River Murray Football League talk

[daysofourlives]

Harvey one medal and 3 times runner up i think for memory

[grasshopper22]

Would be interested to know what posters have thought of the form of Pech, Harvey and Thomas at Mannum this year.
All where resonable players in the BLG but not worth the money they hace been alleged to have recieved at Mannum.

Seem to rely to much on these guys,Think Pechie,Harvey and Ribbons have already signed for next year if that answers your question. Browny was spewing when he heard Ribbons signed since they work together. Not sure on Thomas but didn't make himself available for the inter league game but looks rock solid in defense.

well i have been away for a while and as you all would have missed me i feel as though i should set you straight on the Pech harvey thomas question. I have watched Mannum play 3 times only this year, but i can say the following with conviction , 1) harvey gets the ball a lot but his disposal skills are terrible and lets them down going forward time and time again, he is also very slow and will only be exposed more in finals sorry final. 2) Pech,, outside player very few contested ball posetions but can run all day must be respected and the one to keep next year. 3) thomas ,, very unfit stands in the one spot most of the time providing no rebound at all , for a big bloke very soft at the footy and fantastic kick when he does get it without pressure. In summery if the $500 per game each thats been talked about then Mannum are definately getting a bad deal non of them are worth that amount not even Pech and if Mannum are to be competetive next year they have some tough decisions to make.The amount of money could only be a rumour but did come from reliable source.

$500 pfft they wouldnt get out of bed for that, try doubling it and adding half again.
You clearly have no idea used to be, $500 doesnt get you much these days

I thought it would be around the $1000 mark but wasn't overly sure,

[jstlookin]

I heard from someone at angaston just before the season got underway that they offered harvey $800 a game to try and keep him and still couldn't mantain his servises. So how much more than $800 is the question. Definately not worth that at his age one wouldn't have thought. But as we all no mannum have a pretty good record of over paying recruits that they think are going to dominate the rmfl and do not deliver.

Used to be. You say you got it from a reliable source but if the person has something to do with the mannum footy club then we all no do you really think that he is going to give you an accurate price. If he says $500 then you could probably nearly double that and maybe throw a little more on top of it. We all no that people that have anything to do with football clubs will never usually let the correct price get out. Because when talk like this happens it saves the embarrasment.

[used to be]

I heard from someone at angaston just before the season got underway that they offered harvey $800 a game to try and keep him and still couldn't mantain his servises. So how much more than $800 is the question. Definately not worth that at his age one wouldn't have thought. But as we all no mannum have a pretty good record of over paying recruits that they think are going to dominate the rmfl and do not deliver.

Used to be. You say you got it from a reliable source but if the person has something to do with the mannum footy club then we all no do you really think that he is going to give you an accurate price. If he says $500 then you could probably nearly double that and maybe throw a little more on top of it. We all no that people that have anything to do with football clubs will never usually let the correct price get out. Because when talk like this happens it saves the embarrasment.

I dont really care what they are getting but if its over $500 in todays market, player vrs money, i feel bad for Mannum , if what you say is true they are simply not performing at a $1000 player standard and thats bad news for Mannum.

[been there done that]

Interesting topic on here about what players are being paid. What are peoples thoughts about what return should a club be getting for the outlay of dollars? if people are being paid $1000.00 what does that come with? What outcomes does that person need to meet? if you look at it training is 2 nights a week say 1 and a half to 2 hours on a Tuesday and say 1 and a half on a Thursday. Theres 3.5 hours plus game day would be 2.5 hours. Total 6 hrs practice and game time all up. this tells me that someone being paid $166.66 per hour needs to be the absolute best at his trade. comments

[MR FOOTYHEAD]

Jervois v Mypolonga
Ramblers v Tailem
Meningie v Mannum
Easy week tipping mypolonga, ramblers and meningie

[On The Chest]

Interesting topic on here about what players are being paid. What are peoples thoughts about what return should a club be getting for the outlay of dollars? if people are being paid $1000.00 what does that come with? What outcomes does that person need to meet? if you look at it training is 2 nights a week say 1 and a half to 2 hours on a Tuesday and say 1 and a half on a Thursday. Theres 3.5 hours plus game day would be 2.5 hours. Total 6 hrs practice and game time all up. this tells me that someone being paid $166.66 per hour needs to be the absolute best at his trade. comments

And then work that out at 120 minutes for the game and how many possessions they get. Can turn out to be very expensive possessions if they don't get too many. Hope their possessions hit the target.

[Bazza J]

Interesting topic on here about what players are being paid. What are peoples thoughts about what return should a club be getting for the outlay of dollars? if people are being paid $1000.00 what does that come with? What outcomes does that person need to meet? if you look at it training is 2 nights a week say 1 and a half to 2 hours on a Tuesday and say 1 and a half on a Thursday. Theres 3.5 hours plus game day would be 2.5 hours. Total 6 hrs practice and game time all up. this tells me that someone being paid $166.66 per hour needs to be the absolute best at his trade. comments

And then work that out at 120 minutes for the game and how many possessions they get. Can turn out to be very expensive possessions if they don't get too many. Hope their possessions hit the target.

You can bring as many numbers and data into as you like to ill effect. Its like selling property, agents crunch all the numbers but at the end of the day the market will decide its value and at present these clubs obviously have no issues in paying these amounts.

[RyderCourtney]

Interesting topic on here about what players are being paid. What are peoples thoughts about what return should a club be getting for the outlay of dollars? if people are being paid $1000.00 what does that come with? What outcomes does that person need to meet? if you look at it training is 2 nights a week say 1 and a half to 2 hours on a Tuesday and say 1 and a half on a Thursday. Theres 3.5 hours plus game day would be 2.5 hours. Total 6 hrs practice and game time all up. this tells me that someone being paid $166.66 per hour needs to be the absolute best at his trade. comments

And then work that out at 120 minutes for the game and how many possessions they get. Can turn out to be very expensive possessions if they don't get too many. Hope their possessions hit the target.

You can bring as many numbers and data into as you like to ill effect. Its like selling property, agents crunch all the numbers but at the end of the day the market will decide its value and at present these clubs obviously have no issues in paying these amounts.

Absolutely spot on Bazza

[GWW]

In the Standard preview for this weeks' games, Dalwood alluded to the possibility of Tim Richards being lured back to coach Jervois next year. I wonder if they wished they'd appointed Tim at the time that they appointed Ladhams.

Interestingly, noticed that Tim actually played B Grade for Kingston the other week, and was in the best. He would have to be around 48 now.

[been there done that]

Interesting topic on here about what players are being paid. What are peoples thoughts about what return should a club be getting for the outlay of dollars? if people are being paid $1000.00 what does that come with? What outcomes does that person need to meet? if you look at it training is 2 nights a week say 1 and a half to 2 hours on a Tuesday and say 1 and a half on a Thursday. Theres 3.5 hours plus game day would be 2.5 hours. Total 6 hrs practice and game time all up. this tells me that someone being paid $166.66 per hour needs to be the absolute best at his trade. comments

And then work that out at 120 minutes for the game and how many possessions they get. Can turn out to be very expensive possessions if they don't get too many. Hope their possessions hit the target.

You can bring as many numbers and data into as you like to ill effect. Its like selling property, agents crunch all the numbers but at the end of the day the market will decide its value and at present these clubs obviously have no issues in paying these amounts.

who or what decides the market? I have no issues if clubs pay out the money for recruites. Would like to know what an $800.00 dollar player in todays market is worked out on.

[Chester]

Interesting topic on here about what players are being paid. What are peoples thoughts about what return should a club be getting for the outlay of dollars? if people are being paid $1000.00 what does that come with? What outcomes does that person need to meet? if you look at it training is 2 nights a week say 1 and a half to 2 hours on a Tuesday and say 1 and a half on a Thursday. Theres 3.5 hours plus game day would be 2.5 hours. Total 6 hrs practice and game time all up. this tells me that someone being paid $166.66 per hour needs to be the absolute best at his trade. comments

And then work that out at 120 minutes for the game and how many possessions they get. Can turn out to be very expensive possessions if they don't get too many. Hope their possessions hit the target.

You can bring as many numbers and data into as you like to ill effect. Its like selling property, agents crunch all the numbers but at the end of the day the market will decide its value and at present these clubs obviously have no issues in paying these amounts.

who or what decides the market? I have no issues if clubs pay out the money for recruites. Would like to know what an $800.00 dollar player in todays market is worked out on.

Footballers arent livestock BTDT, there is no Market.

[Bazza J]

And then work that out at 120 minutes for the game and how many possessions they get. Can turn out to be very expensive possessions if they don't get too many. Hope their possessions hit the target.[/quote]

You can bring as many numbers and data into as you like to ill effect. Its like selling property, agents crunch all the numbers but at the end of the day the market will decide its value and at present these clubs obviously have no issues in paying these amounts.[/quote]

who or what decides the market? I have no issues if clubs pay out the money for recruites. Would like to know what an $800.00 dollar player in todays market is worked out on.[/quote]

Footballers arent livestock BTDT, there is no Market.[/quote]

You'd have to ask those that make the payments. There must be some benefit, otherwise it wouldn't happen at so many clubs.

So Chester, you're saying that where there is a particular demand for a commodity or service, which footballers provide, there is no such thing as a market?

[words of wisdom]

In the Standard preview for this weeks' games, Dalwood alluded to the possibility of Tim Richards being lured back to coach Jervois next year. I wonder if they wished they'd appointed Tim at the time that they appointed Ladhams.

Interestingly, noticed that Tim actually played B Grade for Kingston the other week, and was in the best. He would have to be around 48 now.

I think the B grade coach received a fair bit of coorong mullet for putting him in the best!
Anything is possible i guess. Maybe Mahony might return as his assistant?

[biffboy]

There is a suggestion on the Hills country forum that Sedan-cambrai may
Enter the RMFL in the next year or two. Anyone heard of this and thoughts?

[MR FOOTYHEAD]

I have previously been involved in recruiting, as silly as it sounds it is a hard and an unheralded job. Pretty narrow minded to think there is only 3 hours training a week and couple hours on a Saturday arvo.
I used to ensure the recruits understood the requirements from pre season and there was no misunderstanding during the season on the cold wet nights.
12x weeks of preseason at least once a week.
18x weeks a year of training 1 night and week.
16x games per year.
Include travel time from Adelaide to Mypolonga @ 2.5 hours return trip.
Travel and labor=155 hours p.a
Fuel: 1200 preseason + 7200 season = 8400 Kms
Not that we used pay $1k per game, but it used to work out to $103 per hour. Deduct 8400 Kim's of travel expenses.
If this was a newspaper run it would hold its own, but not as good as it really seems. Still good past time or hobby!

[MR FOOTYHEAD]

There is a suggestion on the Hills country forum that Sedan-cambrai may
Enter the RMFL in the next year or two. Anyone heard of this and thoughts?

Doubt that would ever happen. The RMFL is no jam and scones league and is quickly becoming a powerhouse competition. Sedan will end up in rivers and indies.

[On The Chest]

I have previously been involved in recruiting, as silly as it sounds it is a hard and an unheralded job. Pretty narrow minded to think there is only 3 hours training a week and couple hours on a Saturday arvo.
I used to ensure the recruits understood the requirements from pre season and there was no misunderstanding during the season on the cold wet nights.
12x weeks of preseason at least once a week.
18x weeks a year of training 1 night and week.
16x games per year.
Include travel time from Adelaide to Mypolonga @ 2.5 hours return trip.
Travel and labor=155 hours p.a
Fuel: 1200 preseason + 7200 season = 8400 Kms
Not that we used pay $1k per game, but it used to work out to $103 per hour. Deduct 8400 Kim's of travel expenses.
If this was a newspaper run it would hold its own, but not as good as it really seems. Still good past time or hobby!

I see exactly where you are coming from with these figures. Can I ask though, if one of the paid players, (doesn't matter how much) didn't turn up for training for no particualr reason, what would the club do. Would he be dropped to the B's. Would he not receive his weekly payment. Some clubs have different penalties. Just interested on how you handled that.

[bigbadkenny]

Tailem bend coach told to finish up today,coached his last game.put my money on Bowen to coach

[Bazza J]

A ruckman wanting to coach is always a scary thought. They're just not any good, eg see Matthew Primus. Speaking of coaches. Have heard Motlop got sent off TWICE yesterday? Automatic suspension? how many weeks?