River Murray Football League talk

[The Dutchman]

I prefer to rely on facts and information which i have personally gathered in the last 48-72 hours than taking any notice of rumours and innuendo.

FACT: Any players i had doubts about for next year were quashed by the players themselves in the last few days.

Maybe the Mole has been burrowing down the wrong tunnel?

Anyone got anything else to discuss?

[THE MOLE]

Whatever the dutchman writes is a fact
Just ask him
No one can no more than him on any subject, or be told a different point of view.
All hail the great one.

[The Dutchman]

Oh poor Mole...dont be a sook.
Just telling you how it is about a subject i happen to know a bit about.
Lets have a nice relaxing summer and see who lines up for the Bluds next year hey?

[floataboy]

Lets just say i have been involved in discussions about paid players with the people that make the decisions at the club.

Not trying to be high and mighty at all. Just telling you the facts. After personally speaking to 80% of the "imports" since the GF win i can confirm that your claim about any of them looking to play elsewhere is not true. And yes, some of them have discussed the inevitable possibility of taking a pay cut...no dreams there!

I guess the chat about Jervois buying premierships will always be there, but i think the long list of locals might have surprised a few.

I know quite a few are still unsure about where they are playing next year.
Which is a fact, and doesnt mean that they have told the high and mighty dutchman.
Just because you dont know, doesnt mean it isnt true. Or is that a concept that you refuse to believe.
I still think most will stay, but saying that they are not looking anywhere else is crap.

what about if timmy leaves dutchy, will they all hang around then or not? he seems to have gotten them all there in the first place so will they follow him should he leave?

[Hills]

The Mole everything you have said on this forum is hear say and you know it!

And i doubt your getting correct information 100% of the time. At least the Dutchman can speak with FACTS as he is at alot of the games. And speaks to players one on one and not something he has heard along the grapevine.

Points system.

Is this coming into the RMFL.

[The Dutchman]

In all likelihood Timmy is leaving as coach, but will still be involved at the club in some way. Will be interesting times without "the greatest" yelling from the box.

The playing group have been very influential in getting people to the club, and Timmy normally seals the deal.

If someone like Mahoney takes over in a coaching role and Timmy stays involved at the club i cant see the change of coach having an effect on players staying or going.

[Bandit]

If someone like Mahoney takes over in a coaching role and Timmy stays involved at the club i cant see the change of coach having an effect on players staying or going.

I would have to agree with that, Timmy is the money man and Sam is the connections - as long as they are at the club most of the players would remain you would think.

[floataboy]

If someone like Mahoney takes over in a coaching role and Timmy stays involved at the club i cant see the change of coach having an effect on players staying or going.

I would have to agree with that, Timmy is the money man and Sam is the connections - as long as they are at the club most of the players would remain you would think.

so if the 'money man' goes... the players will stay??
or do you think richards would stay involved financially with the club regardless of coaching roles. who is his 'local' club, is he a jervois boy?
surely if timmy did leave that would take out a HUGE chunk of the finance for the players, would be hard to spread 1500 amongst them if it was just the club paying.

and the points system is coming. deligates voted it in a month or so ago. will probably not make much of a difference next year but should start to even sides out in say 2 or 3 yrs. is a hell of a lot easier to police than the 'salary crap'!

[The Dutchman]

With Timmy not coaching wouldnt that create extra money in the salary cap for players?

[floataboy]

With Timmy not coaching wouldnt that create extra money in the salary cap for players?

wasnt his coaching money paying a couple of players anyway? heard he was coaching for 'free'

[The Dutchman]

I know he was paying a couple of players with mullet from the coorong, but thats about it. Nice fish too!!!

I wouldnt have thought the coin he was getting for coaching can now be spent on players, especially if Mahoney plays and coaches next year. That way there would be no additional expenditure on a new coach.

[floataboy]

I know he was paying a couple of players with mullet from the coorong, but thats about it. Nice fish too!!!

I wouldnt have thought the coin he was getting for coaching can now be spent on players, especially if Mahoney plays and coaches next year. That way there would be no additional expenditure on a new coach.

i heard he approached the club last year and told them to put his coaching salary into paying players. so therefore if you take that money away, they will have to find it elsewhere (assuming that this is true, but considering he obviously funnels a lot of his own cash into the players, it cant be too far a stretch...
and is mahoney going to coach for free? he could make a lot more money coaching imps next year

[The Dutchman]

I think Mahoney would live at Jervois if he could!
If he plays and coaches he might not need much more than he currently gets as a player anyway, so it wont hurt them too much you wouldnt think.

I'd imagine that RMFL clubs would have to throw some decent coin at good coaches to come to the league. Jervois have the advantage of using Mahoney and not shelling out too much for his services because he loves the place.

[floataboy]

I think Mahoney would live at Jervois if he could!
If he plays and coaches he might not need much more than he currently gets as a player anyway, so it wont hurt them too much you wouldnt think.

I'd imagine that RMFL clubs would have to throw some decent coin at good coaches to come to the league. Jervois have the advantage of using Mahoney and not shelling out too much for his services because he loves the place.

just because you love your job doesnt mean you shouldnt get paid for it though. hell, i dont work for free!!
fly park definitely will have a different feeling to it next year without the voice screaming out of the coaches box anyway!!

[lion heart]

That grandy on saturday would have to go down as an alltime great game after jervois hit the lead with 10 secs to go. Ewer had a pretty quiet day but kicked 2 great long goals in the 4th to get them over the line but it was Trev Rigney who stepped up in the third to give them a chance. He deserved the b.o.g medal he recieved even if i am a little biased.

Bluds southern imports certainly dont play for the love of the club alone thats for sure. Lets just say that a carload of southern boys will cost the club more than a thousand dollars in match payments! Having said that they are treated very well there but i can gaurantee you one thing the guys i know wont be taking pay cuts but will infact be looking for increases!!

Trev Rigney will probably field offers from a dozen clubs as usual but the bluds will always come good and at least match the offer and therefore will probably stay. Jervois has been good to him and he has been good to them.I have no doubt the imports love the club (who wouldnt winning 4 in a row?) but travel does become tiresome especially after a long away game and can become a major factor in players wanting a change.

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[GWW]

Would be interesting to know exactly who were and who weren't paid players at Jervois this year just gone.

Ewer, T Rigney, Mahoney, Jagadonik, Lyon, Woodhouse, Schmidt, J Rigney, Moller, being "outsiders" would presumably have been on payment contracts at the start of the year. The first 3, maybe 4, would presumably be on the higher scale of match payments for a country footy club (between $400 to $550 a game), whilst the others would probably be on an average of $200 a game.

Then theres the locals who presumably would have been getting something, particurly Tyron Hill as a state country rep, Braun has played SANFL seconds so presumably would get something as well.

Perhaps incentive payments for winning games for some of the others.

But as i've said, good luck to them, they obviously run their club well.

[Hills]

I can 100% tell you its not even close to that amount!

400-550 is a massive amount of cash! Jervois do not pay that amount! Maybe if a player had played over 50 league games that amount would be fair!

200???? Thats massive too.

[BJ Ernest]

Hills i know the big trev a couple of years back was getting over 300 a game so dont scoff at the amount he has said.
Whether they are all on that but sammy mahoney wouldnt be up there for anything less than that amount. Ewer wouldnt either so lets not be coy and try dodge the issue. Good on Jervois they pay well and theyve gotten the results.
I know for a fact a full forward a few years ago was offered 6-700 a game to play up there.
Once again tho, they buy these guys in and theyve stayed which in my book is good recruiting, lets hope the cash doesnt run out tho as the travel and lack of money will see most of them move on when it does.

[silicone skyline]

As has been said in the past, players might not be on a contractual 500 a game, but could be on 200 with a couple of Dairy Farmers slipping the odd greenback in the player's back pocket after the game.
Does happen.
I agree with BJ, it's not really an issue how mcuh players are paid.
If any club had the same amount of money, they would do the same thing to bring success.
Success equals membership.
Membership equals a strong club.
that's why you will alwyas see Imps and Jervois of late real finals contenders.

[Hills]

[quote="BJ Ernest"]Hills i know the big trev a couple of years back was getting over 300 a game so dont scoff at the amount he has said.
Whether they are all on that but sammy mahoney wouldnt be up there for anything less than that amount. Ewer wouldnt either so lets not be coy and try dodge the issue. Good on Jervois they pay well and theyve gotten the results.
I know for a fact a full forward a few years ago was offered 6-700 a game to play up there.
Once again tho, they buy these guys in and theyve stayed which in my book is good recruiting, lets hope the cash doesnt run out tho as the travel and lack of money will see most of them move on when it does.[/quote]

Good Call BJ

300 is different to 550 tho.