Metro South Juniors

[Bluedemon]

Glandore doesn't get used on a Sunday does it?

No it doesnt.

So if a new junior club popped up and could sort it out with WOS they could probably play there then.

watch this space

[barbs]

EJFC?

[Patrol]

EJFC?

The new Club can't have any name or colors related to were they came from and can not use jumpers from previous club.
and for the new name it should be BKFC

[laser]

How about "The Buffalos" ?

[Bluedemon]

EJFC?

The new Club can't have any name or colors related to were they came from and can not use jumpers from previous club.
and for the new name it should be BKFC

there is nothing that says a new club cant have the same name. Edwardstown Football Club is leaving to SFL. You can always start up a new club with the name of the Edwardstown Junior Sports Club.

[heater31]

EJFC?

The new Club can't have any name or colors related to were they came from and can not use jumpers from previous club.
and for the new name it should be BKFC

there is nothing that says a new club cant have the same name. Edwardstown Football Club is leaving to SFL. You can always start up a new club with the name of the Edwardstown Junior Sports Club.

I think you're right with EJSC. Could easily be the Glandore Juniors Football Club too. Are the Adelaide Cricket Club the Buffaloes?

Yes mate they are. Had a footy team for 1 season playing out of Glandore but folded due to a lack of numbers.

[1919]

Is it just me or does anyone else think edwardstown know they made a mistake going to sfl but too proud to admit it?

scottroo i am with you. The club didnt like the relegation/promotion system of the SAAFL and went to an easier option. They get most of their juniors from the private schools who arent allowed to play on Saturdays but those players like to play on a Sunday. the games i always enjoyed coaching was against edwardstown.

Seriously, are you making it up as you go? Don't let facts get in the way of your view of the world!

EFC moving to SFL had nothing to do with the relegation / promotion system in SAAFL. Who ever told you that. The simple fact is the EFC people running football and finances in the few years prior to the club leaving SAAFL were writing cheques they couldn't cash in an effort to remain in Div 1 & 2. Coupled with the very high (in comparison to SFL) SAAFL affiliation fees and over the top fines system, that expenditure was unsustainable given the club, during it's years in SAAFL had exhausted the reserves and assets previous boards had accumulated.

The private school kids can still play Sunday Football in SFL, pretty much the same way six EFC teams competed in MSJFL during 2012.

[bandar]

Interesting, a high ranking official at the time possibly the president told me not only was it to do with the costs, they didn't like the promotion relegation system. His thoughts were that it affected the chances of building proper rivalries. So at the time it was certainly used as a reason.

[1919]

Interesting, a high ranking official at the time possibly the president told me not only was it to do with the costs, they didn't like the promotion relegation system. His thoughts were that it affected the chances of building proper rivalries. So at the time it was certainly used as a reason.

fair enough and apologies to Bluedemon if that is the case. Must be that those who held that view are no longer around the club as it's the first I've ever heard of it. Personally would think that focus should be on continued success of the club then rivalries will take care of themselves! Recall fondly the SAFA days with great rivalries against Flinders Park, Pooraka and Athelstone.

[Esteban Vihaio]

EFC football director has posted detailed response in SFL - Edwardstown Football Club thread.

[1919]

Hopefully the following clarifies the EFC juniors matter for all of the the uniformed or misinformed or ignoarant or just plain trolls deliberately trying to distort to the football community. You can take it that all of the following are ABSOLUTE facts.

The Board of EFC informed the junior committee more than two weeks ago that EFC will be complying with SFL direction to transition the Sunday Junior teams into SFL in 2013. The 'junior committee', obviously of the opinion that they are an entity unto them selves, responded in the following manner:

- Emailed EFC president to advice that regretably the junior presentation day was being moved from Edwardstown club rooms. The statement was simply that, no reason or alternate date or venue was advised.

- Emailed junior families advising that due to unforseen circumstances they have had to change the venue to Glandore Oval. A blatant misrepresentation of facts. There were no unforseen circumstances, EFC board encourage all junior functions to be held at the club, in fact we cancelled the booking of someone else when the junior committee originally advised the intended date of their presentation day. The simple fact is the junior committee found out the board knew of their plan for a new football club and they didn't want senior members and board members present to spread the TRUTH to junior families of what they were planning. The board representative present was promised that he would be allowed to address the function and distribute the letter below to all families. The junior committee subsequently reneged on that promise.

- Emailed EFC junior families advising them that EFC will be fielding U8,9,10,11,12,13 and 14 teams in MSJFL next season. A statement they know to be a blatant lie given they HAD been advised by the board the week before sending those emails as well as having been advised at the end of season 2011 that 2012 would be EFC inc last in MSJFL.

- Without authorisation, their 'president' instructed MSJFL to change the EFC password to the MSJFL portal in Sporting Pulse, in effect blocking the club from accessing player and family address details so that the club is unable to send correct information to those people. Of note here is that MSJFL President, David Evans is refusing to reinstate access for EFC board despite advice from EFC lawyers and Sporting Pulse themselves that the clubs are the owners of the data. Evans cites Commonwealth Privacy act as his defense of that refusal. SANFL and SACFL were requested to assist and advised they are unable to make a decision and EFC board should take it to SACFL Investigations Committee.

The following is the letter the EFC want to get to EVERY junior player and their families but are unable to so due to the actions of the breakaway junior committee and MSJFL.

To all members, life members and juniors parents 12th September 2012

The Edwardstown Football Club (EFC) in season 2013 is remaining in the Southern Football League (SFL) and as a consequence of this, all EFC junior teams will be required to play in that same league.
The clubs association with the Metro South junior Football league (MSJFL) competition is a long and proud one, being an inaugural member and going on to be one of the most successful involved, winning many premierships and seeing many young men after starting in under 8’s and go through to play senior football at EFC or progress through to the SANFL and AFL football.
The club is extremely proud of these achievements and has enjoyed a great relationship with the MSJFL during this period.
It is however a requirement, one that has been argued rather vigorously for and against these past three years, that the SFL require all clubs affiliated with their league play all their teams within it.
We now have three letters fron SFL outlining our obligations and the penalties that will be enforced on EFC if we do not comply.
The reasons EFC joined SFL in the first instance was its affordability both with Affiliation fees, insurance and lack of indiscriminate fines which the club found put far too much pressure on its finances. In fact the year the club actually joined SFL it was in substantial in debt.
Since joining SFL, due to the reduced costs and ability to obtain grants ,the club has been able to restore the scoreboard, install under stairs storage, renovate club lounge, new carpets, ceilings etc, re-framed all photos, re-tiled main change room showers, installed two ice baths, build a new canteen, turn old canteen into a gym plus many other small improvements.
Currently EFC field A, B and C grades, under 18’s and 16’s in SFL and under 13’s and below age groups in the MSJFL i.e. five sides in SFL and six outside.
Failure of EFC to field all sides in SFL from 2013 onwards will put the club in breach of SFL requirements and apart from fines and penalties it will most likely face dismissal from the SFL.
That leaves us to re-join the SAAFL at most likely div 4 or 5 at best. This has been strongly opposed by the current playing group and the likelihood of no senior teams in 2013 would spell the end of the club regardless.
There are other factors the board has to consider including legal and compliance requirements associated with incorporated bodies and community clubs that we MUST adopt to ensure ongoing access to government grants. The requirements are extensive and include having to operate as a single entity under one board, maintaining a full auditable set of annual financials , have in place appropriate child safe, OH&S and alcohol service policies, police clearance checks, regularly maintaining our constitution etc. We are well on our way in complying with these requirements by applying to become a Star Cub member and a Smart Safe club. Additionally the redevelopment of the Oval complex is well into the planning stages by the Marion council and I have been representing our clubs interests by joining a special sub-committee to ensure EFC,s retains a strong position going forward. When it gets down to what share EFC can get from the redevelopment the number of fully paid up members will factor heavily against other users ability to outvote EFC.
The board have considered all available options, including staying as is and mounting a legal challenge against SFL, re-joining Amateur League (SAAFL) so that Sunday juniors can remain in MSJFL or bite the bullet and move all EFC teams into the one league i.e. SFL.
After many discussions with a group of very concerned junior parents led by their president Ben Kitto and also with SFL board members, the board of the EFC inc have finally voted to stay in the SFL and comply with their demands.

The board understand there will be some upset with this decision because of perceived further travel and relationships built up with other teams over the years but we also believe the benefits will be increased for the club by having all teams playing in one comp and allowing the promotion of players to higher grades based on their ability. At the end of the day it is about giving your child a game of footy in a safe and well managed environment. We believe both competitions offer this.
It is important to note that the SFL are firm on their stance of a player being able to play in one league only, not as we currently do by obtaining permits to promote lads into under 16’s for example.
It is also important that we allow this natural promotion process to happen as the club fields more teams, eg under 14’s and under 16’s on Sundays.
In season 2013 EFC is extremely hopeful of fielding as many as possible of the following teams:
Saturday: - A’s, B’s, under 18’s, under 16’s and Under 14’s.
Sundays :- Under 16,’s, Under 14’s, Under 12’s, Under 10’s, Under 8’s and C grade.
Where the club has excess numbers in any one age group it will field two teams in eg under 10’s red and under 10’s yellow for an example.
Many SFL clubs do this already and tell me it works just fine.
Currently the Sunday north teams that EFC will likely compete against in under 8’s for example are Brighton yellow, Brighton black, Happy Valley yellow, Flagstaff Hill blue, Hallett Cove, Morphetville Park, Marion, Morphett Vale red, Reynella black, Port Noarlunga and Port Noarlunga divers and Lonsdale.
Similarly in under 14’s on a Sunday we would play against, F/Hill, Brighton, H/Valley, Reynella, H/Cove, Morphie Parks, Noarlunga.
It is a sign of the strength of the SFL junior Sunday North comp that there are 12 under 8 teams, 10 under 10’s, 12 under 12’s and 7 under 14’s and 16’s.
There are an additional ten teams in each age group of under 8’s 10’s and 12’s playing in the southern zone.
That is a total of 78 teams on a Sunday, representing a very good competition.
When you consider it is a 14 game season, 7 games at home, 3 away games against against Marion, Brighton and M/.Parks it only leaves 4 away games where extra travel is required and H/Valley, F/Hill and H/Cove are only 10 or 15 minutes approx from the club.
It is also important to note that the SFL is getting great support and commendations from all other leagues including MSJFL for initiating their zero tolerance stance on umpire abuse from players, officials and parents.
The future and playing strength of any football club is the retention of their junior footballers into senior grades and the parents ongoing involvement in running the club along the way.
We trust that you all understand why the decision has been made (the current board inherited this little issue I might add), and get behind the club and your children and help keep the substantial reputation Edwardstown has of producing great footballers for over ninety years (100 year centenary in 2019) in a great family environment.
In closing I would like to personally thank Ben Kitto for the tireless and professional way he has run the Sunday juniors in 2012. We all understand Ben will be most upset with this move but as you have been able to read, we had very little choice.
Yours Sincerely
on behalf Board of Directors

[as you wood]

Thanks 1919 for showing whats is really going on at EFC, this has really high lighted the negitivity of the Junior Committee, an it looks to be positive in the proactive way in what you and your club are heading.
I can see how your club is feeling, with these people trying to undermind the way in which your club wants to go.
I do like the system of the Juniors which is run by SFL, it also give these kids time to develope as a group and go up grades together and parents seeing the benifits and the freindships they will gain.
Keep the good work up