Blokes who play for cash are nuff nuffs

[Andy #24]

what is wrong with playing for a bit of cash everyone needs it, it's not the good players fault they are better than some scrubbers who can't get paid, if they think they should get some cash go to another club!!!

That opinion is what started this thread off in the first place. People who go around changing clubs willy nilly for money are idiots. They are worse than the shit players who whinge about others getting paid. The reason they move around is because once clubs have had them for a year the club realises they're no good and the player has to go elsewhere.

[LaughingKookaburra]

I heard of a bloke in a GSFL club once that was very loyal to his club and another club close to them offered him $400 a game to play for them.He went there for 1 year and every cent that club was paying him he gave back to his old club on a weekly basis. The team he played for was beaten by his old club during the finals (By a very close margin) and no doubt the 2-3 players his old club bought for with that money would have been very influential in that result.Different twist to the money saga hey...............

How long ago did this happen?

Not going to disclose that sort of information on a public forum. It definatly happened though as I was told from a life member and a committee member of the original club the bloke was from. Nothing wrong with it in my books, just a different twist to the money saga.im sure the truth was stretched when it was said he gave back 100% of the money earned to the original club but a substantual amount was given back (Like $400 per week). If clubs are stupid enough to give that coin out it will backfire on occasions. You normally find the most succesfull clubs are the ones that pay the team evenly like $50 for a loss and $80 for the win with a couple of exceptions.

[floataboy]

I heard of a bloke in a GSFL club once that was very loyal to his club and another club close to them offered him $400 a game to play for them.He went there for 1 year and every cent that club was paying him he gave back to his old club on a weekly basis. The team he played for was beaten by his old club during the finals (By a very close margin) and no doubt the 2-3 players his old club bought for with that money would have been very influential in that result.Different twist to the money saga hey...............

How long ago did this happen?

Not going to disclose that sort of information on a public forum. It definatly happened though as I was told from a life member and a committee member of the original club the bloke was from. Nothing wrong with it in my books, just a different twist to the money saga.im sure the truth was stretched when it was said he gave back 100% of the money earned to the original club but a substantual amount was given back (Like $400 per week). If clubs are stupid enough to give that coin out it will backfire on occasions. You normally find the most succesfull clubs are the ones that pay the team evenly like $50 for a loss and $80 for the win with a couple of exceptions.

but then according to ideas here, those few 'exceptions' are nuff nuffs and arent playing for the team...
so the gun B&F winner should get as much as the scrubba back pocket/bench player who only just makes the team??

[Hazbeen]

In the clubs/leagues I played in you see both types of paid players. The great ones that put in week after week, help out around the club and geniounly respect the club and jumper they are playing for, and then of course there are the clowns who talk themselves up to get the big bickies and do stuff all but winge about everyone else around them if they are not delivering the goods.

One of the best systems I played in was a club in the Mid South East when all A Graders got a minimum payment with the better players of course getting more. As a lower paid A grader I didnt feel as bad that other blokes were getting more than me than as I was still be rewarded for my efforts. At other clubs where I busted my guts each week for nothing to see the big name next to me getting the cash regardless of how they played and locals who were InterLeague players but got nothing from their club because they only paid the imports.

[tedbullpit]

This is without the stupidest and most ridiculous topic I've seen on this forum. If it weren't for the generosity of club sponsors and local supporters, residents & businesses a lot of clubs would cease to exist particularly country clubs. How are towns with small populations 100km+ from Adelaide supposed to lure players? With a bag of wheat and a couple of sheep from the local farmer? I mean fair dinkum grape ape. You should change your name to sour grape.

You can't expect a guy to drive a 200-600km round trip and not get anything in return. SA isn't like it was even as early as 10 years ago. There is nothing keeping locals in their country towns and unless they are going to work on the family farm they are forced to move elsewhere for employment oppurtunites.

The percentage that would play 'just for the money' would be very low and if a club can't sniff this out when they are luring these players then they need to take some of the blame and responsibility.

I've played at two amatuer clubs where players have been paid and am yet to come across anyone who just takes the money and runs. All were expected to and attended club functions and made every effort to contribute to be part of the club wherever possible.

Get with the times Grape Ape

[Grape Ape]

I never critisized clubs who are only doing what they think is in the clubs best interests to acheive on field success. My original post was an observation about guys who play 'just for the money'.

You can't expect a guy to drive a 200-600km round trip and not get anything in return. SA isn't like it was even as early as 10 years ago. There is nothing keeping locals in their country towns and unless they are going to work on the family farm they are forced to move elsewhere for employment oppurtunites.

Q:So who would drive 200-600km to play footy without some sort of personal connection?
A: Obviously, a guy who plays just for the money.

The percentage that would play 'just for the money' would be very low and if a club can't sniff this out when they are luring these players then they need to take some of the blame and responsibility.

So you agree that blokes who play just for the money do exist and should be avoided by footy clubs? So you actually agree with me you nuff nuff.

[Grape Ape]

This isn't just an issue for country clubs. Most of the top amatuer clubs pay players good coin these days. A notable exception (as far as I'm aware) being Goody Saints. Is this fact and their on field success just a coincidence?

[tedbullpit]

I never critisized clubs who are only doing what they think is in the clubs best interests to acheive on field success. My original post was an observation about guys who play 'just for the money'.

You can't expect a guy to drive a 200-600km round trip and not get anything in return. SA isn't like it was even as early as 10 years ago. There is nothing keeping locals in their country towns and unless they are going to work on the family farm they are forced to move elsewhere for employment oppurtunites.

Q:So who would drive 200-600km to play footy without some sort of personal connection?
A: Obviously, a guy who plays just for the money.

The percentage that would play 'just for the money' would be very low and if a club can't sniff this out when they are luring these players then they need to take some of the blame and responsibility.

So you agree that blokes who play just for the money do exist and should be avoided by footy clubs? So you actually agree with me you nuff nuff.

Look at the topic of your thread Grape Ape. That implies that every single paid player is what you call a nuff nuff. The percentage is low and as I said clubs need be able to sniff these guys out when they are recruiting them and if they don't then they have to take some responsibility for this. And no I never played for the money when I played. Played at one local amatuer club where I played for nothing despite having SANFL experience and played at another for 7 years for about $50 a game which covered my fuel costs before injuries finally took their toll.

[Grape Ape]

For the record, I don't consider getting paid a bit of petrol money 'playing for cash'.

And maybe I should have made the topic of the thread "Blokes who only play for cash do not represent good value to clubs".

But I think if you read the rest of my post(s) my argument has some merit. There will always be exceptions to every rule but I think the recent success of Goody Saints, Willunga and Morphette Vale proves that money doesn't equal quality football teams.

[selion]

When you say the Goody Saints, Willungas & Morphett Vales dont pay big money I think you are being a bit naive.
You would be surprised what some of those blokes are on.
If you think blokes like Demasi & co would walk out of league footy and go to a club for "minimal" payments then I think you are a bit naive.
I would think that there would be 5 to 6 blokes on around $300 per game in that side and then everyone else would be getting anywhere from $50 per game to $200 per game.

[heater31]

I have no doubt that some of goody saints players do get some payments but it might be lower that some might think. I think they read the Centrals recruiting hand book spend your cash on not only quality players but quality blokes also. On the other hand the ones that shell out mega bucks and have nothing to show for it, read the South Adelaide handbook

[Micky Conlan]

NEWSFLASH!!!!! The very last Nuff Nuff (very rare KI sealion) actually went to a better place after being wiped out by the KI fires ,so what does this mean no more Nuff Nuff or has everybody had a nuff.
PS i actually do respect GA's thoughts in saying that GOOD FOOTBALLERS + EXTREMLEY CLOSE MATES -$$$$ HUNGRY NUFF NUFFS = PREMIERSHIPS "4" EVER

[brother noompsy 11]

money wat else would they play for'.Some players at arn"t worth a hot pak from the local fish n chip store but they get big buks.

[brother noompsy 11]

the best thing is when your playing on a highly paid player on the day n you run rings round him .n u think you arnt worth S***.an there are a lot of them around.....

[Toughcall]

For the record, I don't consider getting paid a bit of petrol money 'playing for cash'.

And maybe I should have made the topic of the thread "Blokes who only play for cash do not represent good value to clubs".

But I think if you read the rest of my post(s) my argument has some merit. There will always be exceptions to every rule but I think the recent success of Goody Saints, Willunga and Morphette Vale proves that money doesn't equal quality football teams.

Grape Ape are you saying that Willunga do not spend coin to keep its players. The likes of Portlock, Haskett, Hams, Baxter, Carnevale, Genovese, Dobson, Thomas, Steele all play for nothing. I don't think we are all that stupid. Don't get me wrong every club would love that list and would raise the funds to keep the group together, but don't say they are there for nothing.
Goody Saints pay good money for Demasi, Webb, Illman and Tyrell when playing so cut with the anologies that the good and successful clubs don't pay coin, bescause they do and they just do it better, that is all!

[zedman]

This isn't just an issue for country clubs. Most of the top amatuer clubs pay players good coin these days. A notable exception (as far as I'm aware) being Goody Saints. Is this fact and their on field success just a coincidence?

goodwood saints pay mate..dont believe the hype..u dont go top in a1 with no-one getting a cent

[twogood4u]

what is wrong with playing for a bit of cash everyone needs it, it's not the good players fault they are better than some scrubbers who can't get paid, if they think they should get some cash go to another club!!!

That opinion is what started this thread off in the first place. People who go around changing clubs willy nilly for money are idiots. They are worse than the s***t players who whinge about others getting paid. The reason they move around is because once clubs have had them for a year the club realises they're no good and the player has to go elsewhere.

andy how many clubs have you played for?

[twogood4u]

the best thing is when your playing on a highly paid player on the day n you run rings round him .n u think you arnt worth S***.an there are a lot of them around.....

YEAH the best thing about footy is giving these big name player a bath. BLOODY LOVED IT.

[twogood4u]

en-nuff is en-nuff! capitalists are killing the world, let alone football.

[Andy #24]

the best thing is when your playing on a highly paid player on the day n you run rings round him .n u think you arnt worth S***.an there are a lot of them around.....

YEAH the best thing about footy is giving these big name player a bath. BLOODY LOVED IT.

Ha Ha, lots of highly paid players in B grade mate?