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Re: COVID-19

PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 7:55 am
by Lightning McQueen
It's still a couple of months away, it will probably be just like the flu by then and we'll just learn to live with it, until the season starts I think we'll all be jumping at shadows.

Someone said on here earlier, that 14 round proposal is looking pretty bloody good right about now, it's gonna be a weird season that's for sure.

Re: COVID-19

PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:26 am
by Footy Chick
Lightning McQueen wrote:, it will probably be just like the flu by then

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That's what they said 2 years ago

Re: COVID-19

PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:35 am
by LaughingKookaburra
Lightning McQueen wrote:It's still a couple of months away, it will probably be just like the flu by then and we'll just learn to live with it, until the season starts I think we'll all be jumping at shadows.

Someone said on here earlier, that 14 round proposal is looking pretty bloody good right about now, it's gonna be a weird season that's for sure.


14 rounds absolutely looks like a good alternative, however would anyone be shocked if we ended up doing 9 rounds again? I’m only saying this as moving forward even if it becomes like the flu, it’s still going to be socially irresponsible and unacceptable to mingle in public with Covid or having Covid symptoms. Until boosters are in 80-90% of people’s based on the current scenario’s we’re going to see clubs with some weeks 15-20 people missing games just from Covid let alone other injuries. Don’t get me wrong, there will come a stage where we will have to live with it, however as a society we aren’t anywhere near that yet and with State and Federal elections approaching you can’t see a loosening of the belt in case it gets out of control.

It’s something that’s going to become a massive topic by mid-late Feb I’d suspect.

Re: COVID-19

PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:49 am
by jo172
Fortunately I'm out of the running a football club game, but if I still was I'd be significantly concerned that a large number of the volunteers (be it time keepers, team managers etc) are in an age range (and due to steady diets of west end and winfield blues have significant co-morbidities) that it's going to be very difficult if not impossible to run a season safely.

Alternatively, these are the blokes who effectively keep the trains on the track. Lose them and it becomes impossible to run a season

Re: COVID-19

PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:00 am
by jumbo20
Thats a great point, let alone the issues of umpires.

Re: COVID-19

PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:49 am
by scottroo
For the season to get underway the close contact rule is going to need to change to 4 hours indoors

At the moment if you go to after match presos for an hour and someone has covid you’re a close contact (let’s not deny that blokes will be walking around socialising with different people) if this is the case and there’s a positive amongst the group, we could see whole teams or clubs as close contacts

Re: COVID-19

PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:34 am
by Footy Chick
jo172 wrote:Fortunately I'm out of the running a football club game, but if I still was I'd be significantly concerned that a large number of the volunteers (be it time keepers, team managers etc) are in an age range (and due to steady diets of west end and winfield blues have significant co-morbidities) that it's going to be very difficult if not impossible to run a season safely.

Alternatively, these are the blokes who effectively keep the trains on the track. Lose them and it becomes impossible to run a season


You do realise that you just described Owen, don't you... :lol:

Masters have got it right, just play once every two weeks :lol:

Re: COVID-19

PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:35 am
by jo172
Let alone the obvious problem of a person playing B Grade on a Saturday morning while infectious (and not knowing).

Then it takes until Wednesday morning for the person to learn of their infection and to communicate to the various stakeholders. In the mean time both clubs have conducted Tuesday night training such that unknowing close contacts, who just played a contact sport with someone while infectious, have mingled, while they may be infectious, with their club's entire playing group in a contact sport environment.

Quite conceivable that by the following Saturday two entire clubs are wiped out.

Re: COVID-19

PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:35 am
by jo172
Footy Chick wrote:
jo172 wrote:Fortunately I'm out of the running a football club game, but if I still was I'd be significantly concerned that a large number of the volunteers (be it time keepers, team managers etc) are in an age range (and due to steady diets of west end and winfield blues have significant co-morbidities) that it's going to be very difficult if not impossible to run a season safely.

Alternatively, these are the blokes who effectively keep the trains on the track. Lose them and it becomes impossible to run a season


You do realise that you just described Owen, don't you... :lol:



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Re: COVID-19

PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:36 am
by The Bedge
jo172 wrote:Let alone the obvious problem of a person playing B Grade on a Saturday morning while infectious (and not knowing).

Then it takes until Wednesday morning for the person to learn of their infection and to communicate to the various stakeholders. In the mean time both clubs have conducted Tuesday night training such that unknowing close contacts, who just played a contact sport with someone while infectious, have mingled, while they may be infectious, with their club's entire playing group in a contact sport environment.

Quite conceivable that by the following Saturday two entire clubs are wiped out.

B/C graders dont train Tuesday's silly :P

Re: COVID-19

PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:42 am
by jo172
A mitigation measure would be for everyone to take a RAT before playing and training.

But this would be extremely cost and logistically prohibitive one would suspect.

This is how I understand the NRL proposes for the season to proceed.

Re: COVID-19

PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:45 am
by whufc
scottroo wrote:For the season to get underway the close contact rule is going to need to change to 4 hours indoors

At the moment if you go to after match presos for an hour and someone has covid you’re a close contact (let’s not deny that blokes will be walking around socialising with different people) if this is the case and there’s a positive amongst the group, we could see whole teams or clubs as close contacts


Yep you could definitely see an entire club ruled out in one night......surely the rules change by then.

For arguments sake if you lost that 'community' 'club' feel by not being able to have pressos would you still want games to go ahead or would you prefer they just call the season.

Re: COVID-19

PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:56 am
by Jimmy_041
Footy Chick wrote:
jo172 wrote:Fortunately I'm out of the running a football club game, but if I still was I'd be significantly concerned that a large number of the volunteers (be it time keepers, team managers etc) are in an age range (and due to steady diets of west end and winfield blues have significant co-morbidities) that it's going to be very difficult if not impossible to run a season safely.

Alternatively, these are the blokes who effectively keep the trains on the track. Lose them and it becomes impossible to run a season


You do realise that you just described Owen, don't you... :lol:

Masters have got it right, just play once every two weeks :lol:


Probably could have done that with 8 team comps

Re: COVID-19

PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 12:08 pm
by scottroo
whufc wrote:
scottroo wrote:For the season to get underway the close contact rule is going to need to change to 4 hours indoors

At the moment if you go to after match presos for an hour and someone has covid you’re a close contact (let’s not deny that blokes will be walking around socialising with different people) if this is the case and there’s a positive amongst the group, we could see whole teams or clubs as close contacts


Yep you could definitely see an entire club ruled out in one night......surely the rules change by then.

For arguments sake if you lost that 'community' 'club' feel by not being able to have pressos would you still want games to go ahead or would you prefer they just call the season.


For many clubs it wouldn’t be viable to keep playing without generating income from bars on Saturday’s and training days

Re: COVID-19

PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 12:47 pm
by Lightning McQueen
Footy Chick wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:, it will probably be just like the flu by then

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That's what they said 2 years ago


And it is.

Re: COVID-19

PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 12:50 pm
by Lightning McQueen
LaughingKookaburra wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:It's still a couple of months away, it will probably be just like the flu by then and we'll just learn to live with it, until the season starts I think we'll all be jumping at shadows.

Someone said on here earlier, that 14 round proposal is looking pretty bloody good right about now, it's gonna be a weird season that's for sure.


14 rounds absolutely looks like a good alternative, however would anyone be shocked if we ended up doing 9 rounds again? I’m only saying this as moving forward even if it becomes like the flu, it’s still going to be socially irresponsible and unacceptable to mingle in public with Covid or having Covid symptoms. Until boosters are in 80-90% of people’s based on the current scenario’s we’re going to see clubs with some weeks 15-20 people missing games just from Covid let alone other injuries. Don’t get me wrong, there will come a stage where we will have to live with it, however as a society we aren’t anywhere near that yet and with State and Federal elections approaching you can’t see a loosening of the belt in case it gets out of control.

It’s something that’s going to become a massive topic by mid-late Feb I’d suspect.


We get 6 cases mid last year some time and everything gets locked down, we get over 5000 cases in a day and it's meh!!

We can't live in fear forever or there will be no shopping, no going out and more importantly, no contact sport.

Re: COVID-19

PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 1:35 pm
by LaughingKookaburra
It’s not about living in fear, the issue is being in the wrong place at the wrong time and each time that happens you’re in lockdown or sick for 7-10 days. If you’re self employed or someone that requires to be on the road for your job that’s a massive whack to cop.

Re: COVID-19

PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:27 pm
by Dutchy
LaughingKookaburra wrote:It’s not about living in fear, the issue is being in the wrong place at the wrong time and each time that happens you’re in lockdown or sick for 7-10 days. If you’re self employed or someone that requires to be on the road for your job that’s a massive whack to cop.


There will be so many asymptomatic and dont even know they have it, not going to be able to control it anymore like we have/are currently.

Re: COVID-19

PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:51 pm
by The Bedge
Is there not a point where we will reach either (close enough) to fully vaccinated population and/or herd immunity ?

Re: COVID-19

PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:24 pm
by Jimmy_041
The Bedge wrote:Is there not a point where we will reach either (close enough) to fully vaccinated population and/or herd immunity ?


Unless, the country grows up; not in the immediate future
If ever the shocking ineptitude of the political class could be exposed; you’ve seen it and will continue to see it
The Australian public have done almost everything asked of them; only to be let down by these idiots and their supporters