SAAFL Division 7 2013

[Half Back Flanker]

I suppose only time will tell.........

[johnny bravo]

Bahaha am hoping Q is running the show up there cos he claiming already without playing a game that houghton are too good for this comp and are walk up champions

The only thing a relegated side in any division currently is, is a team who has more expertise in losing than the hardness of victory and just because your looking pretty in febuary with your newly painted changeroom shed in the background doesnt qualify u the right to dismiss teams whos boots are still coated with mud of victory

angle vale are the front runner in this comp cos they know how to win. North pines too if their commitee has pushed for expansion

and what exactly have they won?? They lack depth and you're only as good as your last 5 or 6 players in the A Grade in any division, you'll get found out if they're not up to scratch which Angle Vale have the past couple of years. I heard they've lost their best player Jarrod Gordon too.

[Yank Man]

2 new teams coming into div 7 this year (Ingle Farm & Houghton) that together have won a massive 7 games from 36 matches in the last 12 months but yet theyre standout premiership favourites phht what a joke

hardly renowned for winning.

You are amazing marbles, Mitchell Park won 4 games in 2009 and 1 in 2010 in Div6 then 11 in Div 7 in 2011 and won a Div 7 flag in 2012. BIG gap between 6 and 7. You should know that.

[marbles]

2 new teams coming into div 7 this year (Ingle Farm & Houghton) that together have won a massive 7 games from 36 matches in the last 12 months but yet theyre standout premiership favourites phht what a joke

hardly renowned for winning.

You are amazing marbles, Mitchell Park won 4 games in 2009 and 1 in 2010 in Div6 then 11 in Div 7 in 2011 and won a Div 7 flag in 2012. BIG gap between 6 and 7. You should know that.

ha-har my zap to the system has caused ripples so far out to wake up hibernation-Yankman

any observer will note that 50% of posters on this forum are either from Ingle Farm or Houghton lol im just sick of the high horse crap being posted like they have already got it all won, when in reality both sides are walking in on little ponies that have done sweet F-All these past 2 years

off-field passion from club directors who played the game 20 years ago is terrific, but it is the players going out to war each week, and im telling u with my utmost conviction that these soldiers coming down from relegation will STILL be carrying the trauma of being 20 goal whipped each week. A pure coach would know his men would still be a little fragile

yes theyll be contenders but by no way are they TITANS

[Yank Man]

2 new teams coming into div 7 this year (Ingle Farm & Houghton) that together have won a massive 7 games from 36 matches in the last 12 months but yet theyre standout premiership favourites phht what a joke

hardly renowned for winning.

You are amazing marbles, Mitchell Park won 4 games in 2009 and 1 in 2010 in Div6 then 11 in Div 7 in 2011 and won a Div 7 flag in 2012. BIG gap between 6 and 7. You should know that.

ha-har my zap to the system has caused ripples so far out to wake up hibernation-Yankman

any observer will note that 50% of posters on this forum are either from Ingle Farm or Houghton lol im just sick of the high horse crap being posted like they have already got it all won, when in reality both sides are walking in on little ponies that have done sweet F-All these past 2 years

off-field passion from club directors who played the game 20 years ago is terrific, but it is the players going out to war each week, and im telling u with my utmost conviction that these soldiers coming down from relegation will STILL be carrying the trauma of being 20 goal whipped each week. A pure coach would know his men would still be a little fragile

yes theyll be contenders but by no way are they TITANS

Been reading all along champ, hahaha. I actually agree with that, the passion will be there and I experienced that in 2011 at the den. It took 2 years to believe they could win consistantly. Contenders yes, flag favourites not yet.

[The Cows]

I just sit back and laugh at all this crap. Gotta love the Jan/Feb/March merry go round!!!!!
I would expect all A grade sides in this comp to be confident, after all you are A grade teams.
I would think that if Nth Pines have kept their side together and maybe picked up a couple they might be around the mark. Good midfield and hard at it!!
The good thing about being a C grade side is nobody knows what is happening at our club besides us. You would also have a few secrets Marbles???? How is the Henly C grade recruiting going???

[Lightning McQueen]

ha-har my zap to the system has caused ripples so far out to wake up hibernation-Yankman

any observer will note that 50% of posters on this forum are either from Ingle Farm or Houghton lol im just sick of the high horse crap being posted like they have already got it all won, when in reality both sides are walking in on little ponies that have done sweet F-All these past 2 years

off-field passion from club directors who played the game 20 years ago is terrific, but it is the players going out to war each week, and im telling u with my utmost conviction that these soldiers coming down from relegation will STILL be carrying the trauma of being 20 goal whipped each week. A pure coach would know his men would still be a little fragile

yes theyll be contenders but by no way are they TITANS

Q's a man mountain but I'd hardly say he's a plural. Angle Vale for mine.

That sounded like an intro for an ANZAC Day clash.

[Q.]

I eat enough for two people.

[Phantom Gossiper]

So you are saying the bottom div 6 team as it is, is a 6-7 goal better team then the 3rd place div 7 team?

No, what I am saying is that the overall standard of Div 6 is AT LEAST a 6 - 7 goal better standard than Div 7. A further comparison is that Woody South would have smashed Mitchell Park, and by a lot more than 6 - 7 goals. If you want an indicator, have a look on Henley's website over the past few years.

Notice you changed your comment X I was getting on this morning to say I strongly disagree, NO bottom side in ANY division is a 6-7 goal better side than the top sides in the division below them.

I'm glad you changed your comment, because honestly once you start thinking that way, you're entering dangerous territory..

IMO standards of competitions change from year to year, Mitchell Park, TTG and Angle Vale were obviously strong sides last year and it's hard to say how they would've gone in div 6 last year, they may well have been more than capable of holding their own. Playing at a better standard (div 6) may have brought out the best in them and adversely playing in div 7 having a few sides that were off the mark may well have seen them lower their standard to the level around them, but to their credit they were able to rise above and have success.

This is no doubt a dangerous season for Ingle Farm and Houghton, they have high expectations of themselves, pressure to go back up, and need to find away to consistently perform at a higher level and not be brought down by a drop in standard.

[Phantom Gossiper]

any observer will note that 50% of posters on this forum are either from Ingle Farm or Houghton lol im just sick of the high horse crap being posted like they have already got it all won, when in reality both sides are walking in on little ponies that have done sweet F-All these past 2 years

In our defense, most clubs seem to be keeping their cards close to their chest so far this year, and the posters on this thread are happy to push the spotlight onto the likes of Ingle Farm and Houghton. Personally I just like spruiking up the Farmers because it gives me a kick and entertainment during the day when in actual fact I wont have any impact or influence on how the A & B grade sides go this year and am under no illusions they will just stroll through the season with ease.

No one at Ingle Farm - or Houghton I imagine - believes they are going to come down, dominate, win a flag and head back up, but i can assure you that is definately the intention and aim of the club as it should be for every club. If you aren't in it to win it and have aspirations of being successfull then you're wasting your time!

[Bigshow82]

2 new teams coming into div 7 this year (Ingle Farm & Houghton) that together have won a massive 7 games from 36 matches in the last 12 months but yet theyre standout premiership favourites phht what a joke

hardly renowned for winning.

You are amazing marbles, Mitchell Park won 4 games in 2009 and 1 in 2010 in Div6 then 11 in Div 7 in 2011 and won a Div 7 flag in 2012. BIG gap between 6 and 7. You should know that.

How many blokes from the 2010 Div 6 team played in the 2011 Div 7 team? Further more how many of the 2010 team played in the 2012 GF winning side? I would say not alot but could be wrong (happens a bit ) Any relegated team in all divs (exception possibly Woody Sth last season) knows they still have to recruit a good amount of good players to do well the following year in the lower div. If the gap between div 6 and div 7 was that big the need for Ingle Farm and Houghton to recruit heavily wouldnt be there.
I am not pointing this at Ingle Farm or Houghton but instead those that feel the gap between div 6 and div 7 is so big, hence the constant posting about Ingle Farm being favs.

[Bigshow82]

Is it that big a gap? Is it any bigger a gap than the difference between other grades such as 6 to 5? I would have thought it be much the same. The gap between your best player and worst player on any given Saturday is bigger in div 7 then it would be in div 6 as it would be from div 6 to div 5 but is the standard of footy that great a difference that a club coming down from div 6 only has to recruit a couple of good players to add to the bunch of players they had in div 6 (that weren't good enough to avoid relegation) to make them a powerhouse div 7 team?

Have recruited more than a couple of good players Bigshow82 and yes, there is a big gap, my guess from what I have seen in the past couple of seasons, it's 6 - 7 goals.

So you are saying the bottom div 6 team as it is, is a 6-7 goal better team then the 3rd place div 7 team? I'm expecting both the relegated teams to be more than competitive but I just don't buy into the fact just because they have come down from div 6 to div 7 they will be streaks ahead of anyone else

No, what I am saying is that the overall standard of Div 6 is AT LEAST a 6 - 7 goal better standard than Div 7. A further comparison is that Woody South would have smashed Mitchell Park, and by a lot more than 6 - 7 goals. If you want an indicator, have a look on Henley's website over the past few years.

Instead of looking at Henleys website I tried looking at sportingpulse for the div 6 scores from 2012 but for some reason thats the only div not on there. So I ask you the question what was the score line between Ingle Farm V Woody South in last years games? I hope they are larger than the 6-7 goal plus smashing you would have expected them to give Mitchell Park otherwise you are saying that the relegated div 6 team is better then the premiership winning div 7 team

[The_Warrior]

2 new teams coming into div 7 this year (Ingle Farm & Houghton) that together have won a massive 7 games from 36 matches in the last 12 months but yet theyre standout premiership favourites phht what a joke

hardly renowned for winning.

You are amazing marbles, Mitchell Park won 4 games in 2009 and 1 in 2010 in Div6 then 11 in Div 7 in 2011 and won a Div 7 flag in 2012. BIG gap between 6 and 7. You should know that.

How many blokes from the 2010 Div 6 team played in the 2011 Div 7 team? Further more how many of the 2010 team played in the 2012 GF winning side? I would say not alot but could be wrong (happens a bit ) Any relegated team in all divs (exception possibly Woody Sth last season) knows they still have to recruit a good amount of good players to do well the following year in the lower div. If the gap between div 6 and div 7 was that big the need for Ingle Farm and Houghton to recruit heavily wouldnt be there.
I am not pointing this at Ingle Farm or Houghton but instead those that feel the gap between div 6 and div 7 is so big, hence the constant posting about Ingle Farm being favs.

We went up to Div 6 last season with only about 2 or 3 different players and finished 3rd. There is a gap but not as massive as everyone says or thinks it's just harder, you get no 'easy' games like you do in the lower half of Div 7.

[Q.]

It really is a nebulous argument because all teams change every year, some get better and others get worse, but nothing ever stays the same.

[Phantom Gossiper]

If the gap between div 6 and div 7 was that big the need for Ingle Farm and Houghton to recruit heavily wouldnt be there.

The need is to make the side as strong as possible, to give the side the best opportunity and leave no stone unturned. Always looking to recruit and better the club regardless of the division.

[marbles]

div 6 scores might be found in the newsletters??

http://www.saafl.asn.au/news/footy_news/articles/10,5

henley got smashed in div 6 cos obviously any powerhouse key position players are in our Div 1 squad. Plus as C-Graders most just wanna players saturdays but cant be bothered training more than once a fortnight. But a mawson lakes A-Grade for example could rise as its willing to put n the hard hards and also invest in high calibre players/recruits. So a mitchell park will need to do the same (which they wont cos they dont pay players). cant see them lasting too long in div 6, TTG will endure exactly what henley did in div 6, pain.

[Phantom Gossiper]

So I ask you the question what was the score line between Ingle Farm V Woody South in last years games?

1st game, Ingle Farm kicked 11 unanswered goals in the 3rd quarter to lead by 5 goals at 3/4 time but ran out of steam and the class of Woody South led by Rayner - who had been kept quiet before then - and Stubberfield shone through, and Woody South snatched a last gasp win by about a goal.

The return match at the end of the season seen Ingle Farm struggle with a side that missed several of their 1st choice starters and after a long and unsuccesful season were brushed aside with relative ease by the eventual premiers.

Ingle Farm also surrended leads and lost by a couple of kicks or less to Blackfriars and Mawson Lakes early in the season.

Fitness was probably the biggest killer, and that area looks far stronger this year.

In short the farmers best was able to mix it with the top sides, but their worst was deplorable.

[marbles]

here actually

http://www.talkingamateurs.com.au/footy-budget.html

[Q.]

If the gap between div 6 and div 7 was that big the need for Ingle Farm and Houghton to recruit heavily wouldnt be there.

You always look to recruit as many players as possible. We had absolutely no luck with that last year. This year we have had much more success in that regard.

[Q.]

TTG will endure exactly what henley did in div 6, pain.

Or they could show some moderate success like Adelaide Uni who have been quite competitive in the last couple of years.