SAAFL Div 3 & Div 3R (2011)

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Grand Finalists for 2011

CBCOC
20
8%
Flinders Park
66
26%
Golden Grove
18
7%
Mitcham
17
7%
Para Hills
12
5%
Pembroke OS
10
4%
Pooraka
13
5%
Portland
54
22%
Seaton Ramblers
8
3%
SMOSH West Lakes
32
13%
 
Total votes : 250

Re: SAAFL Div 3 & Div 3R (2011)

Postby Flipper » Tue Apr 12, 2011 4:15 pm

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Sturtman wrote:Portland won by about 10pts. Not sure what D Jarman is like as a coach during the week, but listening to his 1/4 and 3/4 addresses was suprising. Could hardly string 3 words together, the players were doing more talking then him. Hardly inspirational or motivational to his players when the game was there to be won


Mate that is a bulls!t post.... Jars had a gameplan and a few things to counteract the portland game style. He was playing is cards very close to his chest which i thought was necessary considering half of portland was listening in to the quarter time speeches. Honestly thought with his homework he was spot on.

Because he has such a high profile he is going to get a lot of stick if CBC continue putting up bad results, he will cop the brunt of it. I honestly feel like the playing group are letting him down.

We play for him. We are very lucky to have him.


Mate, you have to remember Jars was deep in enemy territory - he is always going to cop flack from people down the Port way. I think Sturtman meant that he was surprised at his coaching style more than anything.

You wont hear anything bad from me about Fud - the bloke is an absolute legend and one of the greatest players of all time, anywhere. He could hold up cue cards, or do sign language at quarter time huddles, and i still wouldnt bag him!


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Re: SAAFL Div 3 & Div 3R (2011)

Postby Flipper » Tue Apr 12, 2011 4:30 pm

bubba love wrote:i would be very surprised if cbcoc made the finals this year, they are a worse team than they were last year and still look like they're quite happy jsut to bang the ball long and hope for a mark, played a pretty boring brand of footy on the weekend


Dont think we are the only team mate. Bub you need to have a look at the bigger picture here mate. Small ground, tricky breeze changing direction, Portland midfield well on top, Portland a smaller side. Think you need to give us some credit our pressure was fantastic and would love to see the tackle count for the whole game (both sides) which created a lot of skill errors and didnt allow either team to get a run on. Think its just weird you have written us off after 2 losses by less than 10 points. One team is top of the ladder and the other is fav for the flag......... :? Cant say im too upset about being written off. We couldve very easily been 2-0 or 1-1.

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Re: SAAFL Div 3 & Div 3R (2011)

Postby Flipper » Tue Apr 12, 2011 4:34 pm

bubba love wrote:but had 12 more scoring shots than them, we dominated possesion just struggled to kick goals


Bad kicking is bad footy mate.
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Re: SAAFL Div 3 & Div 3R (2011)

Postby piccachu » Tue Apr 12, 2011 5:32 pm

Dont think we are the only team mate. Bub you need to have a look at the bigger picture here mate. Small ground, tricky breeze changing direction, Portland midfield well on top, Portland a smaller side. Think you need to give us some credit our pressure was fantastic and would love to see the tackle count for the whole game (both sides) which created a lot of skill errors and didnt allow either team to get a run on. Think its just weird you have written us off after 2 losses by less than 10 points. One team is top of the ladder and the other is fav for the flag......... Cant say im too upset about being written off. We couldve very easily been 2-0 or 1-1.


tackle count

Portland- 98
CBCOC – 76
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Re: SAAFL Div 3 & Div 3R (2011)

Postby Wild Thing » Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:07 pm

BS Count

Piccachu - 1
Everyone else - 0

AFL teams are at those levels - this is Div 3 amateurs. Do you want to make any other stats up?
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Re: SAAFL Div 3 & Div 3R (2011)

Postby FRED » Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:49 pm

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Dont think we are the only team mate. Bub you need to have a look at the bigger picture here mate. Small ground, tricky breeze changing direction, Portland midfield well on top, Portland a smaller side. Think you need to give us some credit our pressure was fantastic and would love to see the tackle count for the whole game (both sides) which created a lot of skill errors and didnt allow either team to get a run on. Think its just weird you have written us off after 2 losses by less than 10 points. One team is top of the ladder and the other is fav for the flag......... Cant say im too upset about being written off. We couldve very easily been 2-0 or 1-1.


tackle count

Portland- 98
CBCOC – 76

What qualifies a tackle? Ive seen people taking stats and some of the "TACKLES" they record are ridiculous. Surely to qualify as an effective tackle you must stop the player from getting an effective disposal?
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Re: SAAFL Div 3 & Div 3R (2011)

Postby piccachu » Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:15 am

AFL teams are at those levels - this is Div 3 amateurs. Do you want to make any other stats up?


i dont no what the person that did the stats qualified as a tackle but they are the stats from the weekends game. as you said AFL are at that levell but obviously Div 3 amateurs is much scrappier than AFL specialy the Portland CBCOC game on the weekend so IMO the tackle count would be alot higher along with clangers & ineffective disposals
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Re: SAAFL Div 3 & Div 3R (2011)

Postby turbo182 » Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:10 am

piccachu wrote:
AFL teams are at those levels - this is Div 3 amateurs. Do you want to make any other stats up?


i dont no what the person that did the stats qualified as a tackle but they are the stats from the weekends game. as you said AFL are at that levell but obviously Div 3 amateurs is much scrappier than AFL specialy the Portland CBCOC game on the weekend so IMO the tackle count would be alot higher along with clangers & ineffective disposals


On that theory though, the SANFL should have more tackles then AFL, but the opposite happens. Slower speed of the game would mean less tackles. (IMO)

I don't doubt the count, its probably more what classifies as a tackle according to the statistician. Might have marked one down everytime he scratched his own tackle for all i know.

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Re: SAAFL Div 3 & Div 3R (2011)

Postby piccachu » Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:37 am

On that theory though, the SANFL should have more tackles then AFL, but the opposite happens. Slower speed of the game would mean less tackles. (IMO)



i understand that but the Thunder Dome is an extremely small and congested oval and CBCOC did a good job of slowing the game right down and clogging it up resulting in plenty of stoppages and tackles, i think the tackle count wouldnt be to far off
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Re: SAAFL Div 3 & Div 3R (2011)

Postby Choccies » Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:40 pm

I don't really know what to make of the 'tackles' stat really...... I know it's important and it's a valuable part of the pressure you put on your opponents but I can't get it out of my head that if you're tackling lots it means you're second to the ball...
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Re: SAAFL Div 3 & Div 3R (2011)

Postby piccachu » Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:59 pm

I don't really know what to make of the 'tackles' stat really...... I know it's important and it's a valuable part of the pressure you put on your opponents but I can't get it out of my head that if you're tackling lots it means you're second to the ball...



i totally agree, Flipper wanted to see the tackle count and i produced it, should be concertrating more on 50/50s won rather than tackles
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Re: SAAFL Div 3 & Div 3R (2011)

Postby Choccies » Wed Apr 13, 2011 1:01 pm

piccachu wrote:
I don't really know what to make of the 'tackles' stat really...... I know it's important and it's a valuable part of the pressure you put on your opponents but I can't get it out of my head that if you're tackling lots it means you're second to the ball...



i totally agree, Flipper wanted to see the tackle count and i produced it, should be concertrating more on 50/50s won rather than tackles


Yep exactly. That stat tells me more about how much we put our body on the line and want the ball rather than how many times we've hugged an opponent !!
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Re: SAAFL Div 3 & Div 3R (2011)

Postby The Chump is here... » Wed Apr 13, 2011 2:20 pm

piccachu wrote:
On that theory though, the SANFL should have more tackles then AFL, but the opposite happens. Slower speed of the game would mean less tackles. (IMO)



i understand that but the Thunder Dome is an extremely small and congested oval and CBCOC did a good job of slowing the game right down and clogging it up resulting in plenty of stoppages and tackles, i think the tackle count wouldnt be to far off


Excuse my ignorance but when did Portland put a roof over their ground? I am asuming this as Piccachu has refered to Portland's home ground as the Thunder Dome. Only having a roof over the ground would justify this. Anything other would be a rediculous/stupid term for an outdoor oval.
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Re: SAAFL Div 3 & Div 3R (2011)

Postby johnnyryan » Wed Apr 13, 2011 2:39 pm

The Chump is here... wrote:
piccachu wrote:
On that theory though, the SANFL should have more tackles then AFL, but the opposite happens. Slower speed of the game would mean less tackles. (IMO)



i understand that but the Thunder Dome is an extremely small and congested oval and CBCOC did a good job of slowing the game right down and clogging it up resulting in plenty of stoppages and tackles, i think the tackle count wouldnt be to far off


Excuse my ignorance but when did Portland put a roof over their ground? I am asuming this as Piccachu has refered to Portland's home ground as the Thunder Dome. Only having a roof over the ground would justify this. Anything other would be a rediculous/stupid term for an outdoor oval.

Thunder dome? Im not familiar with that term
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Re: SAAFL Div 3 & Div 3R (2011)

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Re: SAAFL Div 3 & Div 3R (2011)

Postby The Chump is here... » Wed Apr 13, 2011 2:54 pm

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That does explain a lot. 3/4 of the whole Portland club would not look out of place on the set of Mad Max.
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Re: SAAFL Div 3 & Div 3R (2011)

Postby Q. » Wed Apr 13, 2011 2:57 pm

Choccies wrote:
piccachu wrote:
I don't really know what to make of the 'tackles' stat really...... I know it's important and it's a valuable part of the pressure you put on your opponents but I can't get it out of my head that if you're tackling lots it means you're second to the ball...



i totally agree, Flipper wanted to see the tackle count and i produced it, should be concertrating more on 50/50s won rather than tackles


Yep exactly. That stat tells me more about how much we put our body on the line and want the ball rather than how many times we've hugged an opponent !!


Not necessarily, but it's probably better to narrow the focus of the stat to 'tackles inside FWD 50m' because you'll create more scoring opportunities if you can get the opposition to turn it over in your attacking half.
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Re: SAAFL Div 3 & Div 3R (2011)

Postby Flipper » Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:16 pm

piccachu wrote:
Dont think we are the only team mate. Bub you need to have a look at the bigger picture here mate. Small ground, tricky breeze changing direction, Portland midfield well on top, Portland a smaller side. Think you need to give us some credit our pressure was fantastic and would love to see the tackle count for the whole game (both sides) which created a lot of skill errors and didnt allow either team to get a run on. Think its just weird you have written us off after 2 losses by less than 10 points. One team is top of the ladder and the other is fav for the flag......... Cant say im too upset about being written off. We couldve very easily been 2-0 or 1-1.


tackle count

Portland- 98
CBCOC – 76


On average a CBC player laid 3.6 tackles and was tackled 4.6 times (vice versa for portland).

Dont think it is too far fetched, 100% accurate no.

Wanted the tackle count to better explain the game as a whole and how it was played.
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Re: SAAFL Div 3 & Div 3R (2011)

Postby turbo182 » Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:02 am

Para Hills v Pembroke OS @The Paddocks - Para Hills to get off the mark at home.
Seaton Ramblers v CBCOC @ Pedlar Reserve - Seaton, just. A very good side at home.
Pooraka v Mitcham @ Lindblom Park - pretty impressive side at home Pooraka. Mitcham will have to come read to play, and keep on an eye on the Bulls runners. Some very quick movement was the key to their win last week.I'm going with the Bulls.
Flinders Park v Portland @ Flinders Park Oval - Clash of the round. BE interesting to see how FP repsond from their unexpected loss last week, and how they stand up to the Portland Physicality. Portland in a nail-biter for me.
SMOSH West Lakes v Golden Grove @ West Lakes Shore Oval - Expect ourselves to atone for last weeks performance with a win in our first home game. Expecting a bloody good contest from GG, and wont' be taking them lightly, the same as every other club in this years comp!

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Re: SAAFL Div 3 & Div 3R (2011)

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