Spencer Gulf League

[7-Dog]

After South's great year are there any likely player losses you can speak about 7 Dog? (Rivers, Margatich, Payne?)
Or gains?

Other club happenings?

Margatich is coming back, I believe Payne is again & Rivers needs to convince the Mrs. Gillard will also return, young big lad travelled with Shirley & Kerin, played in GF.
There would be no losses at this stage, & the gains at this stage will come from within.

[Jimmy_041]

I still say the girlie yellow and red card system belongs in soccer, not mens football.

I knew someone would say it.

South have met with the player in question and was made to explain his actions, I won't go into his response, but South Augusta have imposed an 8 match ban. The reason from the club, was that it fell in-line with the Hall incident, which the club official told me Hall got 6 games for (I can't remember how much he did get). The player has written a letter of an apology to both the Lions Football Club and the player involved in the unfortunate incident.

is that it????

I agree that it should be more. But, Hall got 7 games for his hit, and the same official who told me of this, said the SGL is bound by the SA Country Football Inc or SANFL (not sure which one he said), and their recommended punishment is only a maximum of ??. I don't know what that figure is, but obviously it is less than the 8 games SAFC gave. You can't condemn SAFC for any sanction they impose, because this has happened in previous Grand Finals, especially 2005 & 2011 from recent memory & neither of those clubs imposed any ban, nor where asked to enforce a ban. The 2011 incident also received 2 games from the tribunal.

As I said earlier, the AFL needed to suspend Hall for life right there and then and make an example, just like the NRL should do for the biting incident.

Absolute bollocks - no such rule

[7-Dog]

Yeah it's not a rule, it's a guideline they use to determine the punishment for different offenses. I got suspended earlier in the season and they read from the guideline to inform me of my 1 match suspension for time wasting.

[Poultry in Motion]

After South's great year are there any likely player losses you can speak about 7 Dog? (Rivers, Margatich, Payne?)
Or gains?

Other club happenings?

Margatich is coming back, I believe Payne is again & Rivers needs to convince the Mrs. Gillard will also return, young big lad travelled with Shirley & Kerin, played in GF.
There would be no losses at this stage, & the gains at this stage will come from within.

South would have to be happy with that! The other 5 clubs might not be though!

[Jimmy_041]

That would be a SGL guideline
There's nothing in the CFL Rules & Regs about set penalties
There IS a rule about being able to appeal for a 10 game sentence
The 2 game suspension for that GF hit is absolute rubbish - dont blame anyone else but your own league
He would have got 8 - 10 games down here

[McGovern]

I still say the girlie yellow and red card system belongs in soccer, not mens football.

Kinghitting has no place in a man's game. If the SGL does not move to eliminate these sorts of acts it will be to it's own detriment, as less parents will want their kids taking up the game. The clubs need to demand it.

[The Indian]

I still say the girlie yellow and red card system belongs in soccer, not mens football.

Kinghitting has no place in a man's game. If the SGL does not move to eliminate these sorts of acts it will be to it's own detriment, as less parents will want their kids taking up the game. The clubs need to demand it.

I believe the Lions player, after viewing the footage, has realised how much of a dog act it was has alledgedly pressed assault charges.
Also the said South player apparently coaches mini-colts for Centrals, not really a good example to be setting for the kids.
South's should have moved the player on, there is more to lose than gain by keeping him. That's my View.

[Sky Pilot]

I still say the girlie yellow and red card system belongs in soccer, not mens football.

Kinghitting has no place in a man's game. If the SGL does not move to eliminate these sorts of acts it will be to it's own detriment, as less parents will want their kids taking up the game. The clubs need to demand it.

I agree 100% that violence in football needs to be dealt with harshly, I just don't want to see the red and yellow cards infect our game.

[Armytank]

It doesn't infect our game at all mate.

It makes you accountable for your actions on the day, not welching out on some rediculous tribunal system the following Wednesday night.

Go ahead, belt some bloke, but be accountable for your actions. That is being a man. Not weasling out 4 days later in a "he said/she said" pathetic display of process.

Surely you would agree being accountable to your team mates is the truely manly thing to do, not hiding behind a club delegate after the fact like a little girl.

[Easy Miss]

It doesn't infect our game at all mate.

It makes you accountable for your actions on the day, not welching out on some rediculous tribunal system the following Wednesday night.

Go ahead, belt some bloke, but be accountable for your actions. That is being a man. Not weasling out 4 days later in a "he said/she said" pathetic display of process.

Surely you would agree being accountable to your team mates is the truely manly thing to do, not hiding behind a club delegate after the fact like a little girl.

Spot on Armytank. Get with the times SGL. SAAFL and HFL have it and it eliminates anyone deciding to lose the plot on the Footy Field. And if they do, well they spend the rest of the day on the pine. It's a no brainer and if policed properly is a winner

[kinghit]

It doesn't infect our game at all mate.

It makes you accountable for your actions on the day, not welching out on some rediculous tribunal system the following Wednesday night.

Go ahead, belt some bloke, but be accountable for your actions. That is being a man. Not weasling out 4 days later in a "he said/she said" pathetic display of process.

Surely you would agree being accountable to your team mates is the truely manly thing to do, not hiding behind a club delegate after the fact like a little girl.

Spot on Armytank. Get with the times SGL. SAAFL and HFL have it and it eliminates anyone deciding to lose the plot on the Footy Field. And if they do, well they spend the rest of the day on the pine. It's a no brainer and if policed properly is a winner

I was under the impression that umpires already had the ability to send off players if the circumstances warranted it. If not, surely having the ability to send someone off for a period for something very serious (e.g. this years B Grade Final, Wilson in 2011) can't be a bad thing...I'm not sure how yellow cards would work; umpires have a hard enough time making decisions let alone determining what acts deserve a yellow card. Making productive decisions has never been a strong point of the SGL so don't expect any outcomes from grand final day

South have met with the player in question and was made to explain his actions, I won't go into his response, but South Augusta have imposed an 8 match ban. The reason from the club, was that it fell in-line with the Hall incident, which the club official told me Hall got 6 games for (I can't remember how much he did get). The player has written a letter of an apology to both the Lions Football Club and the player involved in the unfortunate incident.

is that it????

Will be interesting to see whether he does decide to continue playing, was a fringe player at best in the B's having been fortunate to retain his spot for the finals.

[Sky Pilot]

Can anyone confirm that the Ports coaching job is vacant and that Duck Davies has been given another term at Sollies?

[Killa]

It doesn't infect our game at all mate.

It makes you accountable for your actions on the day, not welching out on some rediculous tribunal system the following Wednesday night.

Go ahead, belt some bloke, but be accountable for your actions. That is being a man. Not weasling out 4 days later in a "he said/she said" pathetic display of process.

Surely you would agree being accountable to your team mates is the truely manly thing to do, not hiding behind a club delegate after the fact like a little girl.

Spot on Armytank. Get with the times SGL. SAAFL and HFL have it and it eliminates anyone deciding to lose the plot on the Footy Field. And if they do, well they spend the rest of the day on the pine. It's a no brainer and if policed properly is a winner

The incident was cause by an umpire not paying free kicks and losing control. This was predicted by people when they seen who was umpiring.

Card system is a joke fullstop. When a player gets sent off for a low category report. Red should be only shown for sent off offences. It doesn't matter when the player was reported for the wrong offence which allowed him to take an early guilty plea.

The south player will receive the same penalty Hoffman got if is found guilty of a criminal charge of assault. The courts force Hoffman to sit out of footy for 12 months,

[Killa]

I still say the girlie yellow and red card system belongs in soccer, not mens football.

I knew someone would say it.

South have met with the player in question and was made to explain his actions, I won't go into his response, but South Augusta have imposed an 8 match ban. The reason from the club, was that it fell in-line with the Hall incident, which the club official told me Hall got 6 games for (I can't remember how much he did get). The player has written a letter of an apology to both the Lions Football Club and the player involved in the unfortunate incident.

is that it????

I agree that it should be more. But, Hall got 7 games for his hit, and the same official who told me of this, said the SGL is bound by the SA Country Football Inc or SANFL (not sure which one he said), and their recommended punishment is only a maximum of ??. I don't know what that figure is, but obviously it is less than the 8 games SAFC gave. You can't condemn SAFC for any sanction they impose, because this has happened in previous Grand Finals, especially 2005 & 2011 from recent memory & neither of those clubs imposed any ban, nor where asked to enforce a ban. The 2011 incident also received 2 games from the tribunal.

As I said earlier, the AFL needed to suspend Hall for life right there and then and make an example, just like the NRL should do for the biting incident.

Absolute bollocks - no such rule

When a suspension reaches a certain amount the sanfl or sacfl get involved. Not including the appeal process.

[Armytank]

Card system is a joke fullstop. When a player gets sent off for a low category report.

It is not a joke at all mate, it works pretty well usually. Swing a punch and miss, you get 10 mins on the pine. Swing one and hit the bloke, get the rest of the game on the pine and you can't be replaced for 10 mins.

The idea is don't throw the punch in the first place. As I said, it makes you accountable to your team mates. I can't see why anyone would not want that in their game of footy, unless you are a punch happy thug yourself.

Got a problem with being accountable?

Place some pretty severe consequences on your actions and see how quickly your game of footy and league is cleaned up

[stomper]

Card system is a joke fullstop. When a player gets sent off for a low category report.

It is not a joke at all mate, it works pretty well usually. Swing a punch and miss, you get 10 mins on the pine. Swing one and hit the bloke, get the rest of the game on the pine and you can't be replaced for 10 mins.

The idea is don't throw the punch in the first place. As I said, it makes you accountable to your team mates. I can't see why anyone would not want that in their game of footy, unless you are a punch happy thug yourself.

Got a problem with being accountable?

Place some pretty severe consequences on your actions and see how quickly your game of footy and league is cleaned up

Well said....No place in this day and age for king hits.

[Sky Pilot]

Card system is a joke fullstop. When a player gets sent off for a low category report.

It is not a joke at all mate, it works pretty well usually. Swing a punch and miss, you get 10 mins on the pine. Swing one and hit the bloke, get the rest of the game on the pine and you can't be replaced for 10 mins.

The idea is don't throw the punch in the first place. As I said, it makes you accountable to your team mates. I can't see why anyone would not want that in their game of footy, unless you are a punch happy thug yourself.

Got a problem with being accountable?

Place some pretty severe consequences on your actions and see how quickly your game of footy and league is cleaned up

Well said....No place in this day and age for king hits.

No place for soccer rules either. If the umpie spots a backhander, a king hit, a trip or an errant kick to the gonads he just needs to inform the suspect that he is reported and on Tuesday night he will be dealt with in the fullness of time and without all the emotion of the moment. Thats why we have commisioners FFS. If the thuggery continues so do the reports and the penalty would increaSE proportionately surely. Has worked for 100 years. Faaaark off with the soccer stuff

[Killa]

Card system is a joke fullstop. When a player gets sent off for a low category report.

It is not a joke at all mate, it works pretty well usually. Swing a punch and miss, you get 10 mins on the pine. Swing one and hit the bloke, get the rest of the game on the pine and you can't be replaced for 10 mins.

The idea is don't throw the punch in the first place. As I said, it makes you accountable to your team mates. I can't see why anyone would not want that in their game of footy, unless you are a punch happy thug yourself.

Got a problem with being accountable?

Place some pretty severe consequences on your actions and see how quickly your game of footy and league is cleaned up

I've witness the system in the saafl it doesn't work. Players should never be sent off under a category 1 offence, but this system promotes that. It disadvantages teams, as a umpire may dislike a team or a player they are umpiring against. Then go up to the tribunal and be found not guilty.

Fact is the umpires stuff up by reporting him for the wrong offence. Striking report you can take 2 game early guilty plea which he did and smart the club. If reported for assault you can not take an early guilty plea. Secondly he should have been sent off due a category 2 offence. No need for a card system. The umpires need to take control of games by playing free kicks and knowing the rules about reportable offences.

[footymusic]

Umpires just have to toughen up and start reporting more & more, I realise the weak as piss SGL don't back them up at the tribunal, but keep loading them up with reports each week, the tribunal & the players will eventually get sick of it and the tribunal will start giving more appriopriate sentences especially to repeat offenders, and the players you would think would eventually realise that if you do something stupid you WILL be reported & get games no question!
Goal umpires especially have to start being the field umpires eyes also, not turning a blind eye to off the ball indescretions.
I hope Lions are not taking the high morale ground here also as one of their A grade thugs king hit a 16 yr old Port lad (twice) in the last minor round game right in front of the Port coaches box, but as there was no camera footage of it and it wasnt a GF it obviously got no coverage like the Souths player hit on the Lions lad.
No club is immune to being on either side of the fence.

[Furry Wall]

Good point above footymusic, the only way things are going to change is if the league properly cracks down - have seriously lost count at the amount of should be reports I have seen happen right in front of the umpire.

But anyway...!! Has anybody got any best and fairest results from any of the clubs? I assume most if not all would have been counted by now. Also I do believe Ports are still looking for an A grade coach to replace Matt Ganley, but are all the other coaches staying put? All bar Matt were in their first season as coach this season so I suspect that is the case.