GSFL Movements

[LuvsFooty]

The issue of players moving clubs brings up plenty of good points, bad points and certainly many issues. If everybody stayed put it would be ideal and would certainly put less stress on clubs at this time of year. As for players playing for rival clubs within their own league, I can think of 3 guys at other GSFL clubs who are former juniors who I would love to see in black and white. Rob McCard (mail medalist), Dave Carnevale (premiership captain) and Chris Jurek (ex league player). Unforunately for us, they dont, but thats bad luck

1. Why are Burdett and Harvey not signed already at their repective clubs? There would have to be factors that have made them consider leaving?

2. Baysrule posted on here on the 20/10/2011 about the "ethics of poaching". Who were you referring to? If is was Harvey then you knew what was happening.

3. In regards to Bays having a right of reply, Harvey signed on the 30th of October, that gave you 10 days from the above date, at least, to work things out

4. Zac Ewer was called on "several" occasions "during" the course of season 2009 by Encounter Bay. We certaiinly made no contact with Arren while the season was still underway. As a side note, Tom Fergusson gets a phone call from Bays on an annual basis so I feel we went about it in the best way possible

5. Harvey had previously spoken to the Bays (perhaps not the president) but had talked to recruting staff and the coach. If Harvey was in my club, from the day we finished the previous season I'd go as far as wiping his arse until I locked him in to a CFB contract

6. The money quoted earlier is incorrect. It certainly and obviously is a major factor but his friendship with Zac played a major part in the decision

7. We arent building a team based on Harvey but feel he will be a major factor in our struggling forward line

8. Its done and dusted now so move on. We currently have 2 players from 2011 that are not contracted as yet and we know as well as anyone that they are open slather as are all uncontracted players statewide. If Bay posters want to discuss further send a PM or give me a call

[LuvsFooty]

With an allocation of 17 points for 2011 and an actual of 16 av used for the year how do Goolwa fit in these recruits??

Everybody drops 1 point, of the 3 new players signed only Harvey attracts points and we always have the -1 senior colt option which we havent used before.

[ball breaker]

The issue of players moving clubs brings up plenty of good points, bad points and certainly many issues. If everybody stayed put it would be ideal and would certainly put less stress on clubs at this time of year. As for players playing for rival clubs within their own league, I can think of 3 guys at other GSFL clubs who are former juniors who I would love to see in black and white. Rob McCard (mail medalist), Dave Carnevale (premiership captain) and Chris Jurek (ex league player). Unforunately for us, they dont, but thats bad luck

1. Why are Burdett and Harvey not signed already at their repective clubs? There would have to be factors that have made them consider leaving?

2. Baysrule posted on here on the 20/10/2011 about the "ethics of poaching". Who were you referring to? If is was Harvey then you knew what was happening.

3. In regards to Bays having a right of reply, Harvey signed on the 30th of October, that gave you 10 days from the above date, at least, to work things out

4. Zac Ewer was called on "several" occasions "during" the course of season 2009 by Encounter Bay. We certaiinly made no contact with Arren while the season was still underway. As a side note, Tom Fergusson gets a phone call from Bays on an annual basis so I feel we went about it in the best way possible

5. Harvey had previously spoken to the Bays (perhaps not the president) but had talked to recruting staff and the coach. If Harvey was in my club, from the day we finished the previous season I'd go as far as wiping his arse until I locked him in to a CFB contract

6. The money quoted earlier is incorrect. It certainly and obviously is a major factor but his friendship with Zac played a major part in the decision

7. We arent building a team based on Harvey but feel he will be a major factor in our struggling forward line

8. Its done and dusted now so move on. We currently have 2 players from 2011 that are not contracted as yet and we know as well as anyone that they are open slather as are all uncontracted players statewide. If Bay posters want to discuss further send a PM or give me a call

GOOD CALL .... funny how pot calls the kettle black some times!

Like Hutchi and Karo Wilson i'm over it ! .... anything else to talk about ? other players or coaches coming into the league?

[BAYSRULE]

The issue of players moving clubs brings up plenty of good points, bad points and certainly many issues. If everybody stayed put it would be ideal and would certainly put less stress on clubs at this time of year. As for players playing for rival clubs within their own league, I can think of 3 guys at other GSFL clubs who are former juniors who I would love to see in black and white. Rob McCard (mail medalist), Dave Carnevale (premiership captain) and Chris Jurek (ex league player). Unforunately for us, they dont, but thats bad luck

1. Why are Burdett and Harvey not signed already at their repective clubs? There would have to be factors that have made them consider leaving?

2. Baysrule posted on here on the 20/10/2011 about the "ethics of poaching". Who were you referring to? If is was Harvey then you knew what was happening.

3. In regards to Bays having a right of reply, Harvey signed on the 30th of October, that gave you 10 days from the above date, at least, to work things out

4. Zac Ewer was called on "several" occasions "during" the course of season 2009 by Encounter Bay. We certaiinly made no contact with Arren while the season was still underway. As a side note, Tom Fergusson gets a phone call from Bays on an annual basis so I feel we went about it in the best way possible

5. Harvey had previously spoken to the Bays (perhaps not the president) but had talked to recruting staff and the coach. If Harvey was in my club, from the day we finished the previous season I'd go as far as wiping his arse until I locked him in to a CFB contract

6. The money quoted earlier is incorrect. It certainly and obviously is a major factor but his friendship with Zac played a major part in the decision

7. We arent building a team based on Harvey but feel he will be a major factor in our struggling forward line

8. Its done and dusted now so move on. We currently have 2 players from 2011 that are not contracted as yet and we know as well as anyone that they are open slather as are all uncontracted players statewide. If Bay posters want to discuss further send a PM or give me a call

GOOD CALL .... funny how pot calls the kettle black some times!

Like Hutchi and Karo Wilson i'm over it ! .... anything else to talk about ? other players or coaches coming into the league?

Would love to know who it was calling Zac from the BAy.. Certainly no one of note... onward and upward and see you in April some time... OH and I would think he is still contracted to the Bay until the end of the year.. Isnt that how contracts work..

[Richard Chee Quee]

from my point of view, as a bay person on the harvey thing. yeah it sucks hes left coz hes a good player and good bloke to have around your club. but it happens and we need to move on. but looking at it realistically, if they offered more cash he'd be silly not to take it with two young kids, mortgage etc. some people live breathe eat footy as a way of life, some play for cash so they can have a more comfortable lifestyle and do things they might not be able to without the money from footy, others play for nothing but the reward of playing with their mates. we all do it for different reasons and from year to year those reasons may change, its up to the individual to get out of it what they want to get out of it.

[LuvsFooty]

answers:

Shane Mitchell (senior coach at the time)

and

no. contracts (just under where you note the date the contract is entered in to) is the space that allocates the "SEASON / S" for which the contract is for. So is a season based document not run on the calendar year.

[Richard Chee Quee]

LF, dont worry, ill make sure ferg keeps getting those clearance forms in his toolbox, diary and pidgeon hole at work. im sure one day he'll get sick of it and sign one!!!

[LuvsFooty]

LF, dont worry, ill make sure ferg keeps getting those clearance forms in his toolbox, diary and pidgeon hole at work. im sure one day he'll get sick of it and sign one!!!

Keep having a go, now that he has a home loan you are every chance. Hopefully you blokes next year, after the heat of battle can still say a hello and have a beer with Harves. Maybe its time I gave Brad Yeomans a call and buried that hatchet. Havent spoken to him since 2009.

[field of dreams]

Thanks for the detailed Goolwa perspective LF.

1. Why are Burdett and Harvey not signed already at their respective clubs? There would have to be factors that have made them consider leaving?

Whilst I don’t like players moving in the league either (moreso homegrown players) it happens and all clubs can do is look after their players as best they can. One wonders if Bays were too busy romancing ex-afl players for big $ for a handful of games this year and dropped the ball onlooking after the real keys. Similar thing happened with Prest last year IIRC.

2. Baysrule posted on here on the 20/10/2011 about the "ethics of poaching". Who were you referring to? If is was Harvey then you knew what was happening.

3. In regards to Bays having a right of reply, Harvey signed on the 30th of October, that gave you 10 days from the above date, at least, to work things out

I thought the same thing – I certainly thought he was talking about Harvey at the time, or was it yet another? Baysrule?

[field of dreams]

anything else to talk about ?

Does anyone know what the points allocation will be for 2012? This year it was:

The Top Three Teams will be allocated a total of 13 points.
The Middle Four Teams will be allocated a total of 15 points.
The Bottom Three Teams will be allocated a total of 17 points.

But wasnt that with an extra 2 each due to the SAAFL not getting on-board with the points system in time?

So is it 11, 13, 15 or 13, 15, 17 again?

[BAYSRULE]

answers:

Shane Mitchell (senior coach at the time)

and

no. contracts (just under where you note the date the contract is entered in to) is the space that allocates the "SEASON / S" for which the contract is for. So is a season based document not run on the calendar year.

Shane hasnt been at the bay for 2 years.. Thanks for the info.. Not sure tho.. might wanna check the rule book..

[Fair Play]

Some great reading and god points from all.

For the record I think inter league poaching is a waste of time talking about, if a player wants to go elsewhere they will. I know of players being signed to another club in a different league then back to another club in the same league so realistically trying to avoid it is just wasting time.

You can Put all your energy into securing and building relationships and a good environment for players but the facts are you never know who they know or how well and exactly what their thinking until they decide themselves. Obviously Harves had his own decisions so move on E bay move on. I do think harvey is a great player and am interested to see how he goes I think he plays better when people get stuck into him so think the new showdown will be god to watch.

Willunga great recruiting again but what about Rob McCard as mentioned earlier, I heard he was kicked out of the footy club for incidents that happened after the grand final last year, adding fuel to the fire from several other incidents throughout his couple of years at the Demons???? Anything Demon lads? I also know a good friend from Marion who said he was giving the ass not left from their for the exact same thing with him and his missus causing to much trouble from within. So maybe all is not rosey there I know for a fact Willunga play all cool and calm but I know of several others who would love to play against him at a rival GSFL club

[BJ Ernest]

Before the rumour mill sparks up I'll throw in a comment re Rob Mccard.

He gave the club 2 great years of service and obviously was a huge part of our clubs B grade success and put pressure on the spots in the A grade. He won 2 best and fairests in the B grade and the Reserves Mail Medal this season.

The events of Grand Final night were alcohol fuelled and we can all be idiots when we get on the cans. What happened doesnt matter as we all have incidents from time to time. He wont be playing at the club next season but we wish him the best of luck wherever he plays.

[Panther32]

Before the rumour mill sparks up I'll throw in a comment re Rob Mccard.

He gave the club 2 great years of service and obviously was a huge part of our clubs B grade success and put pressure on the spots in the A grade. He won 2 best and fairests in the B grade and the Reserves Mail Medal this season.

The events of Grand Final night were alcohol fuelled and we can all be idiots when we get on the cans. What happened doesnt matter as we all have incidents from time to time. He wont be playing at the club next season but we wish him the best of luck wherever he plays.

Typical Politician response....dances around the question!
Vote one For BJ for Willunga Mayor!!!

[Panther32]

so

burdett to willunga?
hill to strath?
harvey to goolwa?

any true signings or just talk

Have also heard of Greenbank to Kaniva Leor and potentially Yank losing Pratt and Wilson and Hodge signing somewhere in the KNFTL maybe Keith or Kaniva.

Hodge signed sealed delivered at VICTOR... Greenbank $inged $ealed Delivered at Kaniva.... Pratt in darwin debating move with wilson too KNTFL

What about Farrier to Keith with Bradshaw and that young ruckman...what was his name again...don't rate him anyway!

[Black Duck]

Definitions:

inter-league = from an external league ie RMFL, HFL, SFL

intra-league = from the league internally in our case GSFL

[schimma]

Is Carl Mickan still running around for Goolwa this year. and for Encounter Bay is Chris Gein going around again?

[The Little Master]

answers:

Shane Mitchell (senior coach at the time)

and

no. contracts (just under where you note the date the contract is entered in to) is the space that allocates the "SEASON / S" for which the contract is for. So is a season based document not run on the calendar year.

Shane hasnt been at the bay for 2 years.. Thanks for the info.. Not sure tho.. might wanna check the rule book..

are you the full quid? LF said mitchell called zac mid year in 2009. was he not coach then?

[neverwas neverwillbe]

answers:

Shane Mitchell (senior coach at the time)

and

no. contracts (just under where you note the date the contract is entered in to) is the space that allocates the "SEASON / S" for which the contract is for. So is a season based document not run on the calendar year.

Shane hasnt been at the bay for 2 years.. Thanks for the info.. Not sure tho.. might wanna check the rule book..

are you the full quid? LF said mitchell called zac mid year in 2009. was he not coach then?

My calculations would make that 2 years

[words of wisdom]

Heres a yell out on my previous comment to the GSFL.. Head Honchol.. YOU need to do something about this crap so it stops happening.. Need to make a rule that inter legue poaching should not be allowed.. 5 POINT PLAYERS TRANSFERRING TO A CLUB IN THEIR OWN LEAGUE WILL STOP ALL THIS CRAP..

Disagree. Players aren't property. You just need to recruit the right person/player that is at your club for the right reason and create a place they dont want to leave. Not too many players change clubs within our league for $$$, majority change for opputunity.
There is a point these days where you cant expect players to remain loyal. If you were 24 - 25yrs old and got offered $500 to play footy, you cant blame them for leaving.