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Community football board

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:15 pm
by supercoach
Believe there was a meeting of 7 local footy leagues from around the state during the week discussing the probability that they will be withdrawing from affiliation of the community football board set up by Leigh Wicker and his mates at the SANFL. Part of the problem is the $120k a year his side kick Mr G Rosser gets and then the other 2 wages of around $70k and $60k for his side acts. $250k for nothing taken out of community clubs. I know 3 of the leagues (bigger ones) have already decided to go without reservation. Hopefully they stick to their guns and start the break down of the boys club that is crushing a great game in this state.

Re: Community football board

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:05 pm
by Goldberg
=D> =D> =D>

Re: Community football board

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:38 pm
by aceman
supercoach wrote:Believe there was a meeting of 7 local footy leagues from around the state during the week discussing the probability that they will be withdrawing from affiliation of the community football board set up by Leigh Wicker and his mates at the SANFL. Part of the problem is the $120k a year his side kick Mr G Rosser gets and then the other 2 wages of around $70k and $60k for his side acts. $250k for nothing taken out of community clubs. I know 3 of the leagues (bigger ones) have already decided to go without reservation. Hopefully they stick to their guns and start the break down of the boys club that is crushing a great game in this state.



Not sure you're correct with much of that.
This body has always been there and called the SANFL Affiliated Leagues Commision and all is funded by the SANFL. The new format is to give the Board some more "teeth" in gaining support of all types for Community footy, not robbing it.
You might want to check your information.

Re: Community football board

PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:28 am
by has been
Think you will find the super coach is spot on as he was there at the meeting. Ask each league how much they pay based on the number of clubs. Yes it has always been there but in a different format without the so called clout. Very much a boys club and about to be given a kick. Once 2 or 3 decide to leave many others will follow. That my friend is the cold hard fact.

Re: Community football board

PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:58 am
by 85 WAS A GOOD YEAR
You are correct - the CFB has a bit more structure and clout than the old Affiliated Leagues body, as it oversees all SA clubs not just those affiliated with SANFL.
As well as paying the normal affiliated leagues payments, leagues & clubs now also have to pay an addtional fee to assist in the running of CFB called the Programs Development Levy.
Affiliation fees are paid during the season, the levy was invoiced near the end of the season.

CFB is meant to "centralise" everything for leagues and ensure clubs have access to sponsorship arrangements, grants information etc. May be good elsewhere but at Flagstaff Hill we already have these well under control, and the SFL already have the merchandise arrangements in place.

We keep getting surveys so CFB can identify where they can offer assistance, but so far all they have done was identify these things are in place. One survery asked how often we buy pie warmers ??

Best thing they have done so far is the establishment of SFL onto Sporting Pulse/Footyweb and the email newsletters with all the results and photos from the carnivals that we dont usually see.
Currently they are working with SFL to change Clearance rules and the points system for 2010.

Re: Community football board

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:30 am
by shoe boy
supercoach wrote:Believe there was a meeting of 7 local footy leagues from around the state during the week discussing the probability that they will be withdrawing from affiliation of the community football board set up by Leigh Wicker and his mates at the SANFL. Part of the problem is the $120k a year his side kick Mr G Rosser gets and then the other 2 wages of around $70k and $60k for his side acts. $250k for nothing taken out of community clubs. I know 3 of the leagues (bigger ones) have already decided to go without reservation. Hopefully they stick to their guns and start the break down of the boys club that is crushing a great game in this state.


Could not say it better SC. :ymapplause:

Re: Community football board

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 4:44 pm
by Pinch Hitter
A consistent approach to regulation across the state , a direct line into the SANFL for all leagues , an effort to provide financial benefits through centralised purchasing , free computers and statewide football database on the web , all sounds positive for grassroots footy and future administrators of the game to me.

a few upset cowboys , who cares !!

Re: Community football board

PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:06 pm
by aceman
Pinch Hitter wrote:A consistent approach to regulation across the state , a direct line into the SANFL for all leagues , an effort to provide financial benefits through centralised purchasing , free computers and statewide football database on the web , all sounds positive for grassroots footy and future administrators of the game to me.

a few upset cowboys , who cares !!




I like the boy!!!!!!!!!!

Let the Leagues that want to go it alone do so, when something turns "pear shape", watch them duck for cover.
The BL&G FL went it all alone until fairly recently, I wonder what made them change their minds and affiliate?

Re: Community football board

PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:19 pm
by shoe boy
aceman wrote:
Pinch Hitter wrote:A consistent approach to regulation across the state , a direct line into the SANFL for all leagues , an effort to provide financial benefits through centralised purchasing , free computers and statewide football database on the web , all sounds positive for grassroots footy and future administrators of the game to me.

a few upset cowboys , who cares !!




I like the boy!!!!!!!!!!

Let the Leagues that want to go it alone do so, when something turns "pear shape", watch them duck for cover.
The BL&G FL went it all alone until fairly recently, I wonder what made them change their minds and affiliate?


And Aceman I thought you knew what you were talking about!!!! OBVIOSLY NOT! [-x

Re: Community football board

PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:48 pm
by aceman
shoe boy wrote:
aceman wrote:
Pinch Hitter wrote:A consistent approach to regulation across the state , a direct line into the SANFL for all leagues , an effort to provide financial benefits through centralised purchasing , free computers and statewide football database on the web , all sounds positive for grassroots footy and future administrators of the game to me.

a few upset cowboys , who cares !!




I like the boy!!!!!!!!!!

Let the Leagues that want to go it alone do so, when something turns "pear shape", watch them duck for cover.
The BL&G FL went it all alone until fairly recently, I wonder what made them change their minds and affiliate?


And Aceman I thought you knew what you were talking about!!!! OBVIOSLY NOT! [-x



Well fill me in, positives versus negatives on the deal.
Three big leagues going it alone so a poster says, my guess is SFL, HFL & GSFL if you go by club numbers,The RFL are okay with it so tell me more.
I reckon I could fill you in on who was the first league to complain about it, for whatever reason.

Re: Community football board

PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:43 pm
by Lunchbox Legend
supercoach wrote:Believe there was a meeting of 7 local footy leagues from around the state during the week discussing the probability that they will be withdrawing from affiliation of the community football board set up by Leigh Wicker and his mates at the SANFL. Part of the problem is the $120k a year his side kick Mr G Rosser gets and then the other 2 wages of around $70k and $60k for his side acts. $250k for nothing taken out of community clubs. I know 3 of the leagues (bigger ones) have already decided to go without reservation. Hopefully they stick to their guns and start the break down of the boys club that is crushing a great game in this state.


Well said supercoach. :ymapplause: =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

Re: Community football board

PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:45 pm
by aceman
shoe boy wrote:
aceman wrote:
Pinch Hitter wrote:A consistent approach to regulation across the state , a direct line into the SANFL for all leagues , an effort to provide financial benefits through centralised purchasing , free computers and statewide football database on the web , all sounds positive for grassroots footy and future administrators of the game to me.

a few upset cowboys , who cares !!




I like the boy!!!!!!!!!!

Let the Leagues that want to go it alone do so, when something turns "pear shape", watch them duck for cover.
The BL&G FL went it all alone until fairly recently, I wonder what made them change their minds and affiliate?


And Aceman I thought you knew what you were talking about!!!! OBVIOSLY NOT! [-x



There are 276 clubs in SA footy, take out the 67 in the SAAFL as that's a different situation, how does the CFB impact on clubs? What does this cost per club in additional affiliation fees?
Can anyone tell me please?

Re: Community football board

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:30 pm
by Look Good In Leather
The rumours are all circling around at the moment, seems it goes even deeper...

The SA Football Commission has apparently told the Hills FL that Blanchetown Swan Reach and Sedan-Cambrai WILL be playing in the Country Division next season, Hills have taken offence to being dictated to and are likely dis-affiliate accordingly.

SFL have also made it very clear that it will not be grouped together with the Ammos and the miriad of suburban junior comps and refused to pay the $20 a head levy.

Main loss for clubs not being affiliated with the SANFL is that they will not receive royalties for any players that go on to play AFL football.

Re: Community football board

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:37 pm
by shoe boy
Look Good In Leather wrote:The rumours are all circling around at the moment, seems it goes even deeper...

The SA Football Commission has apparently told the Hills FL that Blanchetown Swan Reach and Sedan-Cambrai WILL be playing in the Country Division next season, Hills have taken offence to being dictated to and are likely dis-affiliate accordingly.

SFL have also made it very clear that it will not be grouped together with the Ammos and the miriad of suburban junior comps and refused to pay the $20 a head levy.

Main loss for clubs not being affiliated with the SANFL is that they will not receive royalties for any players that go on to play AFL football.


Talking with a senior Kangarilla excecutive if this is the case they are out of the comp and will apply to the SFL or GSFL!

Re: Community football board

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:24 pm
by The Gimp
Look Good In Leather wrote:Main loss for clubs not being affiliated with the SANFL is that they will not receive royalties for any players that go on to play AFL football.

By the time the SANFL, league and everyone else takes their "share", there's not much left for the clubs anyway!!

Re: Community football board

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:22 pm
by has been
Think you will find the SANFL has no control on the local club getting re-imbursed / compenstated for a player that makes it to AFL. They will get those payments despite not being part of the CFB. Know that for a fact and they sought legal advice on that. Not the HFL causing the hassle, but they are one of the 7. Skiing season on the murray has a lot of talk as well. Cracks are appearing in Mr Wickers egg.

Re: Community football board

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:54 am
by Look Good In Leather
From the CFB Minutes 14/9/09:

"G Rosser advised that the SACFL logo had been filed for examination and once accepted can then be registered in about 3-4 months time. It was confirmed that all senior playing apparel (guernseys, shorts and socks) will be required to include this logo by the commencement of the 2012 season."


"Mid Murray Football League
Copies of letters have been received from Blanchetown/Swan Reach and Sedan Cambrai requesting to transfer to Hills League – country division.

Robertstown are having ongoing talks with Eudunda regarding merger prospects for 2010 and a meeting was recently held with Morgan/Cadell and they confirmed that their preference was to continue in Mid Murray Football League.

A League meeting is scheduled for late September and we will be represented to discuss all options with the Clubs and League and refer back."



"Compulsory Bye for SA Country Championships
After discussion, it was agreed that a State Country Bye be programmed the weekend of the SA Country Championships (3rd & 4th July 2010).

Leagues can apply for an exemption to the CFB on the proviso Clubs/Leagues support player participation in the SA Country Championships. "

Re: Community football board

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:21 pm
by supercoach
Believe that you will find the HFL clubs do not want the mid murray teams even in a div 3 scenario and the fact the CFB are dictating as is the Whicker way they have no alternative but to look at disafilliating with the others

Re: Community football board

PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:53 pm
by aceman
has been wrote:Think you will find the super coach is spot on as he was there at the meeting. Ask each league how much they pay based on the number of clubs. Yes it has always been there but in a different format without the so called clout. Very much a boys club and about to be given a kick. Once 2 or 3 decide to leave many others will follow. That my friend is the cold hard fact.



With what I am hearing, I believe you guys are on the money, apologies for any doubts I had .
There is a smell about this that's not all that good and I will reveal what I know in due course.



They say "a fish rots at the head first", I reckon they might be correct;

When a person sits across a table and tells you one thing, then the results come out and the goalposts have shifted, what else might they change in midstream I wonder?

Re: Community football board

PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:53 pm
by aceman
supercoach wrote:Believe there was a meeting of 7 local footy leagues from around the state during the week discussing the probability that they will be withdrawing from affiliation of the community football board set up by Leigh Wicker and his mates at the SANFL. Part of the problem is the $120k a year his side kick Mr G Rosser gets and then the other 2 wages of around $70k and $60k for his side acts. $250k for nothing taken out of community clubs. I know 3 of the leagues (bigger ones) have already decided to go without reservation. Hopefully they stick to their guns and start the break down of the boys club that is crushing a great game in this state.




Is this any further advanced??? The guy I spoke to about it has got "cold feet" on the likely outcome it appears!