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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby outsmarts » Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:37 pm

Don’t understand what the issue is with hills footy, from what I saw in last week’s finals this competition is alive and well. No doubt div 2 needs attention before we lose clubs like Birdwood but div 1 seems to me to be really strong. The standard is good and will only get better the longer TV are up and when Mt Lofty can get over the financial woes with their young players they will be finals bound once again. All clubs except maybe bridgy who may leave this year anyway, seem to be on the right track. The last thing this comp needs is to separate, Blackwood needs strong clubs like Mt barker, Handorf and Uraidla. Mt Lofty and Ironbank the same. Why separate a good comp? When it would be even easier to fix a few slight problems and concerns that the clubs have? Stop your winging and start helping the comp we are in by providing solutions. Echunga in bridgy out would only strengthen the comp but that’s up to the Echunga board to decide on if they will want to jump up, with div2 starting to fall it would be a wise move for them. Re the umpire’s situation, I think there needs to an overhaul and start getting ex players into the umpiring game, these guys that have never played before over umpire the game way too much for finals. Hopefully this week they give a better account of themselves. Let’s just hope Taylor doesn’t get a final and ruin the spectacle trying to influence the game as he does.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby geep8370 » Fri Sep 07, 2012 7:38 am

supercoach wrote:Hey Atlantis you may not be so smug when your little castle crumbles. Have heard that 7 teams from Hfl and 3 to 5 from sfl have agreed in pricipal to develop the concept of a new league. No hfl west of the freeway within a year or 2. Hfl have lost the ability to run 2 divs effectively especially with juniors and the alternative is very attractive from the info i have been privvy to. Sponsors are around and happy to support I believe. Mickey Taylor and his mates may want to go back from where they came to umpire a decent game !


heard about those discussions as well. Not a new league as such but as part of the SFL as a Hills division giving the SFL the 2 divisions it needs.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Justquietly » Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:26 am

I think there's a lot of hearsay being bandied around here. I can understand some of it eg Blackwood going to SFL, Bridgey to div 2, Echunga come up.
I CANNOT comprehend why teams would want to be a part of the SFL. As outsmarts pointed out - Central was quite healthy this year. Lobey have lifted, Lofty are clearing debts, IB played finals & TV have worked their way up. What's the discontent? Is it purely aimed at the actual HFL admin?
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Whiteline » Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:57 am

supercoach wrote:Hey Atlantis you may not be so smug when your little castle crumbles. Have heard that 7 teams from Hfl and 3 to 5 from sfl have agreed in pricipal to develop the concept of a new league. No hfl west of the freeway within a year or 2. Hfl have lost the ability to run 2 divs effectively especially with juniors and the alternative is very attractive from the info i have been privvy to. Sponsors are around and happy to support I believe. Mickey Taylor and his mates may want to go back from where they came to umpire a decent game !


Who are the 7 HFL teams you've referred to?
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Bat Pad » Fri Sep 07, 2012 12:40 pm

supercoach wrote:Hey Atlantis you may not be so smug when your little castle crumbles. Have heard that 7 teams from Hfl and 3 to 5 from sfl have agreed in pricipal to develop the concept of a new league. No hfl west of the freeway within a year or 2. Hfl have lost the ability to run 2 divs effectively especially with juniors and the alternative is very attractive from the info i have been privvy to. Sponsors are around and happy to support I believe. Mickey Taylor and his mates may want to go back from where they came to umpire a decent game !


West of the Freeway? Its runs West to East. Did you mean South?
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Sniper » Fri Sep 07, 2012 12:44 pm

outsmarts wrote:Don’t understand what the issue is with hills footy, from what I saw in last week’s finals this competition is alive and well. No doubt div 2 needs attention before we lose clubs like Birdwood but div 1 seems to me to be really strong. The standard is good and will only get better the longer TV are up and when Mt Lofty can get over the financial woes with their young players they will be finals bound once again. All clubs except maybe bridgy who may leave this year anyway, seem to be on the right track. The last thing this comp needs is to separate, Blackwood needs strong clubs like Mt barker, Handorf and Uraidla. Mt Lofty and Ironbank the same. Why separate a good comp? When it would be even easier to fix a few slight problems and concerns that the clubs have? Stop your winging and start helping the comp we are in by providing solutions. Echunga in bridgy out would only strengthen the comp but that’s up to the Echunga board to decide on if they will want to jump up, with div2 starting to fall it would be a wise move for them. Re the umpire’s situation, I think there needs to an overhaul and start getting ex players into the umpiring game, these guys that have never played before over umpire the game way too much for finals. Hopefully this week they give a better account of themselves. Let’s just hope Taylor doesn’t get a final and ruin the spectacle trying to influence the game as he does.

remember someone during Wednesday nights medal presentations encouraging players to become involved with umpiring .... even offerred this invitation to a Courier reporter !
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby has been » Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:52 pm

Bat pad - Driving down the freeway from my home at mount barker and heading to adelaide, anything on the left hand side is where the sun sets - so I call it west. Hahndorf is on the right so they are not involved. Maccy haven't been asked as everyone thinks they no be around. Consider all teams from there approachable re a move and most actively discussing as the benefits put forward are huge and the SFL teams are not your sissy acts either !!!! Top 3 of 5 maybe from what I hear. Interesting times ahead. It is as I understand it all about the admin at the HFL and their pig headedness and clubs are sick of it in a nutshell. Pretty impressive blueprint by the way. Will be a big shock to Gus and his boys once tabled officially. Southern Hills Football sounds good doesn't it.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Whiteline » Fri Sep 07, 2012 4:40 pm

So Has Been.........are the teams rumoured to be going to the SFL Bridgy, Lofty, IB and the Woods? Is that what you are suggesting? Any others?

What are the alleged benefits put forward?
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Afterthesiren » Fri Sep 07, 2012 4:54 pm

Whiteline wrote:So Has Been.........are the teams rumoured to be going to the SFL Bridgy, Lofty, IB and the Woods? Is that what you are suggesting? Any others?

What are the alleged benefits put forward?


I thought it'd be more the Country Div clubs like Meadows, Kangarilla and Echunga but I guess you can stick Bridgy in that mix now. I'd say the benefits would be less travel and a guarantee of a 9-10 team comp given Country Div could be reduced to 7 if Birdwood and Sedan go elsewhere and Callington fold. Looking at the SFL clubs on sportingpulse 90% of them have a full compliment of juniors. You'd be silly not to consider it.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Redfern07 » Fri Sep 07, 2012 4:58 pm

has been wrote:Who are the 4 hfl clubs now seriously looking at SFL. They are sick to death of the Chronies and the boys club running the hfl. SFL president I believe is bending over backwards. From what I know the hfl wont be advised by 2 certain clubs till feb next year. SFL will become 2 divisions with 10 in each. Interesting times ahead. Suggest the hfl needs new leadership.


Here is a post made by "has been" at a very similar time last year..... sound familiar :roll: :-@ (-|
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Straight Line » Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:07 pm

What im hearing its country not central but if SFL went 2 divs maccy and kangy would look at it.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby has been » Fri Sep 07, 2012 6:02 pm

Straight Line - discussions do definately involve 4 central clubs mentioned and ATS is a very clever cookie with the correct call on the country div teams involved.
Redfern07 - what a sensational get from last year which goes to prove that these talks have not just sprung up overnight. Those of you who know the "has been" know he gets most things right over time and as a 2 time premiership coach in the HFL he has his hand on the pulse so to speak. Even if I say so myself. Should be an interesting month or so ahead. Here's a little tip of the other teams involved - they start with the letters R,H,A,W,S and not all are SFL (3 are). Enjoy.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby vics01 » Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:12 pm

I don't believe it will be that easy for clubs to just decide we are going to another league. I would think the SACFL will have to approve any changes.

Secondly I don't think Hills clubs would want to start in Div 2 of the SFL. What I mean by this is that SFL clubs would have to vote and given they can't sort it out now with clubs volunteering to be Div 2. I can hardly see them voting to be a Div 2 club and letting a Hills club go to DIV 1. Unfortunately SELF INTEREST will over rule common sense.

Don't think the grass is any greener with regard to how the SFL is run either. SACFL will not do any favours for the SFL as the Board is always at war with them.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Afterthesiren » Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:26 pm

vics01 wrote:I don't believe it will be that easy for clubs to just decide we are going to another league. I would think the SACFL will have to approve any changes.

Secondly I don't think Hills clubs would want to start in Div 2 of the SFL. What I mean by this is that SFL clubs would have to vote and given they can't sort it out now with clubs volunteering to be Div 2. I can hardly see them voting to be a Div 2 club and letting a Hills club go to DIV 1. Unfortunately SELF INTEREST will over rule common sense.

Don't think the grass is any greener with regard to how the SFL is run either. SACFL will not do any favours for the SFL as the Board is always at war with them.


A club is not bound by a league, a club pays to be in a league, a club can come and go from a league. The league just has to accept their application. The CFL have no power over this.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby vics01 » Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:42 pm

ATS
A club is not bound by a league, a club pays to be in a league, a club can come and go from a league. The league just has to accept their application. The CFL have no power over this.


Beg to differ have a look at Regulation 19 of the SACFL regulations.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby fisho mcspaz » Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:45 pm

I've got no idea how much of this is truth and how much is rumour, but if any Hills clubs are wanting in to the SFL, you don't want to do that unless the SFL goes to two divs, as it should have already. If clubs are serious about coming to the SFL, it might be prudent to sound them [SFL committee] out about the two divs, and put some pressure on them to act accordingly. If anyone ever needed a kick up the arse it's the SFL executive committee, and this might be the catalyst for them. Now is a good time to show your hand.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby supercoach » Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:53 pm

Vics01 - has been knows his stuff. Ever thought he is the driver my friend. Clubs can change any time they want. Ask bird wood they will tell you so. Think about it, would mean the Sfl would have a 2 div comp of 10 teams and 12 teams and it would not be necessarily div 1 and 2. Have you worked out who the other teams are yet ? S,A,W,H and R. Pretty easy.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby From The Outer » Sat Sep 08, 2012 7:36 pm

Dont tell me the Barkerwobbles are back!!!
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby old fullback » Sat Sep 08, 2012 7:52 pm

From The Outer wrote:Dont tell me the Barkerwobbles are back!!!

Looks like it,but it could be a loss they needed to have to shake em up.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Whiteline » Sat Sep 08, 2012 8:23 pm

From The Outer wrote:Dont tell me the Barkerwobbles are back!!!


Full credit to Uris. Their second half today was fantastic......just would not lay down.

Back to the drawing board for us and a date with the 'Pies or TV next week.
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