SAAFL Division 7 & D7R (2012)

[Yank Man]

Whilst I agree that was poor form from Parko, I think he went to remonstrate without realising his age, then saw it was a kid and backed off pretty quickly.

But really, there wasn't much in it. If your boundary umpire wants to keep umpiring then I would suggest he umpires kids his own age, waits until he is old enough or grows a pretty thick skin.

We are talking about senior mens football, he needs to expect some remonstration if he makes a bad call or hes in the wrong caper.

Like umpires grow on trees. Show some respect

Read my previous post. I agree 100%. The kid was fantastic under pressure, and the MP player was taken from the ground and read the riot act. At the end of the day they are both kids and require education. But seriously, this is a mans game and it requires a very special "kid" to do what he has to do. Umpires are only hard to find because we are all looking in the wrong direction. Maybe it is time for us as clubs to recruit them and the League to have training programmes. As clubs we all rely on volunteers to do our jobs but we have a bigger responsibility to the game than to throw them to the wolves.

Similiar to the game we love, kids are put into the mans game to see how they respond. Whether umpire or player, they deserve respect. Every player will stand up for a 17 year old team mate.

In my experience in div 7, the younger umpires, who are serious and not just doing it for a coke and a pie, are better than the 70+ year old umpires or the biased club umpires.

Absolutely. You know, Div 7 is the greatest developer of youth than any comp I have been associated with. Their would be 6 or 7 under 23's that would walk in to the state SAAFL team. Young umpires, young club people and young supporters, everything the league should take notice of.

[lutz]

Absolutely. You know, Div 7 is the greatest developer of youth than any comp I have been associated with. Their would be 6 or 7 under 23's that would walk in to the state SAAFL team. Young umpires, young club people and young supporters, everything the league should take notice of.

You're joking aren't ya?
I would agree that Div 7 is a great comp to develop young guys in, but I don't think there would be one player in D7 that would walk into the U23 State side.

[Freo HeaveHo]

Yep sorry yank man but that's a rediculous statement. There are plenty of very good players but that's going a bit far.

[Bigshow82]

WOW. Check out for a few days and away goes the chat on MP again. For the record Luke Mac was reported and suspended for 3 games for (on the official umps report) "slapping a player to the side of the face". Facts are he was undisciplined and regardless of the penalty got his right whack. If he was not sent off he would have been dragged and left to ponder on the bench anyway. Yes Zed he is close to big time trouble, but he has been fantastic for me in 2 seasons and a better leader you could not ask for. Guess we have all been dumb before, but he has just lifted the tally.
The Modbury Boundary ump held it all together very well. Can you ump at 14? Great to see and he was difinitive in all his decisions. The Hawks are very reliant on what happens above, as are most C grade teams, but their best is right up there. As for all the bulldust, our next challenge is Nth Pines end of story. They towelled us up by 12 goals out there last year and this will be a cracker. NP have played 40 guys in their A's in 5 rounds, Look out the team that cops them at their best. Hope it's not this week Bigshow82.

Chatting to BigShow today....full strength this week, and expect to win by 10-15 goals. Mitchell Park to have their first loss. Or was it the medical room has enough in it to field a handy A grade side? Mmmm, my memory fails me

Haha Masha you are a funny man but I think your second statement is closer to the truth. Yes Yank Man we have had a lot of guys go through the A grade so far this year and that number looks to extend this week after picking up another 3-4 injuries on the weekend. I'm sure though that the 21 blokes who take the field Saturday will do their best to get our second win on the board.

[Bigshow82]

WOW. Check out for a few days and away goes the chat on MP again. For the record Luke Mac was reported and suspended for 3 games for (on the official umps report) "slapping a player to the side of the face". Facts are he was undisciplined and regardless of the penalty got his right whack. If he was not sent off he would have been dragged and left to ponder on the bench anyway. Yes Zed he is close to big time trouble, but he has been fantastic for me in 2 seasons and a better leader you could not ask for. Guess we have all been dumb before, but he has just lifted the tally.
The Modbury Boundary ump held it all together very well. Can you ump at 14? Great to see and he was difinitive in all his decisions. The Hawks are very reliant on what happens above, as are most C grade teams, but their best is right up there. As for all the bulldust, our next challenge is Nth Pines end of story. They towelled us up by 12 goals out there last year and this will be a cracker. NP have played 40 guys in their A's in 5 rounds, Look out the team that cops them at their best. Hope it's not this week Bigshow82.

Chatting to BigShow today....full strength this week, and expect to win by 10-15 goals. Mitchell Park to have their first loss. Or was it the medical room has enough in it to field a handy A grade side? Mmmm, my memory fails me

Nothing would surprise me out there. Depends on the bus.

Bus???? Have I missed something??

[morell]

Whilst I agree that was poor form from Parko, I think he went to remonstrate without realising his age, then saw it was a kid and backed off pretty quickly.

But really, there wasn't much in it. If your boundary umpire wants to keep umpiring then I would suggest he umpires kids his own age, waits until he is old enough or grows a pretty thick skin.

We are talking about [b]senior mens football, he needs to expect some remonstration if he makes a bad call or hes in the wrong caper[/b].

In all honesty, that's probably the thing that is the most wrong in the lower grades. We are, after all, playing Div7 football in the South Australian Amateur League. To say that when an umpire makes a bad call that he should be expecting remonstration is a ridiculous attitude to have. The umpires in this grade aren't ever going to make correct decisions 100% of the time, and the quicker people can get passed this the better.

Firstly, in all honesty, if Sacred Heart are the example of the standards, ethics and morals one finds in the upper grades then I am glad to be part of the seething mass of the Division 7 serfdom. What a load of condescending rubbish.

Secondly, read the first part of my post again:

I agree that was poor form from Parko

Thirdly, I am not condoning umpire abuse at all, but, I also live in reality, not the magic land of fairy floss, marsh mellows and farts that smell like candy. I live in the reality whereby if you're an umpire, umpiring men, in a competitive contact sport, you are going to get players (and spectators) remonstrate when you make a blue. Its going to happen, it happens every Saturday, every game, up and down the divisions. If the young kid is going to be serious about umpiring, he needs to understand that and be able to deal with it, one way or another. The trick is to learn where the line is and be able to judge each circumstance and show discretion. To think otherwise is naivety and molly coddling at its worst.

Fourthly, perhaps we are struggling to find and keep umpires because we are promising an unrealistic view on the true nature of umpiring? Then when they actually get out there and some big ogre calls them a nasty name or they hear a four letter word, they think much more of it than what it really is. Maybe rather than protecting them and pretending that its not going to happen, we give them the coping mechanisms and techniques to be able to handle it. Its like people preaching abstinence is the best contraception or not letting kids play in the dirt in case they catch a cold. It is pure modern day folly.

I encourage the Modbury folks to tell him not to worry about it, get a stiff upper lip, whoever that player was is a clown and next time to tell the player precisely what he saw and to get on with the game.

Like umpires grow on trees. Show some respect

Please quote the part of my post that was disrespectful.

He was a great boundary umpire and I would encourage him to stick with it, but not if something as small and inconsequential as that incident is going to turn him away because he would be wasting his time.

[Yank Man]

WOW. Check out for a few days and away goes the chat on MP again. For the record Luke Mac was reported and suspended for 3 games for (on the official umps report) "slapping a player to the side of the face". Facts are he was undisciplined and regardless of the penalty got his right whack. If he was not sent off he would have been dragged and left to ponder on the bench anyway. Yes Zed he is close to big time trouble, but he has been fantastic for me in 2 seasons and a better leader you could not ask for. Guess we have all been dumb before, but he has just lifted the tally.
The Modbury Boundary ump held it all together very well. Can you ump at 14? Great to see and he was difinitive in all his decisions. The Hawks are very reliant on what happens above, as are most C grade teams, but their best is right up there. As for all the bulldust, our next challenge is Nth Pines end of story. They towelled us up by 12 goals out there last year and this will be a cracker. NP have played 40 guys in their A's in 5 rounds, Look out the team that cops them at their best. Hope it's not this week Bigshow82.

Chatting to BigShow today....full strength this week, and expect to win by 10-15 goals. Mitchell Park to have their first loss. Or was it the medical room has enough in it to field a handy A grade side? Mmmm, my memory fails me

Nothing would surprise me out there. Depends on the bus.

Bus???? Have I missed something??

Yeah bigshow. Depends on if the bus gets us out there on time. We were gunna fly but Edinburgh isn't close enough.

[Yank Man]

Yep sorry yank man but that's a rediculous statement. There are plenty of very good players but that's going a bit far.

Seen the results of the U23's lately. Anything is worth a try. Started something aye? We have one that would.

[Bigshow82]

Chatting to BigShow today....full strength this week, and expect to win by 10-15 goals. Mitchell Park to have their first loss. Or was it the medical room has enough in it to field a handy A grade side? Mmmm, my memory fails me

Nothing would surprise me out there. Depends on the bus.

Bus???? Have I missed something??

Yeah bigshow. Depends on if the bus gets us out there on time. We were gunna fly but Edinburgh isn't close enough.

[Lightning McQueen]

Yeah bigshow. Depends on if the bus gets us out there on time. We were gunna fly but Edinburgh isn't close enough.

Land at Parafield, it would be a good warm up jog down Kings Road.

[Executive Member]

Yeah bigshow. Depends on if the bus gets us out there on time. We were gunna fly but Edinburgh isn't close enough.

Land at Parafield, it would be a good warm up jog down Kings Road.

They may prefer Maxwell Road

[story of my life]

Mitchell Park showed on Saturday they are a hard running team, who run for eachother. It was dissapointing to see that even though they were at least 10 goals up in the 2nd quarter an onfield Mitchell Park player got in the face of the young boundary umpire (which their bench also got involved in) after a decision he made. Realistically that decision had no bearing on the game at all and the decision was to throw the ball in not a free kick to Modbury! The umpire was a 14 year old kid who umpires very well for his age and even gave 2 centre square infridgement frees to Mitchell Park later in the game.

Unfortunately this umpire is now considering not umpiring the lower division which is a shame as he is a good umpire and as we all know good help is hard to find.

Mate, I was standing real close to the bench and the coach and the asistant and a few players were telling the bloke that had a go at the umpire, to pull his head in. No official or supporter near me argued with the kid because the ball was out. And the said player did cop a decent old spray from the coach when he was dragged

[bar20]

Yeah bigshow. Depends on if the bus gets us out there on time. We were gunna fly but Edinburgh isn't close enough.

Land at Parafield, it would be a good warm up jog down Kings Road.

They may prefer Maxwell Road

To our southern friends who wouldn't understand the humor behind the 'Maxwell Road' post, lets just suggest there is a park alongside of it, where a lot of people who would like Penny Wong as PM visit.

[story of my life]

Maxwell Road it is

[HAWKBOY]

Mitchell Park showed on Saturday they are a hard running team, who run for eachother. It was dissapointing to see that even though they were at least 10 goals up in the 2nd quarter an onfield Mitchell Park player got in the face of the young boundary umpire (which their bench also got involved in) after a decision he made. Realistically that decision had no bearing on the game at all and the decision was to throw the ball in not a free kick to Modbury! The umpire was a 14 year old kid who umpires very well for his age and even gave 2 centre square infridgement frees to Mitchell Park later in the game.

Unfortunately this umpire is now considering not umpiring the lower division which is a shame as he is a good umpire and as we all know good help is hard to find.

Mate, I was standing real close to the bench and the coach and the asistant and a few players were telling the bloke that had a go at the umpire, to pull his head in. No official or supporter near me argued with the kid because the ball was out. And the said player did cop a decent old spray from the coach when he was dragged

This is a massive over reaction. Our young ump made a call, 1 player had a spit, stopped quick when he saw the size of the ump and the bench told him their general opinion of his spit. The ump picked the ball up, threw it in and everyone got on with the game. No one likes to see a young guy abused, but seriously the incident was over and the game went on. He is a good boundary umpire and will in all likelihood hear worse throughout life. Don't allow one minor incident to be blown out of all proportion. Pity the two Jenny Craig aspirants in orange couldn't get to the situation, but they failed to roll quick enough.

[bar20]

Maxwell Road it is

Opposite sex to Penny though

[story of my life]

Maxwell Road it is

Opposite sex to Penny though

[zedman]

Maxwell Road it is

Opposite sex to Penny though

hold on..isnt penny wong a man with a girls name only?

[morell]

Mitchell Park showed on Saturday they are a hard running team, who run for eachother. It was dissapointing to see that even though they were at least 10 goals up in the 2nd quarter an onfield Mitchell Park player got in the face of the young boundary umpire (which their bench also got involved in) after a decision he made. Realistically that decision had no bearing on the game at all and the decision was to throw the ball in not a free kick to Modbury! The umpire was a 14 year old kid who umpires very well for his age and even gave 2 centre square infridgement frees to Mitchell Park later in the game.

Unfortunately this umpire is now considering not umpiring the lower division which is a shame as he is a good umpire and as we all know good help is hard to find.

Mate, I was standing real close to the bench and the coach and the asistant and a few players were telling the bloke that had a go at the umpire, to pull his head in. No official or supporter near me argued with the kid because the ball was out. And the said player did cop a decent old spray from the coach when he was dragged

This is a massive over reaction. Our young ump made a call, 1 player had a spit, stopped quick when he saw the size of the ump and the bench told him their general opinion of his spit. The ump picked the ball up, threw it in and everyone got on with the game. No one likes to see a young guy abused, but seriously the incident was over and the game went on. He is a good boundary umpire and will in all likelihood hear worse throughout life. Don't allow one minor incident to be blown out of all proportion. Pity the two Jenny Craig aspirants in orange couldn't get to the situation, but they failed to roll quick enough.

[marbles]