HFL Division 1 (Central)

[Gervais]

So which poor bugger missed out on a game in Blackwoods As to make way for Kym Cobb. And I guess a B grader missed out on a game altogether. Way to create a good culture, what was the end result in the As again???

agree.

b grade and senior colts both win the flag in 2011, but no-one good enough to play before cobb?

is that desperation i smell?

[jumbo20]

Bit of respect due to Kym Cobb a legend of the club,SANFL and Hills Footy who is simply trying to go back and help his club during a development stage.Dont forget he coached the u/17 flag and has only ever had the best of intent for those lads.I would view his playing as him trying to help and nothing else,and I commend the coach for doing it.Lots of clubs would wish for people to do and put up their hand exactly like he has.

[Afterthesiren]

Bit of respect due to Kym Cobb a legend of the club,SANFL and Hills Footy who is simply trying to go back and help his club during a development stage.Dont forget he coached the u/17 flag and has only ever had the best of intent for those lads.I would view his playing as him trying to help and nothing else,and I commend the coach for doing it.Lots of clubs would wish for people to do and put up their hand exactly like he has.

I have to disagree with you here jumbo. As a one off it's not going to have any impact at all. If he was around the playing group on a regular basis as a mentor or assistant coach then it would have huge benefits, but he is not. I'm not sure I see the move as desperation but more of a tall poppy syndrome. There's an elite group at Blackwood and has been for some years now whether they remain on the committee, sponsors or current and ex players they seem to have a big influence on how things are run. These so called 'power people' are only interested in themselves, they aren't interested in the long term betterment of the club. I feel for the bloke who missed out on a kick on Saturday.

[Justquietly]

So uris didn't score a goal in the second half?! Barker easy flag faves but Uris will bounce back, I'd hate to be playing them this week...
As for Balckwood, what a joke. ATS is spot on. It worked like a wet bandaid if the score is anything to go by. With gun colts, play 'em! Forgo what must be some decent coin for some of those big names & get some kids in there. We're seeing Lofty do it. Sure results are poor on the board, but come next year there'll be a bunch of kids that'll know what it takes in A grade, with 15-20 games under their belt. Perhaps Cobb's experience could have been utilized in the huddles/Coaches box, not many clubs have access to his sort of experience.

[ball breaker]

ok we're nearly half way into the year ....

what have been the positive and negatives of the season so far for each team??

is the ladder a reflection on what the likely end result will be?

[Amateur Footy]

ok we're nearly half way into the year ....

what have been the positive and negatives of the season so far for each team??

is the ladder a reflection on what the likely end result will be?

The next 2 rounds will have a big impact on positions 3-6 so hard to say for now. Top 2 and bottom 4 looking set.

Onkas changerooms upgrade are a positive. If they can get all 3 showers working in the visitors rooms they will be perfect!

[OnSong]

IB won by 2 goals against onkas after they led the game all day. Good work boys

nice a while since we won out there i reakcon good work lads !!

I got to watch this match, my first look at Hills FL (Central).

I thought the marking was pretty good despite the wet conditions.

Oval also held up pretty well considering.

Looked like IB were going to canter in after kicking the first three goals of the match with relative ease.

Big man Byerlee (?) had all three and looked unstoppable.

For some reason he was shifted to the ruck and OV managed to work their way back into the match.

OV were playing wide footy in the wet, trying to switch the ball across the oval and work it down the wings.

It wasn't working and IB plugged the gaps well.

I didn't have a budget on me, as they had sold out, so I'll try and quote player numbers for those I didn't know.

IB kept OV at bay with Yeomans (?) particularly effective up forward, scoring some handy goals.

OV made their way back into the game in the third term and looked like a comeback was on the cards but a few early goals to IB in the last sealed the game.

OV got two goals back late, through some nice work by their helmeted forward, who I thought was excellent all day.

Shaun Smith's job on Munn was brilliant, won plenty of footy both in the one on one contests and carried the footy well. His goal before the final siren was also excellent.

OV's number 2 in the midfield was dangerous in bursts, while number 4 for IB (has arms bigger than his legs) was excellent in the midfield.

IMO, OV looks like a great dry weather team but its game style in the first quarter cost them, while IB played basic wet weather footy and got the job done.

OV probably wasted some opportunities in front of goal but full credit to IB, they played the better game style and that's what won them the game IMO.

OV's ruckmen also clearly outjumped Byerlee time and time again, who should have stayed forward and would have probably kicked 6 if left down there.

[Gervais]

Bit of respect due to Kym Cobb a legend of the club,SANFL and Hills Footy who is simply trying to go back and help his club during a development stage.Dont forget he coached the u/17 flag and has only ever had the best of intent for those lads.I would view his playing as him trying to help and nothing else,and I commend the coach for doing it.Lots of clubs would wish for people to do and put up their hand exactly like he has.

i think you're confusing two seperate issues here.

no disrespect is being aimed at kym cobb. i agree he's a bfc club legend (although i think you're overplaying the hyperbole to suggest he's also a sanfl legend).

the bigger issue is that bfc are actually playing him. your b grade is full of names that would play a grade at other clubs. cobb is just slowing down the progress of someone elses development. might as well get gigney,mccormick, etc back as well.

[MONTE CRISTO]

What planet are you guys on? If I was coaching Blackwood and Kym Cobb was available I would definitely play him, as I suggest, would most other HFL coaches. Blackwood are struggling and need all the help they can get. Whoever he replaced wasn't winning them any games. They are in the bottom section of the ladder and so give them some credit for trying to improve their position. And............don't write Uri's off just yet!!

[outsmarts]

Mt Barker judging by the results are the real deal. You wouldn't dare write off any team yet as going into winter depth through injuries and sickness tests club but Mt Barker seem to be maybe an 8 goal better side then their closet rival. They have set the pace for others to follow, just hope for mt barkers sake they don't choke on the big stage again in september.

[jumbo20]

We may see some clubs chasing the ultimate and see some last minute clearances

[Afterthesiren]

We may see some clubs chasing the ultimate and see some last minute clearances

Really, are some clubs getting desperate? Thats the way to handle things, spend big money on players and knock the locals lads back to B grade and in turn C grade and a few miss out on footy altogether. Why not destroy club culture completely. Having seen Mt Lofty play there seems to be a good feeling about the club even though they are winless, things will change for them a little in the second half of the season. Or are you suggesting Lofty is one of these clubs?

[dukes]

We may see some clubs chasing the ultimate and see some last minute clearances

Really, are some clubs getting desperate? Thats the way to handle things, spend big money on players and knock the locals lads back to B grade and in turn C grade and a few miss out on footy altogether. Why not destroy club culture completely. Having seen Mt Lofty play there seems to be a good feeling about the club even though they are winless, things will change for them a little in the second half of the season. Or are you suggesting Lofty is one of these clubs?

The situation lofty found itself in at the start of the season meant that they had to rely on the young kids and senior players who love the club and want to be there , from what I have seen the players enjoy playing together and this will only hold them in good stead for next year !

[Justquietly]

I know Mt Barker flogged uris but I don't think they're an "8 goal better team than their closest rival". I do agree though that they're showing the form that'll have them raising a cup. Some teams like the chase though, & I reckon with uris & Onkas there in September, it'll be a cracking finals.
re Lofty - I took part in Ladies Night as an old fart & can tell you that the culture is good. Gotta keep the young lads there & admittedly GET SOME KEY POSITIONERS that are big.
I see the final 5 as:
Mt Barker
Uraidla
Onkas
Hahndorf
Ironbank

[Gervais]

The situation lofty found itself in at the start of the season meant that they had to rely on the young kids and senior players who love the club and want to be there , from what I have seen the players enjoy playing together and this will only hold them in good stead for next year !

unfortunately for lofty, some of the stronger country clubs are getting increasingly disillusioned with life in country division and will be looking to move to central division if things dont change.

based on current performances, lofty are unlikely to be in central division next year.

[Justquietly]

Gervais, stop trying to stir sh$t up for the sake of it.

[Gervais]

Gervais, stop trying to stir sh$t up for the sake of it.

i'm sorry you think i'm stirring. i can assure you i'm not.

regardless of what structure the hfl implement next year (two divs or three divs), lofty are unlikely to be in central/div 1.

if there's no change to the current structure, i'm aware of two country div clubs who are likely to seek promotion if they make the grand final. the current situation in country division with colts teams makes it untenable.

alternatively, if the hfl go to a three div model in 2013, then two current central clubs will have to fall back. based on current (and likely) ladder positions, lofty is almost certain to be one of these.

i applaud lofty for the way they're trying to rebuild, it's just bad timing.

[dukes]

Gervais, stop trying to stir sh$t up for the sake of it.

i'm sorry you think i'm stirring. i can assure you i'm not.

regardless of what structure the hfl implement next year (two divs or three divs), lofty are unlikely to be in central/div 1.

if there's no change to the current structure, i'm aware of two country div clubs who are likely to seek promotion if they make the grand final. the current situation in country division with colts teams makes it untenable.

alternatively, if the hfl go to a three div model in 2013, then two current central clubs will have to fall back. based on current (and likely) ladder positions, lofty is almost certain to be one of these.

i applaud lofty for the way they're trying to rebuild, it's just bad timing.

I dare say a side who has been a powerhouse such as lofty and is only struggling due to things that are not in their control Would not be punished by the hfl. Only 2 years ago the b grade won a flag the As went all the way to the prelim and the juniors were also very competitive if another club was to be relegated surely it would be based on recent years form, facilities and junior participation.

Who would you suggest would come up from country div gervais ?

[PussInBoots]

Gervais, stop trying to stir sh$t up for the sake of it.

i'm sorry you think i'm stirring. i can assure you i'm not.

regardless of what structure the hfl implement next year (two divs or three divs), lofty are unlikely to be in central/div 1.

if there's no change to the current structure, i'm aware of two country div clubs who are likely to seek promotion if they make the grand final. the current situation in country division with colts teams makes it untenable.

alternatively, if the hfl go to a three div model in 2013, then two current central clubs will have to fall back. based on current (and likely) ladder positions, lofty is almost certain to be one of these.

i applaud lofty for the way they're trying to rebuild, it's just bad timing.

I dare say a side who has been a powerhouse such as lofty and is only struggling due to things that are not in their control Would not be punished by the hfl. Only 2 years ago the b grade won a flag the As went all the way to the prelim and the juniors were also very competitive if another club was to be relegated surely it would be based on recent years form, facilities and junior participation.

Who would you suggest would come up from country div gervais ?

Relegation would be based on this seasons results. Clearly you feel that Mt Lofty are 'above' the punishment of relegation because they were a good team a few years ago when they could afford players. The hfl will not bend the rules for this 'powerhouse' club, if they finish bottom they are up for relegation.
However I still think that it is a joke that TV are in Div 1 over Birdwood...

[Amateur Footy]

Gervais, stop trying to stir sh$t up for the sake of it.

i'm sorry you think i'm stirring. i can assure you i'm not.

regardless of what structure the hfl implement next year (two divs or three divs), lofty are unlikely to be in central/div 1.

if there's no change to the current structure, i'm aware of two country div clubs who are likely to seek promotion if they make the grand final. the current situation in country division with colts teams makes it untenable.

alternatively, if the hfl go to a three div model in 2013, then two current central clubs will have to fall back. based on current (and likely) ladder positions, lofty is almost certain to be one of these.

i applaud lofty for the way they're trying to rebuild, it's just bad timing.

I dare say a side who has been a powerhouse such as lofty and is only struggling due to things that are not in their control Would not be punished by the hfl. Only 2 years ago the b grade won a flag the As went all the way to the prelim and the juniors were also very competitive if another club was to be relegated surely it would be based on recent years form, facilities and junior participation.

Who would you suggest would come up from country div gervais ?

Lofty have been unfinancial for a couple of years, this isn't something new despite what story may have been told. Those premierships were very expensive.

Relegation is based on points from results from A grade to u15 and the need to fill all grades, there is no special treatment for any club.