Barossa / Light League

[skipper]

JD, very disappointing effort from "our' team on sat. playing for a spot in the 4 and that sort of effort was put up by the players. imho, only one player put up his hand to have a real go for 4 qtrs [#18 ]. one or two others did a little bit each qrt but all others did not seem to want it enough. SJ and supporters must be let down by lack of spirit shown. hope this was just a bad day and 'we' can get back on track next week and still have a crack at the 4

Old Moz it maybe very hard for Ango to make the 4 now. When you look at their draw, Will, Tan, Freel, Bye & Sth, you would consider this a very tough run home, especially with Tanunda and the Bye. 3 games are winnable and would put pressure on south & willaston but it is looking tough. It doesn't really matter anyway, it looks as though the top 2 sides are streaks ahead of all below them and 3rd and 4th will just be making up the numbers and just be delaying their mad monday's by a week or two.

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[skipper]

JD, very disappointing effort from "our' team on sat. playing for a spot in the 4 and that sort of effort was put up by the players. imho, only one player put up his hand to have a real go for 4 qtrs [#18 ]. one or two others did a little bit each qrt but all others did not seem to want it enough. SJ and supporters must be let down by lack of spirit shown. hope this was just a bad day and 'we' can get back on track next week and still have a crack at the 4

Old Moz it maybe very hard for Ango to make the 4 now. When you look at their draw, Will, Tan, Freel, Bye & Sth, you would consider this a very tough run home, especially with Tanunda and the Bye. 3 games are winnable and would put pressure on south & willaston but it is looking tough. It doesn't really matter anyway, it looks as though the top 2 sides are streaks ahead of all below them and 3rd and 4th will just be making up the numbers and just be delaying their mad monday's by a week or two.

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[james07]

Hear what you are saying Duke about building a team with locals but unfortantely the BLG has made a rod for their own back over the past 3 years and all sides are forced to import some quality talent to try and win. I know some won't agree but I look at the blockie list and they have really imported 3 or 4 good players and have a lot of young local lads starting to peak and some of the older ones come back (Kieboom & Baird). Kapunda did a similar thing for their 2 flags but then Freeling and Barossa just took it to another level and really have a bit to answer for. Whats the go with Leal is going to continue on for the rest of the season or is he going to walk?, he should walk after what they did to him. I haven't been the biggest Leal fan but he deserved better and from what I hear the committee has coped a massive bomb from a lot of Freeling supporters, perhaps its time for some of them to go, time might be up Mal (Mal is actually a bloody good bloke).

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intersting that you state barossa have a huge amounts of imports, have a look at their list and youll find alot of those lads are either players returning to bd or locals from the area 4 to five imports thats it. JD you could support this as you are in the know at bd

[John Doe]

Hear what you are saying Duke about building a team with locals but unfortantely the BLG has made a rod for their own back over the past 3 years and all sides are forced to import some quality talent to try and win. I know some won't agree but I look at the blockie list and they have really imported 3 or 4 good players and have a lot of young local lads starting to peak and some of the older ones come back (Kieboom & Baird). Kapunda did a similar thing for their 2 flags but then Freeling and Barossa just took it to another level and really have a bit to answer for. Whats the go with Leal is going to continue on for the rest of the season or is he going to walk?, he should walk after what they did to him. I haven't been the biggest Leal fan but he deserved better and from what I hear the committee has coped a massive bomb from a lot of Freeling supporters, perhaps its time for some of them to go, time might be up Mal (Mal is actually a bloody good bloke).

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intersting that you state barossa have a huge amounts of imports, have a look at their list and youll find alot of those lads are either players returning to bd or locals from the area 4 to five imports thats it. JD you could support this as you are in the know at bd

Hi James, anyone who examines Barossa's list thoroughly can see they only have a hanful of imports currently but skipper is reffering to the last few years which have seen freeling go tits up & barossa have been fortunate in that the guys they brought in were young & the type to stay at a club long term, big difference between having to cut your excess imports & having an import exodus

[John Doe]

ie; Ross Christie (great defender), Brad James (great value foe the netballers), Daniel Thomas (should be working for NASA) and Aaron Spicer (young & talented)

[John Doe]

JD, very disappointing effort from "our' team on sat. playing for a spot in the 4 and that sort of effort was put up by the players. imho, only one player put up his hand to have a real go for 4 qtrs [#18 ]. one or two others did a little bit each qrt but all others did not seem to want it enough. SJ and supporters must be let down by lack of spirit shown. hope this was just a bad day and 'we' can get back on track next week and still have a crack at the 4

Old Moz it maybe very hard for Ango to make the 4 now. When you look at their draw, Will, Tan, Freel, Bye & Sth, you would consider this a very tough run home, especially with Tanunda and the Bye. 3 games are winnable and would put pressure on south & willaston but it is looking tough. It doesn't really matter anyway, it looks as though the top 2 sides are streaks ahead of all below them and 3rd and 4th will just be making up the numbers and just be delaying their mad monday's by a week or two.

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Skip, how's Kapunda's run home look?, can they have an impact?

[Hafey]

ie; Ross Christie (great defender), Brad James (great value foe the netballers), Daniel Thomas (should be working for NASA) and Aaron Spicer (young & talented)

Thanks for the innovative review and insight into the kennel of the mighty barossa districts .

Regards in football
Hafey

[skipper]

Thanks for the clarification JD, James07 I was referring to the past 2 seasons not this season, this is where Freeling and Barossa went tit for tat and Barossa won. It certainly raised the bar for this league and a lot of people out there would say it has made it hard for clubs to survive financially. Barossa has had a lot of past players return which is great as has Tanunda this season, but you cannot tell me they have come back for nothing? Having said all this james07I reakon Barossa and Tanunda are fielding almost league sides this season and I will be there to watch them when they clash in a few weeks, should be a cracker with the 2 best country sides in the state going for it.

As for Kapunda's chances JD, like Ango it looks tough they have sth, bar, nuri, GC & the bye so they really have to win 3 and take the loss from Barossa and hope the bye in the last round works for them. Willaston also have a tough run, Ango, sth, bar, nuri and GC. The advantage Willaston have is they have no bye. Have a good look at the ladder and you will see Kapunda are a game clear with better %. South and Ango are lurking but also have tough runs. At this stage Kapunda are playing well with good % and should slip in.

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[sunbowler]

JD its a tough one, most of the people on that committee are bloody good people and should be running a fairly tight ship, so I'm not too sure what is going on and obviously they have to accept the blame as well. One of Freelings problems is that they are trying to win a flag every year. We all know this just isn't going to happen, it works in cycles. Freelings U17 have started to win so perhaps Freeling accept that their time might be in 3 to 5 years and start building to that.

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Skipper when it comes to 'buying' premierships Freeling have been one of the best in the state. At the same time other teams would throw their money around year after year with minimal success eg Kapunda and Tanunda. Even back when the Sunbowler was a lad, the Redlegs would hover around the bottom saving their dollars and then emerge with team of super stars that would fade after success as quickly as it rose. This may never happen again as the salary cap taught clubs how to budget for paid players and the Barossa's, Tanunda's and Kapunda's of this world are starting to demonstrate this new art. Keeping every handy junior at your club will now be the aim of many. My opinion has always been that all players should be paid and if you do that on top of a strong competition other good players will be attracted to it. The SANFL are already nervous about money in the country, but then while their salary cap is so ridiculously low it will be the case.
PS- Strong word for finals venues is - South Gawler, Kapunda, Freeling and Willaston(GF).

[John Doe]

Skipper when it comes to 'buying' premierships Freeling have been one of the best in the state. At the same time other teams would throw their money around year after year with minimal success eg Kapunda and Tanunda. Even back when the Sunbowler was a lad, the Redlegs would hover around the bottom saving their dollars and then emerge with team of super stars that would fade after success as quickly as it rose. This may never happen again as the salary cap taught clubs how to budget for paid players and the Barossa's, Tanunda's and Kapunda's of this world are starting to demonstrate this new art. Keeping every handy junior at your club will now be the aim of many. My opinion has always been that all players should be paid and if you do that on top of a strong competition other good players will be attracted to it. The SANFL are already nervous about money in the country, but then while their salary cap is so ridiculously low it will be the case.
PS- Strong word for finals venues is - South Gawler, Kapunda, Freeling and Willaston(GF).[/quote]

Sunbowler, please tell me South are hosting their final at another ground, I hate going there and so does everyone else I know. I pity the teams that get put in the visitors rooms as they are worse thqan second rate and easily the worst in the league

[The Duke]

Skipper when it comes to 'buying' premierships Freeling have been one of the best in the state. At the same time other teams would throw their money around year after year with minimal success eg Kapunda and Tanunda. Even back when the Sunbowler was a lad, the Redlegs would hover around the bottom saving their dollars and then emerge with team of super stars that would fade after success as quickly as it rose. This may never happen again as the salary cap taught clubs how to budget for paid players and the Barossa's, Tanunda's and Kapunda's of this world are starting to demonstrate this new art. Keeping every handy junior at your club will now be the aim of many. My opinion has always been that all players should be paid and if you do that on top of a strong competition other good players will be attracted to it. The SANFL are already nervous about money in the country, but then while their salary cap is so ridiculously low it will be the case.
PS- Strong word for finals venues is - South Gawler, Kapunda, Freeling and Willaston(GF).

Sunbowler, please tell me South are hosting their final at another ground, I hate going there and so does everyone else I know. I pity the teams that get put in the visitors rooms as they are worse thqan second rate and easily the worst in the league[/quote]

Sunbowler - firstly, I hope you were drunk when you wrote this, as I made my feelings known in previos blogs about having finals at grounds with average facilities. In particular South is a disgraceful facility and should be blackbanned from hosting any such event. Their facilities wont even allow a home and away game be sufficiently hosted, made obvious with my one and only visit there this year on a wet day (dog box changerooms, muddy car parking, no rain shelter, list goes on). Secondly, Willaston is obviously where Nobby lives as it must be walking distance from Nobby's house.

[Texas Rattlesnake]

Skipper when it comes to 'buying' premierships Freeling have been one of the best in the state. At the same time other teams would throw their money around year after year with minimal success eg Kapunda and Tanunda. Even back when the Sunbowler was a lad, the Redlegs would hover around the bottom saving their dollars and then emerge with team of super stars that would fade after success as quickly as it rose. This may never happen again as the salary cap taught clubs how to budget for paid players and the Barossa's, Tanunda's and Kapunda's of this world are starting to demonstrate this new art. Keeping every handy junior at your club will now be the aim of many. My opinion has always been that all players should be paid and if you do that on top of a strong competition other good players will be attracted to it. The SANFL are already nervous about money in the country, but then while their salary cap is so ridiculously low it will be the case.
PS- Strong word for finals venues is - South Gawler, Kapunda, Freeling and Willaston(GF).

Sunbowler, please tell me South are hosting their final at another ground, I hate going there and so does everyone else I know. I pity the teams that get put in the visitors rooms as they are worse thqan second rate and easily the worst in the league

Sunbowler - firstly, I hope you were drunk when you wrote this, as I made my feelings known in previos blogs about having finals at grounds with average facilities. In particular South is a disgraceful facility and should be blackbanned from hosting any such event. Their facilities wont even allow a home and away game be sufficiently hosted, made obvious with my one and only visit there this year on a wet day (dog box changerooms, muddy car parking, no rain shelter, list goes on). Secondly, Willaston is obviously where Nobby lives as it must be walking distance from Nobby's house.[/quote]

The Duke, in response to your slur upon the facilities at Eldred Riggs Reserve - i think you are being a tad harsh...

Yes i do agree that their 'away' change rooms arent probably up to standard. As for muddy car parking - on a wet day i would assume a few other grounds would have this problem as they have dirt roads...willaston, centrals, parts of williamstown, kapunda, freeling... and as for no shelter?? i dont know where you pulled this from?? the whole section out the front of the clubrooms is undercover...

[old moz]

praise for the umpires. on Sat. at Ang. i arrived just before 1/2 time and two young lads were doing the boundary. they then carried on to do the main game [1/4 of the oval each ] to me this was a great effort by these young men. also to the players' credit they didn't whinge when some of the throw-ins were not quite 'up to scratch' but just accepted what was put to them. if this typical of the effort of the boundary umps in the BGFL then well done to all involved and well done to the players for their respect for the good job these lads do. that said , what was the deal with the field ump. wearing a hat? [i know for sure it wasn't sunny on sat ].

[The Duke]

Skipper when it comes to 'buying' premierships Freeling have been one of the best in the state. At the same time other teams would throw their money around year after year with minimal success eg Kapunda and Tanunda. Even back when the Sunbowler was a lad, the Redlegs would hover around the bottom saving their dollars and then emerge with team of super stars that would fade after success as quickly as it rose. This may never happen again as the salary cap taught clubs how to budget for paid players and the Barossa's, Tanunda's and Kapunda's of this world are starting to demonstrate this new art. Keeping every handy junior at your club will now be the aim of many. My opinion has always been that all players should be paid and if you do that on top of a strong competition other good players will be attracted to it. The SANFL are already nervous about money in the country, but then while their salary cap is so ridiculously low it will be the case.
PS- Strong word for finals venues is - South Gawler, Kapunda, Freeling and Willaston(GF).

Sunbowler, please tell me South are hosting their final at another ground, I hate going there and so does everyone else I know. I pity the teams that get put in the visitors rooms as they are worse thqan second rate and easily the worst in the league

Sunbowler - firstly, I hope you were drunk when you wrote this, as I made my feelings known in previos blogs about having finals at grounds with average facilities. In particular South is a disgraceful facility and should be blackbanned from hosting any such event. Their facilities wont even allow a home and away game be sufficiently hosted, made obvious with my one and only visit there this year on a wet day (dog box changerooms, muddy car parking, no rain shelter, list goes on). Secondly, Willaston is obviously where Nobby lives as it must be walking distance from Nobby's house.

The Duke, in response to your slur upon the facilities at Eldred Riggs Reserve - i think you are being a tad harsh...

Yes i do agree that their 'away' change rooms arent probably up to standard. As for muddy car parking - on a wet day i would assume a few other grounds would have this problem as they have dirt roads...willaston, centrals, parts of williamstown, kapunda, freeling... and as for no shelter?? i dont know where you pulled this from?? the whole section out the front of the clubrooms is undercover...[/quote]

Tex - I do take on board your patriotic argument about the the undercover area, but this area would only suitably cater for @ 200 people to view the game from with binoculars. Remembering that this area is located some 150-200 meters away from the northern goals. Your case would be strengthened if the shelter was located on the wing. My argument about finals venues is that the decision makers should reward the association by selecting the grounds with the best facilities for the betterment of the game, rather than filling the pockets of those clubs to go and buy premierships.
Solution GF only - There is only 2 gounds that have capacity to host Grand Final footy (Tanunda & Angaston). Maybe these grounds could host the finals/GF with a certain % of the game revenue going to the club that host the day. The remainder of the revenue divided into the 9 BL&G clubs to invest in upgrading their infrastructure. Am I talking to much sence or do you think their would be to many egos in the way

[The Duke]

praise for the umpires. on Sat. at Ang. i arrived just before 1/2 time and two young lads were doing the boundary. they then carried on to do the main game [1/4 of the oval each ] to me this was a great effort by these young men. also to the players' credit they didn't whinge when some of the throw-ins were not quite 'up to scratch' but just accepted what was put to them. if this typical of the effort of the boundary umps in the BGFL then well done to all involved and well done to the players for their respect for the good job these lads do. that said , what was the deal with the field ump. wearing a hat? [i know for sure it wasn't sunny on sat ].

Good on ya for some positive feedback, I think that this is not the ideal scenario with 10 year old lads throwing the bag of air 3-4 meters to 7 ft ruckman, but good on the lads for having a crack. Obviously great footy etiquette by the Kap & Ang players and supporters for conducting themselves in an appreciative manner. Moz - Maybe the central umpire was trying to keep his wig on, very astute of you.

[John Doe]

Skipper when it comes to 'buying' premierships Freeling have been one of the best in the state. At the same time other teams would throw their money around year after year with minimal success eg Kapunda and Tanunda. Even back when the Sunbowler was a lad, the Redlegs would hover around the bottom saving their dollars and then emerge with team of super stars that would fade after success as


Sunbowler, please tell me South are hosting their final at another ground, I hate going there and so does everyone else I know. I pity the teams that get put in the visitors rooms as they are worse thqan second rate and easily the worst in the league

Sunbowler - firstly, I hope you were drunk when you wrote this, as I made my feelings known in previos blogs about having finals at grounds with average facilities. In particular South is a disgraceful facility and should be blackbanned from hosting any such event. Their facilities wont even allow a home and away game be sufficiently hosted, made obvious with my one and only visit there this year on a wet day (dog box changerooms, muddy car parking, no rain shelter, list goes on). Secondly, Willaston is obviously where Nobby lives as it must be walking distance from Nobby's house.

The Duke, in response to your slur upon the facilities at Eldred Riggs Reserve - i think you are being a tad harsh...

Yes i do agree that their 'away' change rooms arent probably up to standard. As for muddy car parking - on a wet day i would assume a few other grounds would have this problem as they have dirt roads...willaston, centrals, parts of williamstown, kapunda, freeling... and as for no shelter?? i dont know where you pulled this from?? the whole section out the front of the clubrooms is undercover...

Tex - I do take on board your patriotic argument about the the undercover area, but this area would only suitably cater for @ 200 people to view the game from with binoculars. Remembering that this area is located some 150-200 meters away from the northern goals. Your case would be strengthened if the shelter was located on the wing. My argument about finals venues is that the decision makers should reward the association by selecting the grounds with the best facilities for the betterment of the game, rather than filling the pockets of those clubs to go and buy premierships.
Solution GF only - There is only 2 gounds that have capacity to host Grand Final footy (Tanunda & Angaston). Maybe these grounds could host the finals/GF with a certain % of the game revenue going to the club that host the day. The remainder of the revenue divided into the 9 BL&G clubs to invest in upgrading their infrastructure. Am I talking to much sence or do you think their would be to many egos in the way

Duke you do speak some sense (even if you cant spell it!). The shelter at South is fine for those who want to see goals kicked into the wind at the southern end but can only fit a small amount of people at the front who can see, the rest is taken up by the BBQ stall at the backand canteen on the end, if it rains I don't think I'll even bother going!!. Tex the other grounds you mentioned don't help your case as they aren't up to scratch in a majority of areas either and your lame response that the away rooms "probably" aren't up to standard is the view of someone who obviously hasn't ever had to use them, my built in robe is bigger & more suited to a whole footy team preparing for a game.

[Texas Rattlesnake]

This weeks games...

Kapunda V South Gawler
Willaston V Angaston
Tanunda V Freeling
Centrals V Barossa

My tips would have to be South in a close one, Willaston to boost their september prospects, Tanunda to smash Freeling and Barossa to beat Centrals by 5-6 goals...

[holden06]

Kapunda V South Gawler
Willaston V Angaston
Tanunda V Freeling
Centrals V Barossa

If you want to see bag of goals go to the Tanunda game. (1 side only though)
Barossa to win. Only because the way they finished off Nuir and the last time they met Centrals.

As for the South's ground. The away rooms are so small the team can't get in a circle to sing the club song. If you are on a diet the best place to go is South's canteen. 2kilo's lost before you served or carried off by people passing bye it is so close to the fence. You can not have a final game there.

Kap,tan,Nuri,Will & Ango are good places for finals.

[skipper]

Sunbowler I think I have been trying to say that Freeling have been the masters of attempting to buy flags, they just don't seem to know that footy works in cycles. I find it interesting that you think Kapunda and Tanunda have been also trying to buy flags for a while. If this is the case then all sides in the comp are trying to buy flags, Kapunda and Tanunda are no worse than any other club, in fact you could then argue that your Panthers bought the 03 flag. Kapunda won their 2 flags with limited imports based around some very good local talent.

The winners are (4 out 4 last week)

Kapunda v South
Willaston v Ango
Tanunda v Freeling
Barossa v Centrals

2 very good games there while the two top sides will win easily. Why would anyone bother to go to the Tan v Freel game, Freelings loss will resemble that of a sub prime American bank. Freelings defenders will probably be begging Leal tonight to have week forward.

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[skipper]

As for the finals, there is no consistancy with this league so who knows where they will be held. Willaston would have to be a shoe in for the GF, as long as they remember to stock that canteen of theirs up a little better than they normally do. Tanunda will probably get the elim final, word is the blockies are not too impressed about only hosting 2 or 3 finals in the past 10 years. As for the rest its anyones guess, the league will probably look at which club needs to be propped up the most.

The duke puts up the idea that Tan & Ango should share the GF. They do this in the KNTFL, Naracoorte and Bordertown share it and the other finals are shared between the other clubs. I just can't it happening here.

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