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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby LuvsFooty » Tue May 03, 2011 11:12 pm

Snap Kick Ninja wrote:Surely Yank would have to be new favourites for the flag with their newest gun signing, Scott Borlace


sensational player and a 0 pointer too by the looks of it (unless the web site has not been updated). Is he a former junior?
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby Snap Kick Ninja » Wed May 04, 2011 11:37 am

LuvsFooty wrote:
Snap Kick Ninja wrote:Surely Yank would have to be new favourites for the flag with their newest gun signing, Scott Borlace


sensational player and a 0 pointer too by the looks of it (unless the web site has not been updated). Is he a former junior?


Not sure how he is zero points, there are local borlaces down there but i dont think theres a relation
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby GWW » Wed May 04, 2011 12:05 pm

He may be minimal points if he hasn't played for a few years. I think he's been the runner for Port Adelaide the last few years so may not have played for 2 years, so that could make him a 2 or 1 pointer maybe..
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby LuvsFooty » Wed May 04, 2011 12:20 pm

GWW wrote:He may be minimal points if he hasn't played for a few years. I think he's been the runner for Port Adelaide the last few years so may not have played for 2 years, so that could make him a 2 or 1 pointer maybe..


Played a league game in round 22, 2009 making him a 4 pointer, but nothing in 2010 so would be 3 points. Borlace is a Yank sounding name so he must have played juniors there
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby field of dreams » Wed May 04, 2011 1:32 pm

According to sportingpulse he played 4 reserves games and 1 league game in 2009 (ie majority of reserves), so that would make him a 3 pointer in 2010 and 2 pointer in 2011.

That would mean Yank have put 14 points on the field the last 2 weeks (unless they are playing someone still eligible for colts), when they can only play 13.

Maybe he did play colts there but I dont think so. The points list says it is up to date at 29/4 but there are other errors on there that I can see (players listed that have been cleared to other leagues).

Can anyone set us straight?

Earlier talk was Lohde and Macfarlane were returning - dont see how they can fit them all in with players carrying another 5 points having played this year but missing on saturday.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby Bat Pad » Wed May 04, 2011 1:39 pm

LuvsFooty wrote:
GWW wrote:He may be minimal points if he hasn't played for a few years. I think he's been the runner for Port Adelaide the last few years so may not have played for 2 years, so that could make him a 2 or 1 pointer maybe..


Played a league game in round 22, 2009 making him a 4 pointer, but nothing in 2010 so would be 3 points. Borlace is a Yank sounding name so he must have played juniors there


Hopefully he can stay fully fit, with the better part of 2 years off that will help. Was pretty broken down at the end of his career at the legs I believe. To be honest I am a bit surprised he is playing.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby GWW » Wed May 04, 2011 1:40 pm

LuvsFooty wrote:Played a league game in round 22, 2009 making him a 4 pointer, but nothing in 2010 so would be 3 points. Borlace is a Yank sounding name so he must have played juniors there


I'm not certain of this, but I think they have to play a certain amount of games in a particular season for the points to kick in ie. if only 1 game played, it may mean he'd only be 2 points in this situation.

Someone may be able to confirm this.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby pigskin » Wed May 04, 2011 2:00 pm

If a player has not played in 2 years he is an automatic zero pointer regardless of previous allocation.

Huge discrepancies with this: Example- AFL player sits out for 2 years, he is zero points instead of the what should be 3

Local A Grader (even if they played a minority of games in the Reserves their last year eg 11 A's 7 Reserves or something similar) sits out for 2 years he is zero points.

They also have to played the required amount of games to qualify as having played in a season, which correct me if I'm wrong is 5
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby GWW » Wed May 04, 2011 2:03 pm

pigskin wrote:Huge discrepancies with this: Example- AFL player sits out for 2 years, he is zero points instead of the what should be 3


Isn't an AFL player 5 points? SANFL player 4, SANFL Reseves 3..
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby pigskin » Wed May 04, 2011 2:08 pm

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pigskin wrote:Huge discrepancies with this: Example- AFL player sits out for 2 years, he is zero points instead of the what should be 3


Isn't an AFL player 5 points? SANFL player 4, SANFL Reseves 3..

Yes! This is my point mate. Regardless of previous points allocation of final year of playing, if a player chooses to sit out for a full 2 years, they become zero points. If they keep playing at lower levels they secure themselves that leagues allocation or higher if their reduction of 1 point per year is still above the leagues allocation. 99% sure this is true & correct!

This is something the CFB needs to look at quickly, as its a huge gap between an AFL listed player 2 years ago & a local bloke having a kick in the country, but happens to move due to work or the like
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby GWW » Wed May 04, 2011 2:11 pm

Oh ok, i didn't realise that. I presumed they just lost 1 point a season, but thinking about it more, I think what you've written does sound about right.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby pigskin » Wed May 04, 2011 2:15 pm

Here to help ;) :lol:
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby LuvsFooty » Wed May 04, 2011 2:29 pm

FOD is on it.

2009 - 1 league, 4 reserves = 3 points (majority in reserves which is a category 1 league)
2010 - didnt play = deduct 1
2011 - 2 pointer (except if he is a former junior or has played 25 senior matches previously for Yank)
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby field of dreams » Wed May 04, 2011 2:34 pm

Thanks for your help pigskin.

D. Deductions and Concessions – General

If a player has not played football at any level for 24 months or more before resuming as a player he will automatically have a Player Points Rating of zero (0).


From http://www.sportingpulse.com/assoc_page ... sID=163944


It still seems he should be 2 points as he has only missed 1 season. Then again Yank have been very good at finding the little cracks (ie Warmington, Durdin and Perry all playing as zero pointers) so maybe not.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby LuvsFooty » Wed May 04, 2011 2:49 pm

So techically you could play early in 2009 and late in 2011 and be a 0 pointer, provided it was a 24 month period between matches? Should get on to Michael Barlow, he will be a 0 pointer on the 4th of July 2012.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby pigskin » Wed May 04, 2011 3:05 pm

This is what I've been explaining LF :roll:
Needs to be addressed quickly! Andrew Mcleod anyone!!!! 2013 zero points

And as the rule stands, its 24 months between seasons, not matches, just to clarify, so technically you could play 4 games every year & have a zero allocation after 2 years anyway. I'm certain the ruling is 5 games because that is the amount of games need to qualify for finals matches!!!!!!!!! ;)
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby Mythical Creature » Wed May 04, 2011 3:14 pm

pigskin wrote:This is what I've been explaining LF :roll:
Needs to be addressed quickly! Andrew Mcleod anyone!!!! 2013 zero points

And as the rule stands, its 24 months between seasons, not matches, just to clarify, so technically you could play 4 games every year & have a zero allocation after 2 years anyway. I'm certain the ruling is 5 games because that is the amount of games need to qualify for finals matches!!!!!!!!! ;)


Pretty sure the ruling is MAJORITY of matches. I can't find anywhere anything about 5 games. When I spoke to Glenn Rosser about this his answer was definately on where majority of games where played. IE: 4 A Grade and 5 B Grade games would be a 0 pointer as majority of games in B Grade. 1 A Grade game and 0 B Grade games is whatever points category the league is in.

And on McLeod since he is playing in Darwin, he still gets points allocated. Any league that is not classified into categories, players are allocated 2 points if they have played the majority in the A Grade.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby LuvsFooty » Wed May 04, 2011 3:18 pm

I dont think 5 games comes in to it anywhere. But it does state 'a majority of matches'. So Borlace, as an example only played 5 matches in 2009. There are 22 or 23 rounds in the SANFL so he would have had to have played 11+ to get a majority. Does that mean that players who have played less that half of its clubs matches in the previous year are 0?

"A player who has played a majority of matches for the Senior team of a Club or Clubs in a Category One or Two League in their previous playing season"
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby pigskin » Wed May 04, 2011 3:29 pm

You have all missed my point re the 5 games statement! I mean:

To be elligable to play finals in most leagues you have had to play a minimum of 5 games for the club!!!

This is now the same requirement to ATTRACT points from said leagues allocation if that is all you play.

Examples: 1,Chris Massie has to play 5 OR MORE games to be elligable for finals this year. If he does not, he cant play

2, Chris Massie if for 2 years in a row only plays 4 or less matches for the season, his 3rd year becomes an auto zero pointer

This is my understanding of the rule, & am quietly confident its true & correct
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby pigskin » Wed May 04, 2011 3:35 pm

Mythical Creature wrote:
pigskin wrote:This is what I've been explaining LF :roll:
Needs to be addressed quickly! Andrew Mcleod anyone!!!! 2013 zero points

And as the rule stands, its 24 months between seasons, not matches, just to clarify, so technically you could play 4 games every year & have a zero allocation after 2 years anyway. I'm certain the ruling is 5 games because that is the amount of games need to qualify for finals matches!!!!!!!!! ;)


Pretty sure the ruling is MAJORITY of matches. I can't find anywhere anything about 5 games. When I spoke to Glenn Rosser about this his answer was definately on where majority of games where played. IE: 4 A Grade and 5 B Grade games would be a 0 pointer as majority of games in B Grade. 1 A Grade game and 0 B Grade games is whatever points category the league is in.

And on McLeod since he is playing in Darwin, he still gets points allocated. Any league that is not classified into categories, players are allocated 2 points if they have played the majority in the A Grade.

Was un aware of this ;) Try Tyson Edwards then. You get my point tho????
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