SANFL Junior codes

[redyellow&blue]

SANFL Jnrs is an absolute rabble.

******* shit show

I sit here and remember the meeting about the AdFL taking over juniors and how some of the self interested parties kybwashed it by alleging the AdFL just wanted to grab their associations' funds (of which there was SFA and the AdFL had/has plenty of money)

Same people eventually had to do a deal with the SANFL
The AdFL probably dodged a bullet.

The actual vote for Nemjfa to join ADFL was won and approved.

Backdoor SACFL and SAnFL shennanigans and threats of disaffiliation should the ADFL go through with acceptance of the vote killed it.

The SANFL always wanted a program to rival college at the expense of clubs, because thats the only place thy could get the kids from.

[redyellow&blue]

Youngest daughter’s team has gone down a div after being smashed every week so far. The team we played on the weekend were also winless but easily accounted for us by over 10 goals. The opposition players were having a go at their own teammates if they kicked a goal. “You’re supposed to miss so we can go down!!!”…
Yep, they got put down a div too.

Name the club

NAme and shame. nothing changes without some conflict.

[Spargo]

Youngest daughter’s team has gone down a div after being smashed every week so far. The team we played on the weekend were also winless but easily accounted for us by over 10 goals. The opposition players were having a go at their own teammates if they kicked a goal. “You’re supposed to miss so we can go down!!!”…
Yep, they got put down a div too.

Henley?

Yep.

[Dutchy]

To be fair that might just be the kids talking about it, its only natural for kids to discuss if they may move up or down and the coach may not have anything to do with it.

[wenchbarwer]

To be fair that might just be the kids talking about it, its only natural for kids to discuss if they may move up or down and the coach may not have anything to do with it.

Yeah, absolutely this is true.
However, I've had experiences involving this club for quite a while, and I'm pretty sure I ain't the only one

[Brodlach]

Youngest daughter’s team has gone down a div after being smashed every week so far. The team we played on the weekend were also winless but easily accounted for us by over 10 goals. The opposition players were having a go at their own teammates if they kicked a goal. “You’re supposed to miss so we can go down!!!”…
Yep, they got put down a div too.

Careful, that sounds like whinging...

[The Bedge]

I was trying to explain to one of our junior coaches the other week how some bigger clubs are notorious for working the system and making sure they either avoid promotion or get relegated.. he couldn't believe it, and couldn't wrap his head around it.

That weekend, he played the side which believed to be the biggest threat, flogged them, first thing coach said post-game "Yeah we rested our 4x best players today"

Then on the flip side, I've got parents / team within the club angry and asking the club to appeal to the SANFL to have them re-graded to a lower division - I'm sure for no other reason than to win.. like bad luck, suck it up FFS.

Regrading should be stamped out unless there is an obvious unbalance in divisions.. if you have a tough year, so be it.. but this whole focus on re-grading so you can improve your chances at a jnr flag no one will remember is rubbish.

[MW]

100% regrading should be eliminated. Should go on last years results only and its up to the clubs to keep or develop their juniors.

[wenchbarwer]

That's the problem though, everyone wants to be a winner, no-one has any resilience anymore.

[wenchbarwer]

I'm sure I remember a grading round the week before the season started.
Teams were penciled in in their divisions, based on previous results, and played a handful of mini games against one another to confirm it. Only on rare exceptions did clubs change grades.

Or am I just imagining this?

[The Bedge]

Imagining it

[locky801]

I'm sure I remember a grading round the week before the season started.
Teams were penciled in in their divisions, based on previous results, and played a handful of mini games against one another to confirm it. Only on rare exceptions did clubs change grades.

Or am I just imagining this?

Nope it happened back in my time as Junior Pres at Broadies, was a fair system, once the ball bounced for round 1 there was no changing

[wenchbarwer]

I'm sure I remember a grading round the week before the season started.
Teams were penciled in in their divisions, based on previous results, and played a handful of mini games against one another to confirm it. Only on rare exceptions did clubs change grades.

Or am I just imagining this?

Nope it happened back in my time as Junior Pres at Broadies, was a fair system, once the ball bounced for round 1 there was no changing

I thought so

Imagining it

[Pag]

Not sure how we ever survived back in the CDJFL, NEMJFA, MWJFL etc, although to be fair it's these kids that have now become parents causing most of the problems. Played the same teams every year with minimal movement of players. There were some beltings but you played against other kids in the local area who you ended up becoming friends with as time went on, especially those who played rep footy/development squads etc, and as you moved to high school some of those oppo mates became best friends.

On another note, I don't give a crap who my seven-year old daughter plays against in the U8 Girls comp, just let me know whether I have Friday nights or Sundays free for the next 12 weeks please so I can plan the rest of my life. Surely the non-ladder comps can be done from the start of the season?

[wenchbarwer]

Not sure how we ever survived back in the CDJFL, NEMJFA, MWJFL etc, although to be fair it's these kids that have now become parents causing most of the problems. Played the same teams every year with minimal movement of players. There were some beltings but you played against other kids in the local area who you ended up becoming friends with as time went on, especially those who played rep footy/development squads etc, and as you moved to high school some of those oppo mates became best friends.

On another note, I don't give a crap who my seven-year old daughter plays against in the U8 Girls comp, just let me know whether I have Friday nights or Sundays free for the next 12 weeks please so I can plan the rest of my life. Surely the non-ladder comps can be done from the start of the season?

This hasn't been done yet? Would have thought this would be the simplest to handle as they usually either play first thing or on Friday nights. That way you have oval availability identified once the premiership regrading has finished.

[locky801]

I'm sure I remember a grading round the week before the season started.
Teams were penciled in in their divisions, based on previous results, and played a handful of mini games against one another to confirm it. Only on rare exceptions did clubs change grades.

Or am I just imagining this?

Nope it happened back in my time as Junior Pres at Broadies, was a fair system, once the ball bounced for round 1 there was no changing

I thought so

Imagining it

that was about 15 years ago though

[Lightning McQueen]

Not sure how we ever survived back in the CDJFL, NEMJFA, MWJFL etc, although to be fair it's these kids that have now become parents causing most of the problems. Played the same teams every year with minimal movement of players. There were some beltings but you played against other kids in the local area who you ended up becoming friends with as time went on, especially those who played rep footy/development squads etc, and as you moved to high school some of those oppo mates became best friends.

On another note, I don't give a crap who my seven-year old daughter plays against in the U8 Girls comp, just let me know whether I have Friday nights or Sundays free for the next 12 weeks please so I can plan the rest of my life. Surely the non-ladder comps can be done from the start of the season?

This hasn't been done yet? Would have thought this would be the simplest to handle as they usually either play first thing or on Friday nights. That way you have oval availability identified once the premiership regrading has finished.

It affects the television rights so the big Under 12 Div Two clash gets the prime timeslot.

[wenchbarwer]

that was about 15 years ago though

Hence me asking if I imagined it or not, the memory ain;t what it used to be...

[gadj1976]

I was trying to explain to one of our junior coaches the other week how some bigger clubs are notorious for working the system and making sure they either avoid promotion or get relegated.. he couldn't believe it, and couldn't wrap his head around it.

That weekend, he played the side which believed to be the biggest threat, flogged them, first thing coach said post-game "Yeah we rested our 4x best players today"

Then on the flip side, I've got parents / team within the club angry and asking the club to appeal to the SANFL to have them re-graded to a lower division - I'm sure for no other reason than to win.. like bad luck, suck it up FFS.

Regrading should be stamped out unless there is an obvious unbalance in divisions.. if you have a tough year, so be it.. but this whole focus on re-grading so you can improve your chances at a jnr flag no one will remember is rubbish.

This is one of the issues I have with the SANFL. They should be looking at votes and team lists before putting teams up and down. If they do, then it's not working. If they don't then they need to. Resting 4 best players (who potentially would've got votes either last year or this year, or are in club's best players) should be easily distinguishable and that game should not be considered as part of the discussion around regrading.

[Down the Hill]

If I'm not mistaken the district junior leagues had team and player caps which made fixturing and grading (if even required) quite simple. But that brings up the old chestnut of "kids won't play at all if they can't play at the club of choice". Would NEMJA have been the only one with enough clubs to have more than one division for some age groups?

But the SANFL has created part of the problem for their own Junior League by expanding the SANFL to a full season of U16. And now the other quasi SANFL comps for younger age groups is seeing kids and parents decide that school and SANFL club commitments are enough so let's drop the local club footy.

It means that last year's U14 to U16 teams can have a much different look to this year's U15 to U17.5 team for some clubs. Thats if you can even a field a team in the next age level up from the year before.