucks and yet really they are not much better if at all then most of the guns already in the league...

The hype surrounding Miegel is warranted...Anyone who is 6"10 and is just as good below his knees is handy, not to mention he won the Div 5 medal 2 years ago when he last played in Div 5, and from a Woody South perspective from last year, he single handily beat them in the only game he played in Div 5....8.7 and some that he shouldn't of handed off...just an insight to what he is capable of

Im sure some of the Brahma and Haven boys would back me up here

I always thought Westminster was a pretty good school and im pretty shocked that they don't teach English there. Your parents should ask for a refund.

Pretty sure I said we targeted former Junior Players so to quote your mocking term of 'They must be old scholars' yes they are the equivalent. The only difference is our club has put time and money into their development instead of just being affiliated with a school.

[Boosh]

Must be hard on the peninsula to maintain players with so many other clubs nearby. I remember in the early 80's when there was Ethelton, Port Presbyterian and Riverside to compete with aswell, a lot of clubs per population.
It amazes me how the NWMFL has so many numbers, when I lived at Cheltenham we could get to any opposition ground within 10 or 15 minutes.

I played for Ethelton Juniors in the 80's and I reckon the furthest trip was Ferryden Park.

You're right it is difficult on the Peninsula these days even with clubs in the area folding or merging. The main problem is the ageing population in an already small area.

Obviously you are experiencing similar issues out North with yourselves and Paralowie struggling, I think it's just a shift away from the traditional sports.

Former Peninsula Clubs
Port Presbyterian are now North Haven
Taperoo Folded
Exeter and Semi Centrals are now Port Districts
Ethelton Riverside and Alberton United are now Portland

[hawkseye]

Must be hard on the peninsula to maintain players with so many other clubs nearby. I remember in the early 80's when there was Ethelton, Port Presbyterian and Riverside to compete with aswell, a lot of clubs per population.
It amazes me how the NWMFL has so many numbers, when I lived at Cheltenham we could get to any opposition ground within 10 or 15 minutes.

I played for Ethelton Juniors in the 80's and I reckon the furthest trip was Ferryden Park.

You're right it is difficult on the Peninsula these days even with clubs in the area folding or merging. The main problem is the ageing population in an already small area.

Obviously you are experiencing similar issues out North with yourselves and Paralowie struggling, I think it's just a shift away from the traditional sports.

Former Peninsula Clubs
Port Presbyterian are now North Haven
Taperoo Folded
Exeter and Semi Centrals are now Port Districts
Ethelton Riverside and Alberton United are now Portland

Was always good playing against Ethelton in those days for Ferryden Park. They were competetitive games unlike playing against the Henleys and Pt districts where we were always belted.

[Boosh]

Must be hard on the peninsula to maintain players with so many other clubs nearby. I remember in the early 80's when there was Ethelton, Port Presbyterian and Riverside to compete with aswell, a lot of clubs per population.
It amazes me how the NWMFL has so many numbers, when I lived at Cheltenham we could get to any opposition ground within 10 or 15 minutes.

I played for Ethelton Juniors in the 80's and I reckon the furthest trip was Ferryden Park.

You're right it is difficult on the Peninsula these days even with clubs in the area folding or merging. The main problem is the ageing population in an already small area.

Obviously you are experiencing similar issues out North with yourselves and Paralowie struggling, I think it's just a shift away from the traditional sports.

Former Peninsula Clubs
Port Presbyterian are now North Haven
Taperoo Folded
Exeter and Semi Centrals are now Port Districts
Ethelton Riverside and Alberton United are now Portland

Was always good playing against Ethelton in those days for Ferryden Park. They were competetitive games unlike playing against the Henleys and Pt districts where we were always belted.

Yeah mate, the Mighty Roos weren't so mighty then but made up for lack of ability by looking awesome in our Gold Shorts. We had an epic win over Ferryden Park in under 9's 1 point to nothing.
Rosewaters Brett McPherson was on the receiving end of that thrashing.

[watchdog]

Is it true they must have played 25 junior games at the club?? Therefore at more than 1 season?

[hollywood7477]

As at 8/3/12

I see kenilworth have picked up Dustin Georgeson. He trained with us for 2wks, couldn't handle the hard work so I guess he went the easy option of div 5 footy

[Lightning McQueen]

Must be hard on the peninsula to maintain players with so many other clubs nearby. I remember in the early 80's when there was Ethelton, Port Presbyterian and Riverside to compete with aswell, a lot of clubs per population.
It amazes me how the NWMFL has so many numbers, when I lived at Cheltenham we could get to any opposition ground within 10 or 15 minutes.

I played for Ethelton Juniors in the 80's and I reckon the furthest trip was Ferryden Park.

You're right it is difficult on the Peninsula these days even with clubs in the area folding or merging. The main problem is the ageing population in an already small area.

Obviously you are experiencing similar issues out North with yourselves and Paralowie struggling, I think it's just a shift away from the traditional sports.

Former Peninsula Clubs
Port Presbyterian are now North Haven
Taperoo Folded
Exeter and Semi Centrals are now Port Districts
Ethelton Riverside and Alberton United are now Portland

Paralowie folding wasn't from lack of numbers however it was always a problem having juniors there with North Pines, Salisbury North, Salisbury West and Salisbury so close.

Personel defecting to Angle Vale and now Elizabeth has seen our juniors diminish over the past few seasons, finding parents willing to dedicate their time to coach or officiate in some capacity has been a contributing factor aswell.
As for our seniors, we've copped two big hits in recent years where coaches have got roles elsewhere and taken a stack of players with them.

At the end of the day, our club should've ran better at the time, it's a shame as the committee we now have is probably the most pro-active we've had this millenium but the damage has been done.

[zedman]

Is it true they must have played 25 junior games at the club?? Therefore at more than 1 season?

pretty sure its 25 watchy..

[Executive Member]

Is it true they must have played 25 junior games at the club?? Therefore at more than 1 season?

pretty sure its 25 watchy..

25 from U/14's onwards or U/13's not 100% sure on that one

[Executive Member]

APPROVED PLAYER POINTS SYSTEM (“APPS”)
1. Basis of the APPS
The basis of the APPS is as follows:
1.1 An Affiliated League Club must not field players in its Senior (A Grade) Team in any game which exceed the total points which have been allocated to that Club under the Total Points Rating. (Refer clause 2.1 below).
1.2 The APPS will only apply to Senior (A grade) Teams.
1.3 “Junior Football” means a competition in which players must be under the age of 18 years on a prescribed date in the calendar year in which that competition is conducted.
1.4 “Junior Player” means a player under the age of 18 years who has played a minimum of 25 games from the year in which he turns 13 years of age with the Club of an Affiliated League with which he is seeking registration.
1.5 A player who is the child of a Club Life Member can be registered with that same club and they will attract zero (0) points.
1.6 A player transferring from one Affiliated League Club to another Affiliated League Club and who is under the age of 18 and has played a combined total of more than twenty (20) games at SANFL Under 18, Reserves and/or League level – attract 2 additional points.

[Executive Member]

and then this comes into effect

A registered player of a Club of an Affiliated League who has played a total of 25 or more games in the Senior (A grade) Team or Reserves (B grade) Team or Junior Football with that Club, who has transferred to a Club of another League within Australia and returns to his original Club will have a Player Points Rating of zero (0).

[woodublieve12]

and then this comes into effect

A registered player of a Club of an Affiliated League who has played a total of 25 or more games in the Senior (A grade) Team or Reserves (B grade) Team or Junior Football with that Club, who has transferred to a Club of another League within Australia and returns to his original Club will have a Player Points Rating of zero (0).

awesome, so when Bryce Gibbs comes back to Plympton he'll be zero points

[heater31]

and then this comes into effect

A registered player of a Club of an Affiliated League who has played a total of 25 or more games in the Senior (A grade) Team or Reserves (B grade) Team or Junior Football with that Club, who has transferred to a Club of another League within Australia and returns to his original Club will have a Player Points Rating of zero (0).

awesome, so when Bryce Gibbs comes back to Plympton he'll be zero points

He will be 40 years old though.....

[watchdog]

APPROVED PLAYER POINTS SYSTEM (“APPS”)
1. Basis of the APPS
The basis of the APPS is as follows:
1.1 An Affiliated League Club must not field players in its Senior (A Grade) Team in any game which exceed the total points which have been allocated to that Club under the Total Points Rating. (Refer clause 2.1 below).
1.2 The APPS will only apply to Senior (A grade) Teams.
1.3 “Junior Football” means a competition in which players must be under the age of 18 years on a prescribed date in the calendar year in which that competition is conducted.
1.4 “Junior Player” means a player under the age of 18 years who has played a minimum of 25 games from the year in which he turns 13 years of age with the Club of an Affiliated League with which he is seeking registration.
1.5 A player who is the child of a Club Life Member can be registered with that same club and they will attract zero (0) points.
1.6 A player transferring from one Affiliated League Club to another Affiliated League Club and who is under the age of 18 and has played a combined total of more than twenty (20) games at SANFL Under 18, Reserves and/or League level – attract 2 additional points.

Wonder if all these North Haven juniors meet this criteria?

[watchdog]

APPROVED PLAYER POINTS SYSTEM (“APPS”)
1. Basis of the APPS
The basis of the APPS is as follows:
1.1 An Affiliated League Club must not field players in its Senior (A Grade) Team in any game which exceed the total points which have been allocated to that Club under the Total Points Rating. (Refer clause 2.1 below).
1.2 The APPS will only apply to Senior (A grade) Teams.
1.3 “Junior Football” means a competition in which players must be under the age of 18 years on a prescribed date in the calendar year in which that competition is conducted.
1.4 “Junior Player” means a player under the age of 18 years who has played a minimum of 25 games from the year in which he turns 13 years of age with the Club of an Affiliated League with which he is seeking registration.
1.5 A player who is the child of a Club Life Member can be registered with that same club and they will attract zero (0) points.
1.6 A player transferring from one Affiliated League Club to another Affiliated League Club and who is under the age of 18 and has played a combined total of more than twenty (20) games at SANFL Under 18, Reserves and/or League level – attract 2 additional points.

Wonder if all these North Haven juniors meet this criteria?

I only ask as I know of some clubs in other leagues that have mistaken juniors for 0 points in the past as they hadn't played the 25 games.

[bickle]

APPROVED PLAYER POINTS SYSTEM (“APPS”)
1. Basis of the APPS
The basis of the APPS is as follows:
1.1 An Affiliated League Club must not field players in its Senior (A Grade) Team in any game which exceed the total points which have been allocated to that Club under the Total Points Rating. (Refer clause 2.1 below).
1.2 The APPS will only apply to Senior (A grade) Teams.
1.3 “Junior Football” means a competition in which players must be under the age of 18 years on a prescribed date in the calendar year in which that competition is conducted.
1.4 “Junior Player” means a player under the age of 18 years who has played a minimum of 25 games from the year in which he turns 13 years of age with the Club of an Affiliated League with which he is seeking registration.
1.5 A player who is the child of a Club Life Member can be registered with that same club and they will attract zero (0) points.
1.6 A player transferring from one Affiliated League Club to another Affiliated League Club and who is under the age of 18 and has played a combined total of more than twenty (20) games at SANFL Under 18, Reserves and/or League level – attract 2 additional points.

Wonder if all these North Haven juniors meet this criteria?

interesting to see clause 1.5 that a life members son can be registered as zero points.
different clubs have different criteria on becoming a life member - games played, consecutive service etc.
so if a player has played his junior footy with a club, apart from his dads, can go to his dads club for zero points.
i have heard whispers of certain clubs giving fathers / parents life memberships to attract players for zero points.