Adelaide Plains Football League

[The Big Shrek]

If a player has signed a contract then all clubs within the state must accept that they have signed and it is an automatic refusal.

Cant see what your getting at Shrekky. Perhaps trying to start another argument without knowing all the facts again

If you can't see what I'm getting at, stop rolling your eyes and open them. LP has not got a great record of clearing players.

[Drop Bear]

Willy was on a contract. You can't pick and choose clubs if you're on a contract.
Who has Longies failed to clear Shrekkie?

[Mythical Creature]

Since your so knowledgable on the goings in the Adelaide Plains league name me one player who we havn't cleared that hadn't signed a contract or put a clearance in then changed their minds and asked us to refuse them.

Besides, we are talking about Mallala not clearing players within the league, not players wanting to change leagues.

[The Big Shrek]

You said Mallala should clear players to play with their mates regardless of what the rules say. However you don't agree with clearing Willy when he wanted to leave. Obviously you are saying it's fine to break one rule but not the other.

Players who had clearances refused in 2007:

Matthew Leigh
Willy Serle
Dylan Sellar
Michael Curnow

[The Big Shrek]

While we're at it, United were happy to take Mick Davey in May after the season had started. I wonder if he had signed a contract at Adrossan before he left?

[Drop Bear]

If you sign a contract you sign a contract. Simple.

[Mythical Creature]

Come back to me when you have a list of players who were either not under contract, or asked us to refuse them because they didn't really want to be cleared. We HAVE NOT refused someone cause we CLAIM they are a required player which is my original point.

Curnow WAS cleared because he didn't fit the above criteria.

[Mythical Creature]

While we're at it, United were happy to take Mick Davey in May after the season had started. I wonder if he had signed a contract at Adrossan before he left?

If he had've I doubt he would have been cleared by them . Same as the previous year when we cleared MJ to Ardrossan mid-season.

[maidenmagpie]

Yeah, well done Glenn. Good effort getting picked up. I guess he might take a year or two to develop but could very well become the next Brett Burton (only Glenn kicks straighter).

Maid. You should know that Mallala don't clear players to other clubs . They would rather see someone sit out of footy for 2 years ala Matt East than see a bloke having fun with his mates. Mallala claimed Matt was a required player even though he had not played at all the previous season. It went to tribunal and they told him he would have to sit out another season to miss the required 2 years.

That being the case, unfortunately Moffat you have no chance of going to Hamley. Shame Shame Shame Mallala.

i totally agree,players should be allowed to go where they feel comfortable,and then maybe clubs might get along better and play footy instead at times trying to kill each other,when i went to mallala from united they knew the situation and where supportive of my move,i dont think i have had any trouble with united since,just let a player move and get on with the footy but some just cant let it happen!!!!!!

[The Big Shrek]

Come back to me when you have a list of players who were either not under contract, or asked us to refuse them because they didn't really want to be cleared. We HAVE NOT refused someone cause we CLAIM they are a required player which is my original point.

Curnow WAS cleared because he didn't fit the above criteria.

I'd like to see these contracts and see what they actually say. Curnow was cleared eventually, but he still had his first clearance refused.

I don't believe this they didn't want to be cleared business either. Why else would they put in the application? I bet they can withdraw it themselves anyway.

You don't like Mallala insisting on their rights but do it more yourselves than any other club.

[Mythical Creature]

The contracts are SANFL endorsed, no need for you to see it unless you are the club or player involved. Not something you just hand around for someone to have a nosy at thats for sure.

Once a clearance is lodged with the league the club has 21 days to make a decision or its automatically cleared. To my knowledge they can't be withdrawn by anyone other than the club who submitted it. It has been known that clubs put applications in without the player knowing so it can happen. What else is the club going to do Shrekky, when a player says he has changed his mind and he doesn't want to go, of course they'll refuse it.

Like my original statement we have NEVER used the required player bullshit. All others we have discussed have valid reasons behind them, which don't need to be explained any further.

Personally I have no problems with ANY club holding back a player for different reasons like financial or contractual, but to refuse someone cause you say they are a required player is just crap.

[Marngrook]

Willy was on a contract. You can't pick and choose clubs if you're on a contract.
Who has Longies failed to clear Shrekkie?

How many games did Willy play for season 2008; and what position did he play when playing?

[Mythical Creature]

Yeah, well done Glenn. Good effort getting picked up. I guess he might take a year or two to develop but could very well become the next Brett Burton (only Glenn kicks straighter).

Maid. You should know that Mallala don't clear players to other clubs . They would rather see someone sit out of footy for 2 years ala Matt East than see a bloke having fun with his mates. Mallala claimed Matt was a required player even though he had not played at all the previous season. It went to tribunal and they told him he would have to sit out another season to miss the required 2 years.

That being the case, unfortunately Moffat you have no chance of going to Hamley. Shame Shame Shame Mallala.

i totally agree,players should be allowed to go where they feel comfortable,and then maybe clubs might get along better and play footy instead at times trying to kill each other,when i went to mallala from united they knew the situation and where supportive of my move,i dont think i have had any trouble with united since,just let a player move and get on with the footy but some just cant let it happen!!!!!!

Exactly! Well said.

[uncle_fester]

You said Mallala should clear players to play with their mates regardless of what the rules say. However you don't agree with clearing Willy when he wanted to leave. Obviously you are saying it's fine to break one rule but not the other.

Players who had clearances refused in 2007:

Matthew Leigh
Willy Serle
Dylan Sellar
Michael Curnow

look everyone....shrek knows how to look at a website.....yay for shrek....
...i actually prefer it when your just talking bull sh$t....instead of pretending to know all!!!

you seem to troll around this website putting your uneducated 2c at about everything.
but on more occaisons than not the "locals" of the forum send you packing!!

[uncle_fester]

Congratulations to Balaklava's Glenn Dawson, drafted to Port Adelaide in Saturday's AFL National Draft.

yes, congrats to Glenn, Balak footy club & wwt.
seems to be a good lad, & if he keeps head screwed on should do well in a few years.

[FrancisGilbertHamley]

well things u learn in a shop asile!!moffat has told the club he isnt happy at mallala as he believes he dosnt really get along with all the players away from the club and has more friends and mates at hamley,mallala wont clear him in the league so is looking at town to play,i know where he is coming from,and broady wont be at united at all as he has decided to move on with some of his mates out there and are up as a package to any other club.must go shopping more often!!!

good luck to moff, but u would think he would know more people at mallala than at a new club in adelaide...

Yeah might not know as many people but they would probably treat him better!

Not sure what his issue is FGH, maybe you could fill everyone in?

DB we must meet!

Really who gives a S#@T what his issues are.

The point is he does not want to play with you lot. So why the hell would you not clear him to play with his mates! He has provided pretty good service to the Magpies over the years. He has not done the wrong thing, or broken club or team rules. He has been honest about the whole thing.

If you had more youth on your committee instead of has-been fossils you might be a little more forgiving. You probably cant remember back that far to put yourselves in his shoes.

[The Big Shrek]

You said Mallala should clear players to play with their mates regardless of what the rules say. However you don't agree with clearing Willy when he wanted to leave. Obviously you are saying it's fine to break one rule but not the other.

Players who had clearances refused in 2007:

Matthew Leigh
Willy Serle
Dylan Sellar
Michael Curnow

look everyone....shrek knows how to look at a website.....yay for shrek....
...i actually prefer it when your just talking bull sh$t....instead of pretending to know all!!!

you seem to troll around this website putting your uneducated 2c at about everything.
but on more occaisons than not the "locals" of the forum send you packing!!

And you seem to follow me around dribbling shit without actually contributing anything yourself. Why can't I post one the forum when I have played in the APFL for 14 years?

I haven't been sent packing either. MC is happy for United to use the rules to prevent players leaving but is not happy for Mallala to do the same.

All this talk about contracts is doing my head in. It's funny how MC is happy to assume their existence but admits they are not for everyone to see. Aren't you just a player MC? Why would you have seen them? It's also funny how some players are contracted and some aren't yet they are all payed. In any case no-one on here knows the circumstances of any supposed contract that was made.

Bottom line, MC is happy for players to leave their clubs as long as it's not from United.

[Drop Bear]

So why the hell would you not clear him to play with his mates!

Spot on. That's why most of us play footy.

[uncle_fester]

You said Mallala should clear players to play with their mates regardless of what the rules say. However you don't agree with clearing Willy when he wanted to leave. Obviously you are saying it's fine to break one rule but not the other.

Players who had clearances refused in 2007:

Matthew Leigh
Willy Serle
Dylan Sellar
Michael Curnow

look everyone....shrek knows how to look at a website.....yay for shrek....
...i actually prefer it when your just talking bull sh$t....instead of pretending to know all!!!

you seem to troll around this website putting your uneducated 2c at about everything.
but on more occaisons than not the "locals" of the forum send you packing!!

And you seem to follow me around dribbling s***t without actually contributing anything yourself. Why can't I post one the forum when I have played in the APFL for 14 years?

I haven't been sent packing either. MC is happy for United to use the rules to prevent players leaving but is not happy for Mallala to do the same.

All this talk about contracts is doing my head in. It's funny how MC is happy to assume their existence but admits they are not for everyone to see. Aren't you just a player MC? Why would you have seen them? It's also funny how some players are contracted and some aren't yet they are all payed. In any case no-one on here knows the circumstances of any supposed contract that was made.

Bottom line, MC is happy for players to leave their clubs as long as it's not from United.

you can post wherever you want. but stop pretending to be the king of knowledge in the apfl.
14 years of footy.....when did you leave the league (i bet it was a few years ago)....how many of those years were senior footy (not senior colts!)

if you were as smart as you pretend to be then you wouldve worked out MC seems to post based on facts!

surely if you knew as much as you claim then you would know that SANFL supplys the pro-forma contracts for clubs!!!

[Mythical Creature]

All this talk about contracts is doing my head in. It's funny how MC is happy to assume their existence but admits they are not for everyone to see. Aren't you just a player MC? Why would you have seen them? It's also funny how some players are contracted and some aren't yet they are all payed. In any case no-one on here knows the circumstances of any supposed contract that was made.

Your right Shrekky, I am a player, maybe I'm a contracted player and thats how I've seen them! Yes your right again Shrekky, I did admit they are not for everyone to see. What is the point of a person from Two Wells (for example) of showing someone from another club (ie Me or You) a copy of a contract. Means nothing except between the player and the club.
All I said was, personally I think its wrong to hold back a player using the required player clause. If a club chooses to not clear someone for another reason then that is fine to me. You are still yet to show me an example of when my club (United) have refused someone for being a required player.

Fester raises a good point. 14 years , hogwash Shrekky. Lets assume that you started when you were six (which is very young), played until you went to Uni, say 18. My maths if Im not mistaken means you played for 12 years. Now, if you missed a season in that period, maybe injury or travel, that equals 11 years as a Junior player at Hummocks.

PS: When was your last year in this league??????????????