HFL Division 1 (Central)

[choppy]

stirlo..you make silvy sound like he should be playing AFL maybe hes just past it & not playing for the love of the game just the coin.?

[choppy]

does anyone think if hughes left T.V that the club will fold..or do you think they could actually survive with out him?? just a thought

[GWW]

Probably better off putting that one in the Hills forum because thats where it will finish up anyway.

[Yoda]

choppy a little harsh that saying he has past it when he still has kicked quite a few goals, yes he maybe getting coin but also to say he is not playing for the love of it is crazy. i bet he would say the same thing that he still loves the game just pulls up sore which makes it hard, the money is just a bonus and if your getting paid as much as everyone seems to think he is getting paid why not play. silly not to really

[Amateur Footy]

Anyone who thinks they deserve money to play this level of football is joke. If the money wasn't there most of them would still play (perhaps not in the HFL if they are from town) and we would all have much better facilities and/or the fundraising efforts would be minimised.

On another note......the points system will replace the salary cap next year. A meeting with HFL was held earlier in the week and it is an initiative of the AFL. Personally I think it's a positive because trying to police cash is impossible. Only other alternative is no policing at all. Will be a controversial move atleast initially.

[shake'n'bake]

Completely disagree Ameteur Footy! I am a local footballer playing in the HFL and i for one enjoy that the standard of footy is increased due to these imports! I am all for playing against the best and if thats an ex SANFL or AFL player so be it! Ive said it before and i will say it again the higher the quality of football the more people that you get through the gates to watch the football and the greater the revenue the club is likely to make!

If anything the points system will increase the amount of money clubs will throw around! Because if clubs are limited to a handful of imports then they are going to get the best they possibly can and this means paying the most they can to secure such quality players!

[O'KNOWLEDGABLE ONE]

Shake 'n' Bake, you answered your own argument almost. I think that this is a positive step for the league to take as it will even the competition up and won't pureley rely on rich finances to be competitive each season in an unpoliced market. You say it will increase player payments in the competition, maybe that will be the case, but it also opens up the player pool as you can only play a certain number of points each saturday & if anything it raises the importance of the local players and might find that they are the ones that benefit out of it, also to have the right mix with carefully selective recruiting to ensure best outcome for each clubs squads. Thing is you can get more than 35 points worth of players but at the end of the day on the match day you can only field 35 points worth and you might have paid contract player or two or three playing b grade. I think a great idea and now recruiting the right players is even more important to find the guys that will give you some years of service and not piss off the next year. It stops the journey man footballer from prostituting themselves, well it doesn't but a club would have to be looking hard at their past which by the way has to be declared by player and agreed by club and player & league. Penalties in place for defaulting on the system intentionally. I think bring it in, each year of service a point drops so it rewards loyalty which there is jack all off these days. Anything is better than the system in place now. Earlt days but they need to make it black & white rather than clear like the salary cap is.
Just my opinion but I think there are more positives than negatives and if you are against the system then you are a club that relys too much on cash to have your team successful. I am done now!!!!

[Hafey]

stirlo..you make silvy sound like he should be playing AFL maybe hes just past it & not playing for the love of the game just the coin.?

Choppy have it on good authority that Silvy is on $650 per game , definately too much for a player who is past his best and only in it for the coin .

[rock]

Heard a very solid rumour from someone very high up in the SFL and when i say high up you can't go much higher than the man who runs the show. The rumour is Blackwood will be part of the SFL competition next year along with Edwardstown. Apparently there have been a number of meetings which have been very hush hush and Blackwood are holding their cards close to their chest. The SFL are on a major recruiting drive for interested clubs and are hunting some down.

[The Girth]

This rumor gets thrown around each year they are going to the SLF or the SAAFL will believe it when i see it

[Raider Rep]

Girth i agree has been talked about for years, but i wouldn't mind it if they did cause i hate going out to that oval.

anyone know what happened at the tribunal last night?

[the big fella]

RE PAID PLAYERS...

I think the no of paid players in HFL is out of hand...but..

say we lost sides like Cally,Torrens valley, Gum and perhaps Blackwood..where would we be...the loss of 4 sides from country div would be a real problem...

There must be a balce with lower sides who need paid players to make up numbers/be competitive allowed to get them.

If Hillgove withdrew there cash from cally and Hughesy left TV..these 2 sides would disappear.

[The Girth]

i hope they do go to the SFL then we can come up the hill and bash em for a good laugh

[The Gimp]

Still no news from the tribunal last night?

I see in the Courier that TV are taking Battams' case to the SANFL - can anyone shed anymore light on that?

[Justquietly]

Shake 'n' Bake, you answered your own argument almost. I think that this is a positive step for the league to take as it will even the competition up and won't pureley rely on rich finances to be competitive each season in an unpoliced market. You say it will increase player payments in the competition, maybe that will be the case, but it also opens up the player pool as you can only play a certain number of points each saturday & if anything it raises the importance of the local players and might find that they are the ones that benefit out of it, also to have the right mix with carefully selective recruiting to ensure best outcome for each clubs squads. Thing is you can get more than 35 points worth of players but at the end of the day on the match day you can only field 35 points worth and you might have paid contract player or two or three playing b grade. I think a great idea and now recruiting the right players is even more important to find the guys that will give you some years of service and not piss off the next year. It stops the journey man footballer from prostituting themselves, well it doesn't but a club would have to be looking hard at their past which by the way has to be declared by player and agreed by club and player & league. Penalties in place for defaulting on the system intentionally. I think bring it in, each year of service a point drops so it rewards loyalty which there is jack all off these days. Anything is better than the system in place now. Earlt days but they need to make it black & white rather than clear like the salary cap is.
Just my opinion but I think there are more positives than negatives and if you are against the system then you are a club that relys too much on cash to have your team successful. I am done now!!!!

If you need that much space to justify this points system, there obviously has to be some convincing.
I'm with SNB, this is going to cut out some good recruits coming up the hill, not JUST money grabbers. And why the hell should a coaching panel on a Thursday night have to take points into account for a game? That is sh#t. You think putting them in B grade is the answer?? How is that good? Pick your best team. You say that this is an initiative from the AFL...I like their initiatives ie the hands in the back rule. Yeah, it's ALL coming up roses for footy!

[Tex]

Still no news from the tribunal last night?

I see in the Courier that TV are taking Battams' case to the SANFL - can anyone shed anymore light on that?

I believe they are trying to get the sentence reduced, not thrown out. I dont think they have any chance of that. They have spoken to some of the meadows players also they looked at our dvd but there was nothing at meadows that was going to help him.

[O'KNOWLEDGABLE ONE]

Just quietly I wrote out the explanation in detail for narrow minded peanuts like you so you could hopefully be more enlightened on the points system rather than going on like a helmet without knowing the details & maybe see!! that this could even the competition and stop the rich clubs from being recruiting centres. Again i will enlighten that this system looks after LOCALS and will stop clubs burning local talent for highly paid recruits. You are telling me you would rather an unpoliced salary cap where no club has been challenged to my knowledge for going over - than a system that will be black & white. You are kidding me - you must be part of a club that has deep pockets pal because everyone else can see the positives. Riverland league this year is a prime example - look at what has worked in other comps - it is NOT the salary cap i can assure you.

[Justquietly]

O'Knowledgeable One - you're whinging like someone from a club that is lacking success on and off the field. And believe me, I've been there. So I'm not taking a point of view that is narrow-minded. Narrow-minded is not accepting that footy ebbs and flows. Is your team down NOW, so you think it should be all evened up?
And you're a numbnut for thinking that the consensus is for a points system. From what I've seen, it may well be 50/50.
"Rich clubs"...you ballsack! How do you think a lot of them get the $$?? Providing good spectacles through strong squads, working hard, raffles, quiz nights etc. You make successful clubs sound like they don't deserve it cos they're 'rich'.
I have been at clubs that have volunteers that work their butts off to get $$ for not only great facilities but for some imports that can also lift the standard of the competition.

[The Gimp]

And you're a numbnut for thinking that the consensus is for a points system. From what I've seen, it may well be 50/50.

Going by the HFL meeting on Monday night the majority if definitely FOR the points system - at least 80% believe it will be much better than the "salary cap".

50/50 - you're dreaming!!

[Armytank]

The points sysem really would not change alot if the all the teams kept their current squads I would have thought.

The only way the points system could adversly effect a club is if it is already prepared to break the rules by breaching the salary cap, so no one in the hills should have cause to worry because everyone tells us that they are operating within the rules