SAAFL Div 7 & Div 7R (2011)

[morell]

Yeah thats the one. Mind you both of them were ordinary.

[The Riddler]

Angle Vale have certainly turned the comp on it's head on the weekend with a great win...goes to show this comp is a lot tighter than people outside the div give it credit for. Next 2 rounds should be interesting again with 4 of the top 5 again playing each other.

[S Demon]

Angle Vale have certainly turned the comp on it's head on the weekend with a great win...goes to show this comp is a lot tighter than people outside the div give it credit for. Next 2 rounds should be interesting again with 4 of the top 5 again playing each other.

Only really tight amongst the top 5...

[The Riddler]

Angle Vale have certainly turned the comp on it's head on the weekend with a great win...goes to show this comp is a lot tighter than people outside the div give it credit for. Next 2 rounds should be interesting again with 4 of the top 5 again playing each other.

Only really tight amongst the top 5...

I reckon North Pines will cause the odd upset in the 2nd half of the year. They weren't too bad Saturday and are gaining more players as the weeks go on, a couple of very good players to debut in the coming weeks I got told and they were watching on the sidelines.

[morell]

I think North Pines and Athelstone are going to be competitive for most of the year. Definitely not easy beats.

Really the only teams that are struggling week in week out are Flinders Uni and Modbury. Show me a division that doesn't have one or two teams that are struggling?

[Jugs]

SHOC won't lose a game in either grade all season in Div 7

Angle Vale 17.19 121 v 13.09 87 Sacred Heart OC

geez mate i think u spoke a bit to soon dnt ya reckon?

They might have lost Saturday, but you're kidding yourself if you think you blokes or the Mawson Lakes Masters or Mitchell Park Maulers will get anywhere near the College boys come finals time. With all their sides in the finals they will be topped up, and Angle Vale, Masters, Maulers and TTG will be battling for 2nd spot. Nothing else and geez mate, your Bs got real close to them

[silent hour]

SHOC won't lose a game in either grade all season in Div 7
Athelstone have picked up the quitting Plympton 'C' grade coach and a heap of players have followed him

Angle Vale 17.19 121 v 13.09 87 Sacred Heart OC

geez mate i think u spoke a bit to soon dnt ya reckon?

They might have lost Saturday, but you're kidding yourself if you think you blokes or the Mawson Lakes Masters or Mitchell Park Maulers will get anywhere near the College boys come finals time. With all their sides in the finals they will be topped up, and Angle Vale, Masters, Maulers and TTG will be battling for 2nd spot. Nothing else and geez mate, your Bs got real close to them

Jugs you were the one who made the quote!!

[Lightning McQueen]

They might have lost Saturday, but you're kidding yourself if you think you blokes or the Mawson Lakes Masters or Mitchell Park Maulers will get anywhere near the College boys come finals time. With all their sides in the finals they will be topped up, and Angle Vale, Masters, Maulers and TTG will be battling for 2nd spot. Nothing else and geez mate, your Bs got real close to them

Good to see you hinge your thoughts on B grade when you are trying to remove your foot from your mouth, Angle Vale B's have won a handful of games in their existence, matters very little in the bigger picture.

[double-blue]

They might have lost Saturday, but you're kidding yourself if you think you blokes or the Mawson Lakes Masters or Mitchell Park Maulers will get anywhere near the College boys come finals time. With all their sides in the finals they will be topped up, and Angle Vale, Masters, Maulers and TTG will be battling for 2nd spot. Nothing else and geez mate, your Bs got real close to them

Good to see you hinge your thoughts on B grade when you are trying to remove your foot from your mouth, Angle Vale B's have won a handful of games in their existence, matters very little in the bigger picture.

Actually the success of a B grade side would have a lot to do with the bigger picture. It's clubs that solely focus on their A grade by buying players and forgetting about their B's that are the first to fall. If I was a B grade player for Angle Vale I would not be too keen to play next year. All it takes is for a few lads to leave then you're stuck with one team and half of your subs revenue

[Jetters]

Thanks Mr Butterworth for your kind words. Good to see you enjoyed the game.

Still very raw for me. One of the most disappointing losses I have ever played in. Could have gone either way and shall we say that a few chances were converted by Mitchell Park but perhaps not recorded and one or two TTG goals were recorded but perhaps weren't actually converted

Still we should have been up by plenty more at 3/4 time to make that sort of stuff irrelevant. Credit to TTG, we could never shake them despite being regularly up by 1-2-3 goals. They came home like a steam train and we couldn't stop them.

Umpiring was an absolute shambles. For both sides. My opponent told me that they were the same ones that umpired the ML/TTG game and that similar crap occurred. I am normally measured with my posts on umpires and the like as they more often than not do an OK job considering their experience/age/fitness but on Saturday they exhibited a repeated, systematic, basic lack of understanding of the game. It wasn't missing free kicks or being in the wrong position, it was seeing it, processing what happened and blatantly making the wrong call.

1. If a player ducks in a tackle at the last moment, it is not a head high free kick. I know we nicked a couple of goals from that one.
2. If a player sees an opposition tackle coming, bends down and gets tackled around the waist whilst his head is in the guys stomach - it is not a head high free kick.
3. If a player attempts a mark, does not put his hands on his opposition and touches the ball, it cannot be "in the back" - even if it was spectacular.
4. Players need more than 0.002 milliseconds to dispose of the ball - it is not holding the ball if they get tackled immediately upon gaining possession.

We had a trainee kid aged all of 15 for the Flinders game. He did a great job compared to the umpires on Saturday. I think some re-training needs to be attempted.

You are not 100% right with 1 & 2. If the player with the ball instigates the contact and the player making the high contact is stationary then as you said it is not a free kick. However, even if the ball carrier instigates the head high contact by ducking, if the tackling player is still moving towards to ball carrier it will be deemed high contact.

[Lightning McQueen]

They might have lost Saturday, but you're kidding yourself if you think you blokes or the Mawson Lakes Masters or Mitchell Park Maulers will get anywhere near the College boys come finals time. With all their sides in the finals they will be topped up, and Angle Vale, Masters, Maulers and TTG will be battling for 2nd spot. Nothing else and geez mate, your Bs got real close to them

Good to see you hinge your thoughts on B grade when you are trying to remove your foot from your mouth, Angle Vale B's have won a handful of games in their existence, matters very little in the bigger picture.

Actually the success of a B grade side would have a lot to do with the bigger picture. It's clubs that solely focus on their A grade by buying players and forgetting about their B's that are the first to fall. If I was a B grade player for Angle Vale I would not be too keen to play next year. All it takes is for a few lads to leave then you're stuck with one team and half of your subs revenue

Angle Vale are infants in the SAAFL, they were unsure whether they'd field 2 sides to begin with, their B's are made up of a few older blokes and some kids that play 16's out there, they have given many of these kids and their team-mates games in the 1's and will continue to based on their training attendance, performance and attitude.
I'm far from a fan of Angle Vale but my understanding is the wheels are moving and they seem a happy bunch, the kids are getting a crack and they have an abundance of players, I've coached a fair few of them and I monitor their progress closely. Rome wasn't built in a day and seems as though the AVFC are on the right track atm for survival.

[morell]

Thanks Mr Butterworth for your kind words. Good to see you enjoyed the game.

Still very raw for me. One of the most disappointing losses I have ever played in. Could have gone either way and shall we say that a few chances were converted by Mitchell Park but perhaps not recorded and one or two TTG goals were recorded but perhaps weren't actually converted

Still we should have been up by plenty more at 3/4 time to make that sort of stuff irrelevant. Credit to TTG, we could never shake them despite being regularly up by 1-2-3 goals. They came home like a steam train and we couldn't stop them.

Umpiring was an absolute shambles. For both sides. My opponent told me that they were the same ones that umpired the ML/TTG game and that similar crap occurred. I am normally measured with my posts on umpires and the like as they more often than not do an OK job considering their experience/age/fitness but on Saturday they exhibited a repeated, systematic, basic lack of understanding of the game. It wasn't missing free kicks or being in the wrong position, it was seeing it, processing what happened and blatantly making the wrong call.

1. If a player ducks in a tackle at the last moment, it is not a head high free kick. I know we nicked a couple of goals from that one.
2. If a player sees an opposition tackle coming, bends down and gets tackled around the waist whilst his head is in the guys stomach - it is not a head high free kick.
3. If a player attempts a mark, does not put his hands on his opposition and touches the ball, it cannot be "in the back" - even if it was spectacular.
4. Players need more than 0.002 milliseconds to dispose of the ball - it is not holding the ball if they get tackled immediately upon gaining possession.

We had a trainee kid aged all of 15 for the Flinders game. He did a great job compared to the umpires on Saturday. I think some re-training needs to be attempted.

You are not 100% right with 1 & 2. If the player with the ball instigates the contact and the player making the high contact is stationary then as you said it is not a free kick. However, even if the ball carrier instigates the head high contact by ducking, if the tackling player is still moving towards to ball carrier it will be deemed high contact.

Yep agreed, if someone charges in and collects them high whilst they have their head over the ball or are bent at the hip, that is a free kick.

We had quite a few whereby there was a scrap for the ball on the ground and Player X has picked it up and tried to charge out of the pack, as you do, Player Y attempts to stop him by legally wrapping his arms around the waist or upper torso under the arms but because Player X initiated head high contact he got the free kick. What are you supposed to do?

It got to the point that whenever I got the ball I was tempted to run around bent at 90 degrees as I could just about guarantee I could get a free kick.

[Milly]

SHOC won't lose a game in either grade all season in Div 7

Angle Vale 17.19 121 v 13.09 87 Sacred Heart OC

geez mate i think u spoke a bit to soon dnt ya reckon?

Ha Ha thats gold mate. Welcome aboard. Just want to know how Angle Vale went about is Saturday. Did they go tall or small or was it the usual aggresive aproach? Did Ash Walker kick any to.

[bar20]

loved playing my 1st game with the Raggies yesterday. Had a ball. Good club, good blokes. good atmosphere !
Cheers Boys !
Lookin forward to the weeks ahead !
Hopefully a few more BOG to come

Sounds like unfit you're one of the lads that joined them after 'Plympton gate' debacle last week. Good choice joining the Raggies as they're a good club. How many made the trip over from the dog kennel?

[AndersonWalkWarrior]

Ha Ha thats gold mate. Welcome aboard. Just want to know how Angle Vale went about is Saturday. Did they go tall or small or was it the usual aggresive aproach? Did Ash Walker kick any to.[/quote]

dunno if i can give away the secret mate

[unfit]

loved playing my 1st game with the Raggies yesterday. Had a ball. Good club, good blokes. good atmosphere !
Cheers Boys !
Lookin forward to the weeks ahead !
Hopefully a few more BOG to come

Sounds like unfit you're one of the lads that joined them after 'Plympton gate' debacle last week. Good choice joining the Raggies as they're a good club. How many made the trip over from the dog kennel?

You are right Bar20 yes. 5 lads will be playing for sure, possibly another 2 or 3 pal.
"Plympton Gate".. lol ...

[DKL]

Angle Vale have certainly turned the comp on it's head on the weekend with a great win...goes to show this comp is a lot tighter than people outside the div give it credit for. Next 2 rounds should be interesting again with 4 of the top 5 again playing each other.

Only really tight amongst the top 5...

I reckon North Pines will cause the odd upset in the 2nd half of the year. They weren't too bad Saturday and are gaining more players as the weeks go on, a couple of very good players to debut in the coming weeks I got told and they were watching on the sidelines.

I've heard that Derek Newchurch has signed at North Pines and that they are also picking up Damian Rigney from Greenacres. Expect the spiders to come home with a wet sail

[TOS_lad23]

On the whole Angle Vale moving forward thing. Once the Angle Vale Community Sports Centre is up and running i think it will be a massive launching pad for the club. Having the cricket, soccer and footy teams together at the one venue and with brand new club rooms and facilities you would think they could attract more players and sponsers. I played junior club footy at the owls up until U/15s and driving past the site everyday and seeing the clubrooms, floodlights and big oval makes me think about wanting to play out there again in the future. There are quality players in the BL&G & SAAFL who played juniors out there and if the people in charge down at Angle Vale can convince some of them to come back and attract new players then AVFC could have a solid future in the SAAFL.

That government grant might just be money well spent

[BenchedEagle]

Angle Vale have certainly turned the comp on it's head on the weekend with a great win...goes to show this comp is a lot tighter than people outside the div give it credit for. Next 2 rounds should be interesting again with 4 of the top 5 again playing each other.

Only really tight amongst the top 5...

I reckon North Pines will cause the odd upset in the 2nd half of the year. They weren't too bad Saturday and are gaining more players as the weeks go on, a couple of very good players to debut in the coming weeks I got told and they were watching on the sidelines.

I've heard that Derek Newchurch has signed at North Pines and that they are also picking up Damian Rigney from Greenacres. Expect the spiders to come home with a wet sail

Is that DN from North Haven?? No real big IN there, played Cs and really is just a very large thug and cant dispose of the footy too well, but he can find it.

[Milly]

Ha Ha thats gold mate. Welcome aboard. Just want to know how Angle Vale went about is Saturday. Did they go tall or small or was it the usual aggresive aproach? Did Ash Walker kick any to.

dunno if i can give away the secret mate [/quote]

Cmon Anderson we want to know how to beat the team Jugs says cant be beaten.

Hey footy smart what is Modbury oval looking like after the rain we just had? You unearthing any more young guns this week to?