GSFL - Points System

[BJ Ernest]

So which clubs voted for it?

Do you honestly believe its a good system Limb?
Does it make it easy for sides like Yank, Pongy etc. to actually compete with the stronger clubs?

[LuvsFooty]

If you can play a couple of colts, get some old 'juniors' back, then grab 4-5 key players the bottom clubs can work it out and still be well within their points allocation. Having said that I thought more clubs would have voted no.

[limb]

All clubs support it apart from Victor and Willunga..

I don't have a problem with the points system. I think it will make the league more transparant and fair. There are 1,001 ways to rort a salary cap. I'm not accusing any clubs of doing it but you just never know. A points system is black and white. You can't rort it.

A few years ago the salary cap came in and I'm sure there would've been a few clubs that were sceptical back then but it came in and worked pretty well. Clubs are often afraid of change but from what I hear the points system will be state wide within a couple of years so we may as well embrace it.

[BJ Ernest]

I guess my worry is that those clubs that are further from the suburbs will just find it some much harder to compete. Clubs with big areas, Strath, Willunga, Mclaren Vale, Creeks will find it so much easier to stay competitive.

If it does come in we have no choice but to embrace it. However with the discrepancy between areas of where people are from the hardest thing is to keep juniors once they leave school.
i.e I grew up at Victor but study and live in Adelaide. Its quite a trek from the city where i live to play footy at Victor. Much easier if i grew up in Mclaren Vale, can probably still live there and if I have moved its much closer to train, play and socialise. This will hurt these clubs as there geographical position counts against them.

It will be decided at the AGM and hopefully the clubs make the right decision whichever that is. Fingers crossed the league stays as strong and competitive as it is at the moment.

[limb]

I don't know if you can call a population of 750 people a big area! Langhorne Creek isn't exactly a thriving metropolis!

[BJ Ernest]

No but its 10 minutes from Strath and the kids all go to the one school so its basically where ya friends play u will go and play.

[Hardly_super]

So has anyone thought outside of the square yet?

if im correct you can recruit as many players to your club as you want under the points system?
i thought it only mattered how many points you had on the field on a given day.
that to me suggest a club should not even think about the points system when recruiting and just get as many players as they can.

example the "a team" could just sit 2 senior colts on the bench with no real intent to play them in effect they would be playing with 19 players. this frees up points! (example only) or just play with two on the bench!!

if your club does recruit well and your "best 22" does go over the allowed points then this will put pressure on those top end players at local clubs. just imajine how much better some of these players would be if they weren't a sure pick evey week!

im not saying im for or against the system i just think if it comes in teams need to be smarter about how they pitch it to both recruits and thier current lists.

Manipulate the situation to best suit you as best you can!

[Grape Ape]

You make some very interesting points there Hardly. The prospect of ex-AFL or SANFL guns competing for selection each week would be a great position for a club to be in - but not a very efficient use of funds, given that recruiting often involves sign on fees and other non match related incentives these days . And I guess that is the point. The points system will limit the amount of cash that clubs can throw at recruits (assuming it doesn't result in more coin for fewer players).

Once clubs use up their allocated points, it would be prudent to direct any surplus towards junior programs and attract as many juniors as possible to the club thereby bolstering future player stocks. This is not only good for the club, but good for the sport. Take a drive around town on a Saturday morning and check out how many young kids are playing soccer. The more leagues adopting a points system the better I say. In the short term, it will be hard for clubs to close the gap on Willunga and The Creek but in the long term it will focus resources towards home grown product. Another benefit will be that clubs may have resources to reward and keep some of their home grown talent. High paid recruits versus local talent playing for the love of it has always been a source of tension. Keeping a quality player will be as good as or even better than attracting a top recruit.

To be a total success all leagues would need to adopt a points system otherwise we could see 'super-leagues' evolve where no restrictions are applied to recruiting.

Think of the possibilities jingles!! You could play for club you love and be scoring $900 a week for doing it!

[LuvsFooty]

I think you will find that some clubs will have more than 1 coach coach, remembering that player coaches do not count for as many points as a regular player. At the saints we now have 36 blokes on the coaching panel.

[Hardly_super]

Grape Ape im gonna throw this out there...

I reckon that ex sanfl and afl players would have the experience and ability to preform under selectin pressure anyway. I was thinking more along the lines of the top ten players at a club (not that many players going around were Modras or Hueskes) actually having to preform every week.

My bet is players no matter how good they will be looked at from a consistancy point of view. Nolonger can you play someone on the basis that they "might Preform" this week.

Glad to see you do agree on the Junior perspective. I agree that this points system may just give a few more juniors a chance to experience A garde footy and hopefully retention will increase across the board.

[Micky Conlan]

RIP GSFL....it was once a good leauge but were now down to 7 teams due to the fact 3 clubs couldnt survive getting flogged by 50 goals each week.All the kids are walking out the door because there sick of losing,and 5 of the last 7 clubs owe the banks thousands cos there trying to match the"new" market value of the gun CHF that's getting $2000 a game . I do remember when it was a very competive 10 team comp,when the juniors had to work hard for a game,had do a preseason could actually kick a drop punt but now it may else well be 6 aside just let the guns play!There was a time when if you moved into a town you could play for that town,but now when you walk through that door they don't ask you your name they ask you how many points are you worth....were all just numbers now...RIP GSFL

[LuvsFooty]

I think you will find that some clubs will have more than 1 coach coach, remembering that player coaches do not count for as many points as a regular player. At the saints we now have 36 blokes on the coaching panel.

I am wrong a playing coach comes under the point system as per a 'normal' player, I just re-read the rules and regulations of the point system.

[FootyMad]

RIP GSFL....it was once a good leauge but were now down to 7 teams due to the fact 3 clubs couldnt survive getting flogged by 50 goals each week.All the kids are walking out the door because there sick of losing,and 5 of the last 7 clubs owe the banks thousands cos there trying to match the"new" market value of the gun CHF that's getting $2000 a game . I do remember when it was a very competive 10 team comp,when the juniors had to work hard for a game,had do a preseason could actually kick a drop punt but now it may else well be 6 aside just let the guns play!There was a time when if you moved into a town you could play for that town,but now when you walk through that door they don't ask you your name they ask you how many points are you worth....were all just numbers now...RIP GSFL

great post!

[s m skinner]

the way you need to look at the points system is that its only being brught in because the salary cap is not working . The points idea is good but it needs to be balanced well enough that the bottom teams can get up to the top teams . As it stands noe the difference of 32 points for the top teams and 35 points for the bottom 6 is not different enough . it should be scaled from say 30 for the top 2 down to about 40 for the bottem 2 . If you club coaches and recruiting offices are smart with who they can recruit then it can work for you .

[LuvsFooty]

s m skinner are you sound like a disgruntled suppoerter of one of the bottom teams!

[s m skinner]

not at all , im an avid supporter of GSFL footy

[Spot]

Sorry, but I would like to know more about the points system, My son was rang and asked if he would like play for a club and they told what point he would be. As we know nothing about it could someone please point us in the direction to get more info.
My son will be happy to go to play with friends but we would like to understand the point system.

[GWW]

Sorry, but I would like to know more about the points system, My son was rang and asked if he would like play for a club and they told what point he would be. As we know nothing about it could someone please point us in the direction to get more info.
My son will be happy to go to play with friends but we would like to understand the point system.

I'm no expert on GSFL points system, but it depends on a few things i think - such as whether or not your son has played A grade somewhere in last couple of years. If hes played juniors for one of the club in GSFL he'd automatically be worth minimum points for that club i think. If hes B Grade standard there may possibly be a tribunal system where the club can make a decision on decreasing his points worth.

But yeah its fairly complex, probably best to contact someone in the GSFL administration, or get one of the clubs to do it on your son's behalf.

[Spot]

He has only played about 3 A grade games for a SAAF whilst playing U19's for SANFL, never played out that way but some good friends play out there and he played school football with them and would love to play football for the love of the game again. It just seems like a strange system and if you go to a club you need to get on with all the other guys or it would be hard to move clubs by the sounds of it.

[GWW]

He has only played about 3 A grade games for a SAAF whilst playing U19's for SANFL, never played out that way but some good friends play out there and he played school football with them and would love to play football for the love of the game again. It just seems like a strange system and if you go to a club you need to get on with all the other guys or it would be hard to move clubs by the sounds of it.

Oh ok. Also depends on the club he wants to go to as some would have more points allocated to them than others, so they may be able to better fit him into their points allocation.

If he's only played 3 A grade games he might be worth minimal points, I'd say get in touch with Kevin Curran and get it clarified.