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Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 5 - 2019

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:52 pm
by Brodlach
So the ball was kicked, then siren, then landed out on the full?

Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 5 - 2019

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:52 pm
by The Bedge
whufc wrote:Which EP player was suspended

Religious person? Think they were a nun..

Nun yabusiness 8)

Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 5 - 2019

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:53 pm
by The Bedge
Pag wrote:
The Bedge wrote:Cuppla Pulteney folk headed out Saturday night to watch the HV v SAL game.. reckon was an interesting and controversial finish to the game?

Absolute scenes I hear.

Ball was kicked out of a stoppage, flew toward the boundary, siren went. Bit of confusion as to whether it was paid out on the full or not. Umpires deemed the siren went as the ball was still in play, and called time. Another second or two and Valleys would've had a shot to win it.

Huge crowd, lights were great, clubrooms were packed after the game when I went in for a drink. Great setup out there at HV.

And an overturned HV goal?

Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 5 - 2019

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:56 pm
by S Demon
Brodlach wrote:So the ball was kicked, then siren, then landed out on the full?

Yes

Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 5 - 2019

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:58 pm
by Brodlach
S Demon wrote:
Brodlach wrote:So the ball was kicked, then siren, then landed out on the full?

Yes


Not completely knowing the rules I would have thought that was OOF. If you kick for goal and it’s still in the air it counts.

Thoughts @Lightning McQueen

Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 5 - 2019

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:01 pm
by Lightning McQueen
Brodlach wrote:
S Demon wrote:
Brodlach wrote:So the ball was kicked, then siren, then landed out on the full?

Yes


Not completely knowing the rules I would have thought that was OOF. If you kill for goal and it’s still in the air it counts.

Thoughts @Lightening McQueen


I was wondering the same thing but then differentiated the two situations as you don't pay a mark if someone kicks the ball before the siren then it's marked after it.

I would've called game over there and then, or hoped the ball was in the other umpires control.

Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 5 - 2019

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:06 pm
by Brodlach
That is a good point but that is a “second action’. I would have thought where the ball landed was of importance

Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 5 - 2019

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:10 pm
by whufc
Yeah I would never have know the rule.

It does make sense the way it was ruled as in the example of marking it after the siren goes.

For umpiring purposes though I feel like it would generally be easier to determine where the ball has landed (if you were to pay it) than it could be to determine where the ball exactly is at time of siren going. Does the ball have to have landed or does it just need to cross the white line before the siren.

Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 5 - 2019

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:15 pm
by S Demon
whufc wrote:Yeah I would never have know the rule.

It does make sense the way it was ruled as in the example of marking it after the siren goes.

For umpiring purposes though I feel like it would generally be easier to determine where the ball has landed (if you were to pay it) than it could be to determine where the ball exactly is at time of siren going. Does the ball have to have landed or does it just need to cross the white line before the siren.

A lot of Salisbury spectators rushing onto the field to celebrate the win only added to the confusion

Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 5 - 2019

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:17 pm
by whufc
S Demon wrote:
whufc wrote:Yeah I would never have know the rule.

It does make sense the way it was ruled as in the example of marking it after the siren goes.

For umpiring purposes though I feel like it would generally be easier to determine where the ball has landed (if you were to pay it) than it could be to determine where the ball exactly is at time of siren going. Does the ball have to have landed or does it just need to cross the white line before the siren.

A lot of Salisbury spectators rushing onto the field to celebrate the win only added to the confusion


Yeah understandable that there was a lot of confusion from literally all parties. Very unique situation.

Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 5 - 2019

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:18 pm
by The Ash Man
Pag wrote:
The Bedge wrote:Cuppla Pulteney folk headed out Saturday night to watch the HV v SAL game.. reckon was an interesting and controversial finish to the game?

Absolute scenes I hear.

Ball was kicked out of a stoppage, flew toward the boundary, siren went. Bit of confusion as to whether it was paid out on the full or not. Umpires deemed the siren went as the ball was still in play, and called time. Another second or two and Valleys would've had a shot to win it.

Huge crowd, lights were great, clubrooms were packed after the game when I went in for a drink. Great setup out there at HV.


I think the goal umpires decision before this was more controversial


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Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 5 - 2019

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:25 pm
by The Bedge
Law 10.4.2: A Free Kick will not be awarded where the football has been kicked and, after the field Umpire has heard the siren, lands Out of Bounds On the Full.

Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 5 - 2019

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:26 pm
by Brodlach
Well done to the umpires for knowing that rule, watched footy for nearly 50 years and never knew that rule

Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 5 - 2019

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:27 pm
by S Demon
The Ash Man wrote:
Pag wrote:
The Bedge wrote:Cuppla Pulteney folk headed out Saturday night to watch the HV v SAL game.. reckon was an interesting and controversial finish to the game?

Absolute scenes I hear.

Ball was kicked out of a stoppage, flew toward the boundary, siren went. Bit of confusion as to whether it was paid out on the full or not. Umpires deemed the siren went as the ball was still in play, and called time. Another second or two and Valleys would've had a shot to win it.

Huge crowd, lights were great, clubrooms were packed after the game when I went in for a drink. Great setup out there at HV.


I think the goal umpires decision before this was more controversial


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My understanding was the goal umpire thought it was a goal and the field umpire over ruled him?

Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 5 - 2019

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:30 pm
by Lightning McQueen
Brodlach wrote:Well done to the umpires for knowing that rule, watched footy for nearly 50 years and never knew that rule

Thanks, I'll take a pick of the board please.

Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 5 - 2019

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:33 pm
by S Demon
The Bedge wrote:Law 10.4.2: A Free Kick will not be awarded where the football has been kicked and, after the field Umpire has heard the siren, lands Out of Bounds On the Full.

Well there you go!

Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 5 - 2019

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:36 pm
by Brodlach
And here’s your prize

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Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 5 - 2019

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:30 pm
by Jimmy_041
Brodlach wrote:Well done to the umpires for knowing that rule, watched footy for nearly 50 years and never knew that rule


I umpired for 3 years. Spent every Saturday night resting my legs and searching the rule book for some obscure incident.
Its amazing what can happen to you when umpiring that never happened whilst playing 300 games!

Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 5 - 2019

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:07 pm
by The Bedge
Jimmy_041 wrote:Spent every Saturday night resting my legs and searching the rule book for some obscure incident.

What a riveting Saturday night you party animal.

Geek. :lol:

Re: Adelaide Footy League Division 5 - 2019

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:55 pm
by Demon Juke
whufc wrote:Which EP player was suspended


Nathan Leonard