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Re: Mallee FL

Postby GWW » Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:35 pm

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Big Dog wrote:the problem with karoonda is that the only decent player they have other than simon martin are on the wrong side of 30. Blokes like scotty huchs and hocko, bruce kerr etc will give it away. so i dont think other clubs will pick up to many players if karoonda fold. Alot of the b graders were only playing last year just to help out so they just want play at all


Does that mean that if any Karoonda Players happened to drift south in your direction BD that you would turn them away, and use age as an excuse? I personally think that the likes of Simon Martin and Hocko will travel to Lameroo (so I hear) and the younger ones, THiele's, Boughens etc will go Murray Bridge direction.
On the whole a poor scenario for Mallee Footy. Would be good if the meeing of heirachy (Jackson, Huxtable and RM League officials) that is supposed to take place will encourage Meningie and Tailem Bend to look at our league as a viable option. Obviously more reshuffling will need to be done with the RMFL, but this is where the SANFL should step in, to organise the comps a bit to keep football in these areas sustainable.


The RMFL is trying to increase the amount of clubs not decrease, i think they'd be mightily annoyed if they lost TB or Meningie to the Mallee League. In saying that i think Meningie due to their location would be a more realistic option to join the Mallee league than Tailem.
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Re: Mallee FL

Postby The Gimp » Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:50 pm

GWW wrote:
Dreamer wrote:
Big Dog wrote:the problem with karoonda is that the only decent player they have other than simon martin are on the wrong side of 30. Blokes like scotty huchs and hocko, bruce kerr etc will give it away. so i dont think other clubs will pick up to many players if karoonda fold. Alot of the b graders were only playing last year just to help out so they just want play at all


Does that mean that if any Karoonda Players happened to drift south in your direction BD that you would turn them away, and use age as an excuse? I personally think that the likes of Simon Martin and Hocko will travel to Lameroo (so I hear) and the younger ones, THiele's, Boughens etc will go Murray Bridge direction.
On the whole a poor scenario for Mallee Footy. Would be good if the meeing of heirachy (Jackson, Huxtable and RM League officials) that is supposed to take place will encourage Meningie and Tailem Bend to look at our league as a viable option. Obviously more reshuffling will need to be done with the RMFL, but this is where the SANFL should step in, to organise the comps a bit to keep football in these areas sustainable.


The RMFL is trying to increase the amount of clubs not decrease, i think they'd be mightily annoyed if they lost TB or Meningie to the Mallee League. In saying that i think Meningie due to their location would be a more realistic option to join the Mallee league than Tailem.


Wouldn't Tailem be closer to the majority of the teams than Meningie?

I still don't think either team will leave the RMFL. I would imagine BDT would re-join the RMFL if anything.
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Re: Mallee FL

Postby Brock Landers » Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:56 pm

The Gimp wrote:
GWW wrote:
Dreamer wrote:
Big Dog wrote:the problem with karoonda is that the only decent player they have other than simon martin are on the wrong side of 30. Blokes like scotty huchs and hocko, bruce kerr etc will give it away. so i dont think other clubs will pick up to many players if karoonda fold. Alot of the b graders were only playing last year just to help out so they just want play at all


Does that mean that if any Karoonda Players happened to drift south in your direction BD that you would turn them away, and use age as an excuse? I personally think that the likes of Simon Martin and Hocko will travel to Lameroo (so I hear) and the younger ones, THiele's, Boughens etc will go Murray Bridge direction.
On the whole a poor scenario for Mallee Footy. Would be good if the meeing of heirachy (Jackson, Huxtable and RM League officials) that is supposed to take place will encourage Meningie and Tailem Bend to look at our league as a viable option. Obviously more reshuffling will need to be done with the RMFL, but this is where the SANFL should step in, to organise the comps a bit to keep football in these areas sustainable.


The RMFL is trying to increase the amount of clubs not decrease, i think they'd be mightily annoyed if they lost TB or Meningie to the Mallee League. In saying that i think Meningie due to their location would be a more realistic option to join the Mallee league than Tailem.


Wouldn't Tailem be closer to the majority of the teams than Meningie?

I still don't think either team will leave the RMFL. I would imagine BDT would re-join the RMFL if anything.


What happens to the Mallee league then? That'd be a very selfish move by BDT but then again, it is BDT.
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Re: Mallee FL

Postby GWW » Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:14 pm

You're probably right Gimp, but then again TB is a lot closer to MB, Jervois etc. Meningie also finds it quite difficult to recruit and compete with the other clubs that are closer to Adel, maybe if they changed leagues they could focus even more on recruiting players the other direction.

I got the feeling that the Tintinara connection at BDT didn't want to be a part of the RMFL, I would have thought the only chance they'd rejoin would be if the Mallee league folded altogether.
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Re: Mallee FL

Postby Brock Landers » Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:50 pm

I think it's almost to the point where the SANFL has to liase between the different leagues in the region and come up with a plan where all the leagues in the region are going to be viable for a least the next 30 years and all geographical areas are covered so anyone who wants to can get a game whilst trying to keep travelling down as much as possible. Whether one league has to fold for this to happen is cause for debate, but it's time to start planning for this possibility.

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Re: Mallee FL

Postby Flying Ant » Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:40 pm

Brock Landers wrote:I think it's almost to the point where the SANFL has to liase between the different leagues in the region and come up with a plan where all the leagues in the region are going to be viable for a least the next 30 years and all geographical areas are covered so anyone who wants to can get a game whilst trying to keep travelling down as much as possible. Whether one league has to fold for this to happen is cause for debate, but it's time to start planning for this possibility.

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30 years... the rate things are going it will be a totally different ball game by then... we will be playing footy on hover boards! :lol:
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Re: Mallee FL

Postby Brock Landers » Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:50 pm

Flying Ant wrote:
Brock Landers wrote:I think it's almost to the point where the SANFL has to liase between the different leagues in the region and come up with a plan where all the leagues in the region are going to be viable for a least the next 30 years and all geographical areas are covered so anyone who wants to can get a game whilst trying to keep travelling down as much as possible. Whether one league has to fold for this to happen is cause for debate, but it's time to start planning for this possibility.

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30 years... the rate things are going it will be a totally different ball game by then... we will be playing footy on hover boards! :lol:


That's why you're a thinking man Antman!! I didn't even factor in the possibility of hoverboards in my 2 cents!! :lol:
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Re: Mallee FL

Postby KS41 » Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:08 pm

I think it's almost to the point where the SANFL has to liase between the different leagues in the region and come up with a plan where all the leagues in the region are going to be viable for a least the next 30 years and all geographical areas are covered so anyone who wants to can get a game whilst trying to keep travelling down as much as possible. Whether one league has to fold for this to happen is cause for debate, but it's time to start planning for this possibility.


I agree, there are a number of leagues in and around this area and surely it's a matter of re-shuffling some sides and leagues around. Some one even said some time back that the Mid Murray League were looking a bit average as well. There is not a great deal of distance between the Mallee, Rmfl, Riverland Independants and the Mid Murray (bar Robertstown), is this an option??
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Re: Mallee FL

Postby LaughingKookaburra » Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:11 pm

KS41 wrote:
I think it's almost to the point where the SANFL has to liase between the different leagues in the region and come up with a plan where all the leagues in the region are going to be viable for a least the next 30 years and all geographical areas are covered so anyone who wants to can get a game whilst trying to keep travelling down as much as possible. Whether one league has to fold for this to happen is cause for debate, but it's time to start planning for this possibility.


I agree, there are a number of leagues in and around this area and surely it's a matter of re-shuffling some sides and leagues around. Some one even said some time back that the Mid Murray League were looking a bit average as well. There is not a great deal of distance between the Mallee, Rmfl, Riverland Independants and the Mid Murray (bar Robertstown), is this an option??

Indipendants would re unrealistic surely.Would be closer for Paringa and Lyrup to go play in the Sunraysia div.2 comp surely (Im not 100% certain on that).I mean i know my family in Lyrup complain on going to east Murray let alone travelling to Lameroo ect.
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Re: Mallee FL

Postby Dreamer » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:18 pm

LaughingKookaburra wrote:
KS41 wrote:
I think it's almost to the point where the SANFL has to liase between the different leagues in the region and come up with a plan where all the leagues in the region are going to be viable for a least the next 30 years and all geographical areas are covered so anyone who wants to can get a game whilst trying to keep travelling down as much as possible. Whether one league has to fold for this to happen is cause for debate, but it's time to start planning for this possibility.


I agree, there are a number of leagues in and around this area and surely it's a matter of re-shuffling some sides and leagues around. Some one even said some time back that the Mid Murray League were looking a bit average as well. There is not a great deal of distance between the Mallee, Rmfl, Riverland Independants and the Mid Murray (bar Robertstown), is this an option??

Indipendants would re unrealistic surely.Would be closer for Paringa and Lyrup to go play in the Sunraysia div.2 comp surely (Im not 100% certain on that).I mean i know my family in Lyrup complain on going to east Murray let alone travelling to Lameroo ect.


I think you blokes should seriously have a look at your atlas. I agree with the reshuffling of leagues, but if you are seriously talking about some of the mallee sides on the eastern end of the league. eg Pinnaroo and Murrayville driving to Blanchetown, etc. that is more ridiculous than joining the RMFL :roll: . The sides at that end would be better off heading up the Riverland and joing the RFL. Lameroo could swing one way or the other, but some serious rethinking needs to happen through the SANFL.
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Re: Mallee FL

Postby GWW » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:24 pm

Was reading the local Murray Bridge newspaper, the Standard, there was an article in there about the Karoonda situation. The 2 scenarios mentioned in the article were either a merger with Peake or Tailem Bend.
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Re: Mallee FL

Postby LaughingKookaburra » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:33 pm

I honestly would have thought (from a person who has not seen a game mind you) a league with 6 teams was un-reasonable in the first place.I take it that it's top 4 finals,obviously it is viable as it has survived a fair time........
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Re: Mallee FL

Postby Dreamer » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:39 pm

Very Viable. It is unfortunate that the team(Karoonda) possibly in the best position (closest to big towns) would have found it easier to maintain a side. The locals are very loyal to each of the clubs. The fact that the netball follows the football, make it a great family day. We have had our fair share of success with individual players going ot higher levels AND RETURNING to the league, as well as at association level against the Riverland. Would be a shame to see the Mallee League have to change its structure and form, but it is looking more and more probable.
I the last ten years the competition has only become stronger and more competitive, unfortunately it may have run its course. Only time will tell.
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Re: Mallee FL

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Re: Mallee FL

Postby Way Down South » Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:16 pm

A lot of people travel to be involved with the MFL, from Adelaide, Murray Bridge and out East from the other side of Murrayville etc. So would the travel be that big of an issue if the whole league came closer to the West and join the RMFL and renamed the league the Murray Mallee League? Just a thought?
Another thought, Karoonda / Peake and Meningie merge, the SANFL liase with the government for a grant to develop Peake's facilities and this merged club (Karoonda / Peake and Meningie) would be based there. Then the remaining four clubs would join the league in there own right, this league would then becoume a strong 10 team comp.
Along with this the recruiting possibilities for the clubs further East would be greater as the whole league is closer to Adelaide and you would think in a short period of time the standard would improve on what is already a good standard in both leagues.
I'm sure Karoonda would be willing to give up some of their individual identity to keep football alive in their area.
I think everyone would agree whether you play for a club or against them, love em' or hate em' no one wants to see a club close their doors and watch years of history and memories fade away to nothing, and as important the entire league!
I hope ego's and pride are put aside to come up with a solution that is best for football, current and future players, leagues involved and just as important, the supporters who stick by during these times! :wink:
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Re: Mallee FL

Postby Dogwatcher » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:10 am

This is some scary debate.
Once you close doors on a club, that's it.
There's no coming back.
Think carefully before you advocate the merging of clubs and competitions.
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Re: Mallee FL

Postby Big Dog » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:24 am

the mail i got last night about karoonda is that they are very close to doing a merger deal with Tailem Bend. They have offered karoonda there name printed on the back of their footy jumpers and three home games at karoonda but they will be stilled be called Tailem Bend.
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Re: Mallee FL

Postby malleebull » Sat Feb 16, 2008 1:03 pm

and which league will they play in????
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Re: Mallee FL

Postby HILLS_haveEYES » Sat Feb 16, 2008 2:43 pm

is justin bailey playing this year for murrayville?
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Re: Mallee FL

Postby Way Down South » Sat Feb 16, 2008 3:54 pm

Dogwatcher wrote:This is some scary debate.
Once you close doors on a club, that's it.
There's no coming back.
Think carefully before you advocate the merging of clubs and competitions.


Your right it is a situation you would rather not be debating, but it is happening and it will take a open minded thought process to come up with the correct decision. You said that once you close the doors there's no coming back, your dead right, I have yet to see a club close it's doors and come back down the track, but as I said I am sure Karoonda would rather lose some of there individual identity, than lose it all together. I am sure Fitzroy supporters are grateful to have some identity remaining than none at all, and would Fitzroy have had the success that the Brisbane / Fitzroy Lions have had as a stand alone identity!
Most definitely Karoonda should do everything possible to stay alive in its own right, by looking at the next 5 years (Juniors coming through, employment in the area, Recruiting etc.) but also they should not delay the inevitable if it has no short term future, then it can put all it energies into building a new future. My personal opinion is I hope they stay alive, along with the MFL, the region is full of great players and people, but I would say that if you asked every player if they would rather play in a strong 10 team comp, with a more "travel friendly" location, I think the answer would be pretty obvious.
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