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Footy Chick wrote:Does sound like theyre getting a pretty good deal...

They can't do anything with the "B" grade now! Maybe they should start with minus point's next year, but no way should be the "A" Grade get a deal like that. They should have points deducted this year( if the bloke is found guilty) and if that means that they are relegated to div 5 then this is there penalty. They should not be getting any special treatment to save them from relegation, Salisbury and other clubs have lost a few spots on the ladder when they where deducted points.

Congratulation to the HVFC on their B grades well deserved win, far too accomplished for our lads.
Not sure about the umpiring though, all I can say is that we expected better with so many good umpires available but received two very inept guys who were inconsistent & confusing with their decisions on both sides.

As you do when you know where your sides are going to finish there is always a scramble to qualify players which HVFC did a great job in doing and as we have certainly done in the past don't worry about that!
HVFC also applied for and got a permit for a player who played 9 A grade games and 7 B grade games. Not correct as far as the leagues ruling suggests but was given the permit based on the fact he played those last 7 games in the B's so he must be a B grader. What the?

Haven't seen the team sheet from saturday but i doubt Hope Valley would be trying to qualify A graders for their B's in the last month of the season when their A's were trying to avoid relegation. You normally get 1 or 2 guys with a permit but normally isn't the difference between winning and losing finals

beef wrote:Haven't seen the team sheet from saturday but i doubt Hope Valley would be trying to qualify A graders for their B's in the last month of the season when their A's were trying to avoid relegation. You normally get 1 or 2 guys with a permit but normally isn't the difference between winning and losing finals

Riddle - Tonkin - Wood - Slater not a bad group of players to have qualify for a B grade final.
As I said HV did nothing wrong & were too good for us on the day, no question & no sour grapes but the facts are the facts.

I have nothing to do with permits so this is a personal opinion.
On the face of it, 9 / 7 means he was one game the wrong side of the equation and the fact he played the last 7 games in the B Grade would probably have tipped the scales. I would suggest if he'd played 7 B Grade and then 9 A Grade; he would have been drinking beer at 12.15
I don't have a problem with the permit. Good common sense approach

Wazz17 wrote:

beef wrote:Haven't seen the team sheet from saturday but i doubt Hope Valley would be trying to qualify A graders for their B's in the last month of the season when their A's were trying to avoid relegation. You normally get 1 or 2 guys with a permit but normally isn't the difference between winning and losing finals

Riddle - Tonkin - Wood - Slater not a bad group of players to have qualify for a B grade final.
As I said HV did nothing wrong & were too good for us on the day, no question & no sour grapes but the facts are the facts.

Woody only played A grade in the first few rounds from memroy, he played a lot of B and a few C grade and missed about 3 or 4 games in between due to personal reasons, Slats and Benny had far from amazing form leading up to finals, hence why they ended up in B grade.

Wazz17 wrote:Congratulation to the HVFC on their B grades well deserved win, far too accomplished for our lads.
Not sure about the umpiring though, all I can say is that we expected better with so many good umpires available but received two very inept guys who were inconsistent & confusing with their decisions on both sides.

As the finals are so staggered this year, normally we'd have a crop of D2 and 3 umps available to umpire lower grade finals but they're only just finishing their minor rounds now - but round 1 of D1 finals starts on our GF day so unlikely we'll see much of the top umps.

I will say one thing though, probably the cleanest game of footy i've ever seen between the 2 sides ever

Footy Chick wrote:

Wazz17 wrote:Congratulation to the HVFC on their B grades well deserved win, far too accomplished for our lads.
Not sure about the umpiring though, all I can say is that we expected better with so many good umpires available but received two very inept guys who were inconsistent & confusing with their decisions on both sides.

As the finals are so staggered this year, normally we'd have a crop of D2 and 3 umps available to umpire lower grade finals but they're only just finishing their minor rounds now - but round 1 of D1 finals starts on our GF day so unlikely we'll see much of the top umps.

I will say one thing though, probably the cleanest game of footy i've ever seen between the 2 sides ever :lol:

Yep, Eastern Park's oval didn't have much mud on it

Wazz17 wrote:

beef wrote:Haven't seen the team sheet from saturday but i doubt Hope Valley would be trying to qualify A graders for their B's in the last month of the season when their A's were trying to avoid relegation. You normally get 1 or 2 guys with a permit but normally isn't the difference between winning and losing finals

Riddle - Tonkin - Wood - Slater not a bad group of players to have qualify for a B grade final.
As I said HV did nothing wrong & were too good for us on the day, no question & no sour grapes but the facts are the facts.

Riddle - U18 still developing played A's and B's
Tonkin - Lucky to even play B grade with his form
Wood - Has been playing C grade in the 2nd half of the year although he is a good player
Slater - Form slump and was dropped to the 2's

None of this was done with B grade finals in mind. Best 22 was picked each week as we were trying to win as many games as possible to avoid relegation. B grade success means very little in comparison to the A grade being relegated for the first time in over 10 years

S Demon wrote:

Footy Chick wrote:

Wazz17 wrote:Congratulation to the HVFC on their B grades well deserved win, far too accomplished for our lads.
Not sure about the umpiring though, all I can say is that we expected better with so many good umpires available but received two very inept guys who were inconsistent & confusing with their decisions on both sides.

As the finals are so staggered this year, normally we'd have a crop of D2 and 3 umps available to umpire lower grade finals but they're only just finishing their minor rounds now - but round 1 of D1 finals starts on our GF day so unlikely we'll see much of the top umps.

I will say one thing though, probably the cleanest game of footy i've ever seen between the 2 sides ever :lol:

Yep, Eastern Park's oval didn't have much mud on it

You weren't even there, how would you know

S Demon wrote:

Wazz17 wrote:

beef wrote:Haven't seen the team sheet from saturday but i doubt Hope Valley would be trying to qualify A graders for their B's in the last month of the season when their A's were trying to avoid relegation. You normally get 1 or 2 guys with a permit but normally isn't the difference between winning and losing finals

Riddle - Tonkin - Wood - Slater not a bad group of players to have qualify for a B grade final.
As I said HV did nothing wrong & were too good for us on the day, no question & no sour grapes but the facts are the facts.

Riddle - U18 still developing played A's and B's
Tonkin - Lucky to even play B grade with his form
Wood - Has been playing C grade in the 2nd half of the year although he is a good player
Slater - Form slump and was dropped to the 2's

None of this was done with B grade finals in mind. Best 22 was picked each week as we were trying to win as many games as possible to avoid relegation. B grade success means very little in comparison to the A grade being relegated for the first time in over 10 years

Is there an echo in the room?

The only people that care about B grade finals are the people that are playing in them and their mums.


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From what I've been told ep averaged about 6 b graders to training ! Maybe thats the reason they lost a final?

wonder_kid wrote:From what I've been told ep averaged about 6 b graders to training ! Maybe thats the reason they lost a final?

We weren't much better throughout the year from what I understand.

Footy Chick wrote:

wonder_kid wrote:From what I've been told ep averaged about 6 b graders to training ! Maybe thats the reason they lost a final?

We weren't much better throughout the year from what I understand.

You weren't even there so how would you know

S Demon wrote:

Wazz17 wrote:

beef wrote:Haven't seen the team sheet from saturday but i doubt Hope Valley would be trying to qualify A graders for their B's in the last month of the season when their A's were trying to avoid relegation. You normally get 1 or 2 guys with a permit but normally isn't the difference between winning and losing finals

Riddle - Tonkin - Wood - Slater not a bad group of players to have qualify for a B grade final.
As I said HV did nothing wrong & were too good for us on the day, no question & no sour grapes but the facts are the facts.

Riddle - U18 still developing played A's and B's
Tonkin - Lucky to even play B grade with his form
Wood - Has been playing C grade in the 2nd half of the year although he is a good player
Slater - Form slump and was dropped to the 2's

None of this was done with B grade finals in mind. Best 22 was picked each week as we were trying to win as many games as possible to avoid relegation. B grade success means very little in comparison to the A grade being relegated for the first time in over 10 years

Okay we believe you not! After 12 games the HVFC A grade was 2W/10L with 4 to go -pretty daunting stats in relation to relegation, so

Fact 1. Tonkin played B grade 4th June with his next 7 games straight in A grade. Form slump to the B's for the last round = 7A + 7B - permit granted
Fact 2. Riddle played B grade 14th May with his next 8 games straight in A grade. Played last two rounds in B's = 8A + 8B - permit granted
Fact 3. Slater played 9 x A grade before playing only 7 B grade games in the 2nd half of the season - permit granted
Fact 4. Wood played 7 x A grade games, only 2 in C grade and played the last 2 in B's = 7A + 4B + 2C - permit granted.

As I previously stated I do not have an issue with it and seriously good luck to your guys for the rest of the final series.

Given HV lost to Salisbury by less than in goal in R17, the strategy you are suggesting, may have been a little foolish.

We lost about 4 A grade games that I can think of by a goal or less

Wazz17 wrote:

S Demon wrote:

Wazz17 wrote:

beef wrote:Haven't seen the team sheet from saturday but i doubt Hope Valley would be trying to qualify A graders for their B's in the last month of the season when their A's were trying to avoid relegation. You normally get 1 or 2 guys with a permit but normally isn't the difference between winning and losing finals

Riddle - Tonkin - Wood - Slater not a bad group of players to have qualify for a B grade final.
As I said HV did nothing wrong & were too good for us on the day, no question & no sour grapes but the facts are the facts.

Riddle - U18 still developing played A's and B's
Tonkin - Lucky to even play B grade with his form
Wood - Has been playing C grade in the 2nd half of the year although he is a good player
Slater - Form slump and was dropped to the 2's

None of this was done with B grade finals in mind. Best 22 was picked each week as we were trying to win as many games as possible to avoid relegation. B grade success means very little in comparison to the A grade being relegated for the first time in over 10 years

Okay we believe you not! After 12 games the HVFC A grade was 2W/10L with 4 to go -pretty daunting stats in relation to relegation, so

Fact 1. Tonkin played B grade 4th June with his next 7 games straight in A grade. Form slump to the B's for the last round = 7A + 7B - permit granted
Fact 2. Riddle played B grade 14th May with his next 8 games straight in A grade. Played last two rounds in B's = 8A + 8B - permit granted
Fact 3. Slater played 9 x A grade before playing only 7 B grade games in the 2nd half of the season - permit granted
Fact 4. Wood played 7 x A grade games, only 2 in C grade and played the last 2 in B's = 7A + 4B + 2C - permit granted.

As I previously stated I do not have an issue with it and seriously good luck to your guys for the rest of the final series.

that is pretty damming.


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Wazz17 wrote:

S Demon wrote:

Wazz17 wrote:

beef wrote:Haven't seen the team sheet from saturday but i doubt Hope Valley would be trying to qualify A graders for their B's in the last month of the season when their A's were trying to avoid relegation. You normally get 1 or 2 guys with a permit but normally isn't the difference between winning and losing finals

Riddle - Tonkin - Wood - Slater not a bad group of players to have qualify for a B grade final.
As I said HV did nothing wrong & were too good for us on the day, no question & no sour grapes but the facts are the facts.

Riddle - U18 still developing played A's and B's
Tonkin - Lucky to even play B grade with his form
Wood - Has been playing C grade in the 2nd half of the year although he is a good player
Slater - Form slump and was dropped to the 2's

None of this was done with B grade finals in mind. Best 22 was picked each week as we were trying to win as many games as possible to avoid relegation. B grade success means very little in comparison to the A grade being relegated for the first time in over 10 years

Okay we believe you not! After 12 games the HVFC A grade was 2W/10L with 4 to go -pretty daunting stats in relation to relegation, so

Fact 1. Tonkin played B grade 4th June with his next 7 games straight in A grade. Form slump to the B's for the last round = 7A + 7B - permit granted
Fact 2. Riddle played B grade 14th May with his next 8 games straight in A grade. Played last two rounds in B's = 8A + 8B - permit granted
Fact 3. Slater played 9 x A grade before playing only 7 B grade games in the 2nd half of the season - permit granted
Fact 4. Wood played 7 x A grade games, only 2 in C grade and played the last 2 in B's = 7A + 4B + 2C - permit granted.

As I previously stated I do not have an issue with it and seriously good luck to your guys for the rest of the final series.

I can see by all your research that you clearly don't have an issue with it...