BL&G Football League

[Pinch Hitter]

The Nuri side of the 90's did have paid players but they also had a wealth of local talent to back them up just as the Tanunda side has at the moment. I'm not saying at all that Tanunda are not paying out the $ (it is not as high as what has been quoted) but they have some pretty handy locals running around. Freeling & Barossa have not had that local talent and that is showing up now. Kapunda won their 2 with some good imports but also had good local back up.
Swooper

And that is they key, the majority of Nuris list in the 90's was local talent. This means the dollars out is minimal. Not involved now, but looking at a lot of the 'ins' at Nuri this year looks very much like a return of locals again with Gogol, Obst etc.

Some of the biggest earners in the league are locals.. Kennedy is a local is he not and reportedly worth 1000 bucks a game in rival leagues. The Westoff's would love to play at tanunda again one day but i bet they won't play for meal vouchers after their league/afl careers.. the market just won't allow it.

So local talent doesn't mean dollars out are minimal at all, in fact if your big earners are locals then how can you justify not paying other good locals.. you can't.! so even more dollars are required and the viciou$ cycle just keeps going on until the cash cow goes sour.

[TimmiesChin]

Kennedy is a local is he not and reportedly worth 1000 bucks a game in rival leagues.

And I bet hes not getting $1000 at Tanunda. Not al players play for the money, some may actually have other motivations.

[Pinch Hitter]

Kennedy is a local is he not and reportedly worth 1000 bucks a game in rival leagues.

And I bet hes not getting $1000 at Tanunda. Not al players play for the money, some may actually have other motivations.

I would hope not, but that wasn't my point..

Never intended to tarnish all players with the same brush either just stating the facts that just because they're locals doesn't mean their not as valuable on the open market.

[TimmiesChin]

Kennedy is a local is he not and reportedly worth 1000 bucks a game in rival leagues.

And I bet hes not getting $1000 at Tanunda. Not al players play for the money, some may actually have other motivations.

I would hope not, but that wasn't my point..

Never intended to tarnish all players with the same brush either just stating the facts that just because they're locals doesn't mean their not as valuable on the open market.

Point taken, and the inverse is also true. That just because a club gets hold of a few good players, it does not automaticall imply that they are paying out big dollars.... there are other attractions and motivating factors for players.

[Well run]

Kennedy is a local is he not and reportedly worth 1000 bucks a game in rival leagues.

And I bet hes not getting $1000 at Tanunda. Not al players play for the money, some may actually have other motivations.

I would hope not, but that wasn't my point..

Never intended to tarnish all players with the same brush either just stating the facts that just because they're locals doesn't mean their not as valuable on the open market.

Pinch sorry mate but there is not one player going around worth anywhere near that!!!

You hear of players worth this and that but be realistic. $600 would be what the best players going around are on if anymore the club is kidding itself..
Kennedy is a bloody good player in a bloody good side. Just like Hahn is for Gawler Centrals. I bet Hahn would be on $300 max!!!

My point is peoples opinion on how much players are worth are generally just that!!!!

[Pinch Hitter]

no chance in hell hahn is 300 max! he'd get twice that at hamely bridge - i'll take that bet anyday of the week.

anyway my point has been lost.. back on to footy.

Hahn to boot 5 this week and collect the $100 goal bonus

Kennedy to kick 7 and collect $140.

[Well run]

Kennedy is a local is he not and reportedly worth 1000 bucks a game in rival leagues.

And I bet hes not getting $1000 at Tanunda. Not al players play for the money, some may actually have other motivations.

I would hope not, but that wasn't my point..

Never intended to tarnish all players with the same brush either just stating the facts that just because they're locals doesn't mean their not as valuable on the open market.

Point taken, and the inverse is also true. That just because a club gets hold of a few good players, it does not automaticall imply that they are paying out big dollars.... there are other attractions and motivating factors for players.

Hahn wouldn't be on anymore than that!!!!

Happy to get back on footy though... money talk is again just everybody's opinion!!!

[Blue Sky]

I know for a fact that 95% of the Tanunda team are on cash. There is no issue with this but what it means is that teams with the most money will dominate the association in the future. The current import player rule only stops players from outside it doesnt stop the bigger towns paying locals or getting them jobs to become local.
Being able to pay locals is now the norm and this is why you see fringe players going to close associations for money. The better players are being offered $600 as a starter. Some even get sign on fees.
Dont think for a minute that players play for clubs because they love footy - they love the cash and then the footy. Thats why most dont play association or zone games.

[Swooper]

I know for a fact that 95% of the Tanunda team are on cash. There is no issue with this but what it means is that teams with the most money will dominate the association in the future. The current import player rule only stops players from outside it doesnt stop the bigger towns paying locals or getting them jobs to become local.
Being able to pay locals is now the norm and this is why you see fringe players going to close associations for money. The better players are being offered $600 as a starter. Some even get sign on fees.
Dont think for a minute that players play for clubs because they love footy - they love the cash and then the footy. Thats why most dont play association or zone games.

Your facts are VERY VERY wrong, it is well established that there are paid players at Tan but 95%, just complete BS and it is incorrect facts like this tarnish successful clubs. If your facts are so good name all the paid players and give me there totals, if you cannot you have no credibility here. As for the $600 a game that is also very wrong.

Pinchy I know the Donneys have not met the likes of Barossa & Freeling but you also have paid out good dollars to the likes of Norsworthy, Bakers, McLeans (nothing wrong with this), so don't preach that you guys are too innocent.

Swooper

[On The Pine]

Bluey, love to hear more of your input on this topic. East Murray would be an expert on the matter having had to pay to survive and more than likely lost players to bigger clubs willing to pay more. I heard of a bloke from Ango the other day telling a player from a smaller club he was welcome to join Angaston to "have the opportunity to improve his footy" but then offered cash as well. It helped he's pretty handy on the park too I suppose. But this from a club with enough players in the Reserves to enforce a don't train/don't play policy, and his signing probably would have forced someone out of a team. The player in question did the right thing and declined making the point that he was a clubman/1 club player. Good on him, should be more around like him and money wouldn't be part of footy like it is now.

[PitBull]

If Tanunda can afford to pay the amount of money suggested by some on here good on them. I can tell u the money spent in this league is nothing compared to country Victoria. If I was looking for a club to play at facilties, culture and sucess would be other key issuses.
On the pine im sure many members from your club over years would of had asked the same question to many other players from other clubs, as you would know Ango havn't had to much to cheer about in B grade. Don't train don't play policy is tuff talk yet to see it inforced not at this level.

[skipper]

I know for a fact that 95% of the Tanunda team are on cash. There is no issue with this but what it means is that teams with the most money will dominate the association in the future. The current import player rule only stops players from outside it doesnt stop the bigger towns paying locals or getting them jobs to become local.
Being able to pay locals is now the norm and this is why you see fringe players going to close associations for money. The better players are being offered $600 as a starter. Some even get sign on fees.
Dont think for a minute that players play for clubs because they love footy - they love the cash and then the footy. Thats why most dont play association or zone games.

95% get paid, that means 20 of the 21 are getting paid. I wonder how that one that isn't getting paid feels? Seriously no one could even contemplate this level of paments in the BLG even with what has happened over the past few years, look forward to seeing the list that swoop wants.

I think you find the highest paid player is probably at Ango this season, Freeling offered one of Ango's stars $700 a game and he went to Ango, perhaps he did feel that Freeling where going to struggle and that Ango where looking the goods and have certainly proved this and no matter what money Freeling put his way he was not going to play there. I'm certainly not saying this is bad because results talk and Ango are backing this up on the field with a largely local based side with a local coach.

Pinch the Donneys are no angels when it comes to paid players so don't deny it does not go on there. There where certainly rumours that the Donneys had a "past players club" paying a bit under the table in recent times but this happens at most clubs, especially Freeling in recent years.

Skip

[On The Pine]

If Tanunda can afford to pay the amount of money suggested by some on here good on them. I can tell u the money spent in this league is nothing compared to country Victoria. If I was looking for a club to play at facilties, culture and sucess would be other key issuses.
On the pine im sure many members from your club over years would of had asked the same question to many other players from other clubs, as you would know Ango havn't had to much to cheer about in B grade. Don't train don't play policy is tuff talk yet to see it inforced not at this level.

Pitbull, can state with confidence the club I've been associated with have rarely even offered petrol money. The few players that the occasional coach has brought in that have been offered money in the past have been a bust both on and off the field. Hasn't been worth the headache. Granted the ultimate success hasn't come round too often but when it has,the satisfaction has been great that it's been achieved with people who put the club first. Clubs are a community asset, a service that keeps kids fit and off the street. People forget that, chase success at any cost. In the above example, the end result would have been Ango loses a local, possibly to footy altogether, the club from which the paid 'gun' came from struggles even more to field a team. That doesn't help footy anywhere!

[jakovasaurus]

i think someone said it before about all this money talk, its all peoples opinion,

there are certainly some big earners in this league, certainly clubs who pay a lot more than others, and almost certainly several if not more, paying players on the downlow...

[Plugger04]

I know for a fact that 95% of the Tanunda team are on cash. There is no issue with this but what it means is that teams with the most money will dominate the association in the future. The current import player rule only stops players from outside it doesnt stop the bigger towns paying locals or getting them jobs to become local.
Being able to pay locals is now the norm and this is why you see fringe players going to close associations for money. The better players are being offered $600 as a starter. Some even get sign on fees.
Dont think for a minute that players play for clubs because they love footy - they love the cash and then the footy. Thats why most dont play association or zone games.

Your facts are VERY VERY wrong, it is well established that there are paid players at Tan but 95%, just complete BS and it is incorrect facts like this tarnish successful clubs. If your facts are so good name all the paid players and give me there totals, if you cannot you have no credibility here. As for the $600 a game that is also very wrong.

Pinchy I know the Donneys have not met the likes of Barossa & Freeling but you also have paid out good dollars to the likes of Norsworthy, Bakers, McLeans (nothing wrong with this), so don't preach that you guys are too innocent.

Swooper

Kennedy is worth every cent

[daysofourlives]

I know for a fact that 95% of the Tanunda team are on cash. There is no issue with this but what it means is that teams with the most money will dominate the association in the future. The current import player rule only stops players from outside it doesnt stop the bigger towns paying locals or getting them jobs to become local.
Being able to pay locals is now the norm and this is why you see fringe players going to close associations for money. The better players are being offered $600 as a starter. Some even get sign on fees.
Dont think for a minute that players play for clubs because they love footy - they love the cash and then the footy. Thats why most dont play association or zone games.

95% get paid, that means 20 of the 21 are getting paid. I wonder how that one that isn't getting paid feels? Seriously no one could even contemplate this level of paments in the BLG even with what has happened over the past few years, look forward to seeing the list that swoop wants.

I think you find the highest paid player is probably at Ango this season, Freeling offered one of Ango's stars $700 a game and he went to Ango, perhaps he did feel that Freeling where going to struggle and that Ango where looking the goods and have certainly proved this and no matter what money Freeling put his way he was not going to play there. I'm certainly not saying this is bad because results talk and Ango are backing this up on the field with a largely local based side with a local coach.

Pinch the Donneys are no angels when it comes to paid players so don't deny it does not go on there. There where certainly rumours that the Donneys had a "past players club" paying a bit under the table in recent times but this happens at most clubs, especially Freeling in recent years.

Skip

good work skip ur maths is correct this time

[Johnny Bowla]

I know for a fact that 95% of the Tanunda team are on cash. There is no issue with this but what it means is that teams with the most money will dominate the association in the future. The current import player rule only stops players from outside it doesnt stop the bigger towns paying locals or getting them jobs to become local.
Being able to pay locals is now the norm and this is why you see fringe players going to close associations for money. The better players are being offered $600 as a starter. Some even get sign on fees.
Dont think for a minute that players play for clubs because they love footy - they love the cash and then the footy. Thats why most dont play association or zone games.

95% get paid, that means 20 of the 21 are getting paid. I wonder how that one that isn't getting paid feels? Seriously no one could even contemplate this level of paments in the BLG even with what has happened over the past few years, look forward to seeing the list that swoop wants.

I think you find the highest paid player is probably at Ango this season, Freeling offered one of Ango's stars $700 a game and he went to Ango, perhaps he did feel that Freeling where going to struggle and that Ango where looking the goods and have certainly proved this and no matter what money Freeling put his way he was not going to play there. I'm certainly not saying this is bad because results talk and Ango are backing this up on the field with a largely local based side with a local coach.

Pinch the Donneys are no angels when it comes to paid players so don't deny it does not go on there. There where certainly rumours that the Donneys had a "past players club" paying a bit under the table in recent times but this happens at most clubs, especially Freeling in recent years.

Skip

good work skip ur maths is correct this time

I dont know about 95% but you would say most of them are getting something, be it petrol money or a payment.
Maybe bottom 5 or 6 not getting cash. Cant name too many that wouldn't be.

[Pinch Hitter]

I know for a fact that 95% of the Tanunda team are on cash. There is no issue with this but what it means is that teams with the most money will dominate the association in the future. The current import player rule only stops players from outside it doesnt stop the bigger towns paying locals or getting them jobs to become local.
Being able to pay locals is now the norm and this is why you see fringe players going to close associations for money. The better players are being offered $600 as a starter. Some even get sign on fees.
Dont think for a minute that players play for clubs because they love footy - they love the cash and then the footy. Thats why most dont play association or zone games.

Your facts are VERY VERY wrong, it is well established that there are paid players at Tan but 95%, just complete BS and it is incorrect facts like this tarnish successful clubs. If your facts are so good name all the paid players and give me there totals, if you cannot you have no credibility here. As for the $600 a game that is also very wrong.

Pinchy I know the Donneys have not met the likes of Barossa & Freeling but you also have paid out good dollars to the likes of Norsworthy, Bakers, McLeans (nothing wrong with this), so don't preach that you guys are too innocent.

Swooper

no preaching swooper my point was that there is no controls in the system or even attempts at ones.

no doubt all clubs shell out peas... i am sure the likes of mono connelly, jamie thomas, des dwyer and rob trukula weren't just doing it for love when i was playing 20 odd years ago either.

to be playing footy in these times would be magnificent. There's not too many 5'2 hard tackling rovers these days that can kick 36 goals in a season when resting in a pocket.. i'd be worth 350 in the league today and more outside.

[steam train]

[/quote]

no preaching swooper my point was that there is no controls in the system or even attempts at ones.

no doubt all clubs shell out peas... i am sure the likes of mono connelly, jamie thomas, des dwyer and rob trukula weren't just doing it for love when i was playing 20 odd years ago either.

to be playing footy in these times would be magnificent. There's not too many 5'2 hard tackling rovers these days that can kick 36 goals in a season when resting in a pocket.. i'd be worth 350 in the league today and more outside.[/quote]

you are a dime a dozen

[Pac-Man]

I know for a fact that 95% of the Tanunda team are on cash. There is no issue with this but what it means is that teams with the most money will dominate the association in the future. The current import player rule only stops players from outside it doesnt stop the bigger towns paying locals or getting them jobs to become local.
Being able to pay locals is now the norm and this is why you see fringe players going to close associations for money. The better players are being offered $600 as a starter. Some even get sign on fees.
Dont think for a minute that players play for clubs because they love footy - they love the cash and then the footy. Thats why most dont play association or zone games.

Your facts are VERY VERY wrong, it is well established that there are paid players at Tan but 95%, just complete BS and it is incorrect facts like this tarnish successful clubs. If your facts are so good name all the paid players and give me there totals, if you cannot you have no credibility here. As for the $600 a game that is also very wrong.

Pinchy I know the Donneys have not met the likes of Barossa & Freeling but you also have paid out good dollars to the likes of Norsworthy, Bakers, McLeans (nothing wrong with this), so don't preach that you guys are too innocent.

Swooper

no preaching swooper my point was that there is no controls in the system or even attempts at ones.

no doubt all clubs shell out peas... i am sure the likes of mono connelly, jamie thomas, des dwyer and rob trukula weren't just doing it for love when i was playing 20 odd years ago either.

to be playing footy in these times would be magnificent. There's not too many 5'2 hard tackling rovers these days that can kick 36 goals in a season when resting in a pocket.. i'd be worth 350 in the league today and more outside.

Was that resting in a back pocket Pinch Hitter ?

We also shelled out plenty for the likes Wilbur Wilson , Phil Graham & David Harvey just to mention a few, but these guys put bums on seats and kept the turnstiles spinning at the dog track. There is no crime in paying players , its good for the game to attract former stars to grass roots football.

I am a big believer in scrapping the import rule with no salary cap , high quality football in the BL&G will be the big winner at the end of day.