HFL Division 1 (Central)

[Amateur Footy]

Don't forget Onkas also got the HFL Junior Presentation Night. All that after playing a disgusting brand of football this year.

I'm sure a couple of HFL ovals that were previously heavy would now be a treat after fine weather and no games on them for a couple of weeks. The ovals decision used to be made a week before the matches, why not anymore?

And on the permits, I can't believe many think handing out permits is a good thing. Why make the rules if we don't follow them? From experience in my cricket assoc it is almost impossible to get a permit unless a significant injury played a part. It's consistent and everyone knows the rules. Why make our league so subjective? Clear rules and a a consistent approach promotes respect of the systems and faith in the leadership.

[overthehill]

interesting, I thought everyone would react this way last year when Onkas got no finals and Mt barker got 2 but no one seemed to mind. I know some people have a few account on here to back up there own views but interesting all the same.

[rock]

The whole HFL Onkas problem is building steam. Have heard now that upto 5 clubs are discussing the logistics of forming a new league, SHL Southern Hills League.

This is interesting as I thought some had already contacted the SFL. When you think about it though it makes a lot of sense. There's probably 5 or 6 more southern based Hills clubs and 3 or 4 more hills/foothills based SFL clubs. Put this together and you have a 8-10 club comp. It reduces the teams in the SFL which would be a good thing if 2 divs doesn't happen and would reduce the HFL to one division as it's clear they can't maintain a 2 div competition. Food for thought.

[geep8370]

Don't forget Onkas also got the HFL Junior Presentation Night. All that after playing a disgusting brand of football this year.

I'm sure a couple of HFL ovals that were previously heavy would now be a treat after fine weather and no games on them for a couple of weeks. The ovals decision used to be made a week before the matches, why not anymore?

And on the permits, I can't believe many think handing out permits is a good thing. Why make the rules if we don't follow them? From experience in my cricket assoc it is almost impossible to get a permit unless a significant injury played a part. It's consistent and everyone knows the rules. Why make our league so subjective? Clear rules and a a consistent approach promotes respect of the systems and faith in the leadership.

Don't get me started on the points system farce of this year

[Gervais]

Don't get me started on the points system farce of this year

on this issue, any ideas on how many points torrens valley played with on the weekend ?

[little miss nosey]

was a bit nosey myself and as far as i know they played with 16...they actually have quite a few local lads playing this year, a few young ones coming thru the ranks, and not b4 time. i reckon at least 11 or more are local young lads...good to see

[chopper7]

was a bit nosey myself and as far as i know they played with 16...they actually have quite a few local lads playing this year, a few young ones coming thru the ranks, and not b4 time. i reckon at least 11 or more are local young lads...good to see

They played a couple 17s which also acts as minus 1 point.

[little miss nosey]

was a bit nosey myself and as far as i know they played with 16...they actually have quite a few local lads playing this year, a few young ones coming thru the ranks, and not b4 time. i reckon at least 11 or more are local young lads...good to see

They played a couple 17s which also acts as minus 1 point.

na mate only one that i saw...waterman and he is local too

[chopper7]

was a bit nosey myself and as far as i know they played with 16...they actually have quite a few local lads playing this year, a few young ones coming thru the ranks, and not b4 time. i reckon at least 11 or more are local young lads...good to see

They played a couple 17s which also acts as minus 1 point.

na mate only one that i saw...waterman and he is local too

Never actually said he wasn't a local, they would have played him to fit all the imports in.

[Whistle Blower]

Wow! All this hate towards Onkas. Pity no one has raised the point that the Onkaparinga Valley Football Club have not hosted a final in the previous year or two despite it being one of, if not, the best oval in the league.

As Overthehill pointed out, Mt Barker hosted two finals last year on an oval that is considered one of the worst in the league and no one seemed to kick up a stink then. I really don't see the issue. If anyone should feel hard done by it's Lobethal, as they seem to miss out on a regular basis.

And if you really want to look at it, there is only a number of ovals where finals should be played to showcase the best football of the year. The HFL obviously can't have finals football played on the following;

Ironbank: Dud ground, dud facilities, constant sewerage problems in the visitors changerooms, size of a postage stamp. Need I go on? Obviously not suited to finals football.
Bridgewater: Small with terrible facilities. Probably still knee deep in mud from the middle of the year. No good for finals.
Mt Lofty: The slope on this ground is just embarrassing. Probably still covered in mud. No good.

The best football of the year should be played on the best grounds in the league. Simple.

[Justquietly]

Wow! All this hate towards Onkas. Pity no one has raised the point that the Onkaparinga Valley Football Club have not hosted a final in the previous year or two despite it being one of, if not, the best oval in the league.

As Overthehill pointed out, Mt Barker hosted two finals last year on an oval that is considered one of the worst in the league and no one seemed to kick up a stink then. I really don't see the issue. If anyone should feel hard done by it's Lobethal, as they seem to miss out on a regular basis.

And if you really want to look at it, there is only a number of ovals where finals should be played to showcase the best football of the year. The HFL obviously can't have finals football played on the following;

Ironbank: Dud ground, dud facilities, constant sewerage problems in the visitors changerooms, size of a postage stamp. Need I go on? Obviously not suited to finals football.
Bridgewater: Small with terrible facilities. Probably still knee deep in mud from the middle of the year. No good for finals.
Mt Lofty: The slope on this ground is just embarrassing. Probably still covered in mud. No good.

The best football of the year should be played on the best grounds in the league. Simple.

In "the previous year or two"? BOO HOO! Are you kidding? They hosted the devs when they got touched up by Uris in a prelim, year before last. And I'm gonna defend the "embarassing" slope at Lofty. It's there, correct. But in a LOT of games I've played in & watched there, most goals are scored at the higher end. And (granted it's a better oval altogether) Uraidla has a MASSIVE slant towards the changerooms. So...no finals there I assume?
I still say - you finish high on the ladder, you've earned a home final. The GF is then to be played on the best oval.

[the big fella]

Does lobe still have an oval??

[Afterthesiren]

WB is a clown JQ. Nothing like bagging the very clubs that form this league and putting themselves up on pedastals. There is clearly divisions within this league and an us versus them mentality. It's no wonder several clubs are looking at other options.

[Whiteline]

Does lobe still have an oval??

Yes Lobey does.....and a very good oval too. I still believe they have the best oval in the comp. It's big, it's flat, it's grassy. They also have good parking for a million cars especially on that outer wing side, heaps of shelter for spectators on the clubrooms side, and really good bar and canteen facilities. Lobey craps all over our home ground.....thank God our footy team craps over theirs!

[geep8370]

Does lobe still have an oval??

Yes Lobey does.....and a very good oval too. I still believe they have the best oval in the comp. It's big, it's flat, it's grassy. They also have good parking for a million cars especially on that outer wing side, heaps of shelter for spectators on the clubrooms side, and really good bar and canteen facilities. Lobey craps all over our home ground.....thank God our footy team craps over theirs!

Lobey have the prelim final this year and have hosted a couple of grandfinals the years before Hahndorf had their 2. It's a terrific ground to watch football and park heaps cars, they just can't seem to handle the catering part so well.

[Whiteline]

How does Balhannah get a Semi and a Grand Final?? Are there some Onkas people heavily involved with the HFL???

Politics in sport is inescapable and I wouldn't know who's up who at Onkas or the HFL Board, but does it really matter that Onkas gets to host a semi, the GF and the junior medal count too? Onkas might get nothing next year and another club gets to host a few gigs. So be it. I'll be at Balhannah enjoying the footy and they make a mean hot dog too!

[Gervais]

How does Balhannah get a Semi and a Grand Final?? Are there some Onkas people heavily involved with the HFL???

Politics in sport is inescapable and I wouldn't know who's up who at Onkas or the HFL Board, but does it really matter that Onkas gets to host a semi, the GF and the junior medal count too? Onkas might get nothing next year and another club gets to host a few gigs. So be it. I'll be at Balhannah enjoying the footy and they make a mean hot dog too!

here's my two cents on this issue.

i accept that clubs like ironbank and bridgewater will never host finals and that their ovals are too small and their facilities not up to scratch. in terms of the size of their ovals, nothing can ever be done about this given they are hemmed in between roads and other structures (and in bridgewater's case, a creek). unfortunately for both clubs they will never be able to enjoy the financial benefits from hosting a final.

however, why can't ironbank or bridgewater be allocated events such as the junior mail medal count? why not let the clubs with the large impressive ovals have one slice of the financial pie, and let those without have something else?

just a thought.

[field of dreams]

rock - I find it hard to believe you think Guitink/Pfeiffer shouldn't be allowed to play B's in the finals... Guitink played 7 A Grade games in April/May and 1 in August and 7 B Grade games in June/July/August. Pfeiffer hasnt played A's since June 16 and B's since.

I'm not used to the permit system (majority of the last 5 for us) but if your league works on a permit system and they have been granted then so be it. Surely them playing is part of the reason they made finals?

ps Guitink played in the winning B grade GF for Willunga last year.

[Amateur Footy]

Wow! All this hate towards Onkas. Pity no one has raised the point that the Onkaparinga Valley Football Club have not hosted a final in the previous year or two despite it being one of, if not, the best oval in the league.

As Overthehill pointed out, Mt Barker hosted two finals last year on an oval that is considered one of the worst in the league and no one seemed to kick up a stink then. I really don't see the issue. If anyone should feel hard done by it's Lobethal, as they seem to miss out on a regular basis.

And if you really want to look at it, there is only a number of ovals where finals should be played to showcase the best football of the year. The HFL obviously can't have finals football played on the following;

Ironbank: Dud ground, dud facilities, constant sewerage problems in the visitors changerooms, size of a postage stamp. Need I go on? Obviously not suited to finals football.
Bridgewater: Small with terrible facilities. Probably still knee deep in mud from the middle of the year. No good for finals.
Mt Lofty: The slope on this ground is just embarrassing. Probably still covered in mud. No good.

The best football of the year should be played on the best grounds in the league. Simple.

Noone has mentioned IB or Bridgy as it impossible for finals to be played there so don't drag the conversation down to your level. Allocations work on a rotation between years but other clubs can receive finals if allocated ovals are unsuitable or A grade can't play at home. That should happen before clubs receive 2 finals. Blackwood has been assessed as unplayable way too early and the decision should be made much closer to the date of the game.

Barker probably don't need a final to bolster the coffers after their Advertiser findraiser... wonder how much they made and how thay even got the gig for that matter. See attached flyer.

[Jim05]

Regarding the hosting of finals are clubs not allowed to host a GF at differant ground so all clubs get a chance to make money?
Up in the BL&GFL the GF's are on a rotation to all clubs. South's facilities and car parking are not up to scratch according to the league so we never get to hold a final at home so when it came to our turn for the GF it was played at Willaston and we hosted it, our club ran the bars, canteens and bbq's and made quite a decent profit for the day. Gawler Central are in the same boat. Seems to work well