Barossa / Light League

[Texas Rattlesnake]

Lets have some early tips for coach of the year. For mine Mark Brant is the standout, he's done a great job with his young Tigers, gotta give Rian Nelson an honourable mention just to give hafey the s#*ts

Steve Lubke couldnt quite sneak a mention in your post John Doe???

[holden06]

Lets have some early tips for coach of the year. For mine Mark Brant is the standout, he's done a great job with his young Tigers, gotta give Rian Nelson an honourable mention just to give hafey the s#*ts

My money would be on Steve Lubke. I think Rian Nelson would have to be up there, Barossa lost a lot of players and the local boy have stepped up. Mark Brant is also up there.

[John Doe]

Lets have some early tips for coach of the year. For mine Mark Brant is the standout, he's done a great job with his young Tigers, gotta give Rian Nelson an honourable mention just to give hafey the s#*ts

Steve Lubke couldnt quite sneak a mention in your post John Doe???

Steve is doing a good job under some pretty weighty expectations in the land of the cubic craniums but he has the cattle to do exactly what they are doing now and some could suggest it's nearly an armchair ride, I gree with holden's views on Nelson, he's been under a ton of pressure to deliver with a vastly changed list and managed to keep the dogs in contention but Brant is coaching a team that won 4 games last year and looking like a title contender at the mo

[Texas Rattlesnake]

also, can someone please tell me how Aaron Bevis does not even get invited to 'try' out for the association side?? He is argubaly in the best 3 players in the competition!!!

[John Doe]

It's a mystery T.R. the only whispers are about off field stuff but that shouldn't factor in to it if they can keep picking Shaun Baker after his effort four years ago. Bevo is clearly the type of player who should be playing rep footy and would be perfect coming off the half back flank!

[Texas Rattlesnake]

It's a mystery T.R. the only whispers are about off field stuff but that shouldn't factor in to it if they can keep picking Shaun Baker after his effort four years ago. Bevo is clearly the type of player who should be playing rep footy and would be perfect coming off the half back flank!

what off field stuff is this John Doe??

[John Doe]

I don't know T.R. that's just what I've heard, it may just be a personality clash with the selectors

[skipper]

John Doe something we agree on, Mark Brant has done an amazing job with the Gawler Tigers. Ryan Nelson after some early hiccups is also looking the goods but he still has a great side to play with. Lubke is the same, I put Lubke at a tied 2nd with Nelson and Brant on top due to his effert to get them really competitive. Another good coach is Damien Prouse but he really doesn't have the latitude to move this year. GC & the blockies have showed us that all you need to do is recruit some very good key players and let them bring the locals into the game, something that needs to be explained to Freeling. Nuri's big ruckman is now doing something similar, notice he has been basically BOG everyweek while they have been winning, they just need a few more key players. John Doe you will remember your 03 flag, Ango basically did the same with a few very crucial players. Blockie keep it up you do have something to be noisy about.

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[John Doe]

John Doe something we agree on, Mark Brant has done an amazing job with the Gawler Tigers. Ryan Nelson after some early hiccups is also looking the goods but he still has a great side to play with. Lubke is the same, I put Lubke at a tied 2nd with Nelson and Brant on top due to his effert to get them really competitive. Another good coach is Damien Prouse but he really doesn't have the latitude to move this year. GC & the blockies have showed us that all you need to do is recruit some very good key players and let them bring the locals into the game, something that needs to be explained to Freeling. Nuri's big ruckman is now doing something similar, notice he has been basically BOG everyweek while they have been winning, they just need a few more key players. John Doe you will remember your 03 flag, Ango basically did the same with a few very crucial players. Blockie keep it up you do have something to be noisy about.

Skip

Skip, I agree with you wholeheartedly, we do need to keep some C.O.Y. space for Scott Lee, if the young Tigers keep playing as they are now we could be giving him the nod soon. You are right on the money with Ango's 03 flag, three magnificent recruits everyone talks about but slipping under the radar was Brandon Kurtz who played full back for much of the year and was a little more rotund than he is now, has been in great shape since then(He still looks like a 22 year old!!!)

[skipper]

Once we have worked out who the best coach is perhaps we can start putting odds on the best player. At this stage I have got Ben Newberry (Tan), Brad Valentine (Kap), Brad Taylor (GC) and look out for the late charge from the Nuri ruckman M Cragg-Sappsford. We know that there are plenty more out there so gives us your opinions, still would like to know how GC new recruit went on the weekend. John Doe you mentioned Kurtz but what about Spanagel, he was worth 2 recruits. What was the outcome of the Willaston spat at Kapunda all seems to be fairly silent.

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[Slipper]

Once we have worked out who the best coach is perhaps we can start putting odds on the best player. At this stage I have got Ben Newberry (Tan), Brad Valentine (Kap), Brad Taylor (GC) and look out for the late charge from the Nuri ruckman M Cragg-Sappsford. We know that there are plenty more out there so gives us your opinions, still would like to know how GC new recruit went on the weekend. John Doe you mentioned Kurtz but what about Spanagel, he was worth 2 recruits. What was the outcome of the Willaston spat at Kapunda all seems to be fairly silent.

Skip

My money is on big Craggy this year. He has been fantastic each week. I definitely think he is the key to Nuri's performance. I spoke to one the GC players on Saturday night about the new recruit. He said he went well, he's a young player who seems very classy. I don't know what position he was playing. I was too blind to make sense of the conversation at this time of night. It will be business as usual for the Willaston lads. Im sure nothing will come of the situation

[John Doe]

Once we have worked out who the best coach is perhaps we can start putting odds on the best player. At this stage I have got Ben Newberry (Tan), Brad Valentine (Kap), Brad Taylor (GC) and look out for the late charge from the Nuri ruckman M Cragg-Sappsford. We know that there are plenty more out there so gives us your opinions, still would like to know how GC new recruit went on the weekend. John Doe you mentioned Kurtz but what about Spanagel, he was worth 2 recruits. What was the outcome of the Willaston spat at Kapunda all seems to be fairly silent.

Skip

Your right skip, Spanagel was worth two recruits, as were David Green and Brenton Bascombe. as for the best player at the moment it's hard to go past Brad Taylor (GC) but as far as umpy votes go, Billy nicholls & cragg-Sapsford of Nuri will get a few but not much in the early rounds. Tom Schiller (Tan) should get attention but has too much competition in his team ditto for Newberry. Mick McCarthy would have been polling well before his knee exploded as would the other Brad Taylor while Valentine took a while to find his feet in this comp so that could rule him out. Shaun Baker hasn't done anything special this year, we might see a roughie get up, Bayliss (South), Matt Stelzer (Barossa) has got to be in with a real chance though

[John Doe]

Once we have worked out who the best coach is perhaps we can start putting odds on the best player. At this stage I have got Ben Newberry (Tan), Brad Valentine (Kap), Brad Taylor (GC) and look out for the late charge from the Nuri ruckman M Cragg-Sappsford. We know that there are plenty more out there so gives us your opinions, still would like to know how GC new recruit went on the weekend. John Doe you mentioned Kurtz but what about Spanagel, he was worth 2 recruits. What was the outcome of the Willaston spat at Kapunda all seems to be fairly silent.

Skip

The issues at Willaston are still there, bubbling away under the surface, just wait till you see a little pressure applied & they will explode like a volcano, they definitely miss the leadership & maturity of guys like Brandon Nottle

[sunbowler]

I take basic stats on every game I watch and mostly these games involve Angaston. There is nothing in the free kicks, send offs or fifty metre penalties to suggest that Angaston are 'dirtier' than any other team. I'm sure the umpires would be onto any team or players that regularly went the knuckle. However one thing that hasn't changed in footy since I've been watching is the supporters who think anything done by one of their players is OK and vice versa if it is an opposition player. There are some players ( and I could name at least one from every club) who 'travel closer to the wind' than others but even then some of the on field violence I've seen in other competitions makes most them look like creampuffs. As for coaches instructing players to go after opposition players we are looking at the wrong grades. Some info I have received about some coaches at the real junior end of the competition is quite disturbing and I understand it may feature at the next senior delegates meeting. As for coach of the year, it has got to be one of the most ludicrous awards. How can you award it considering all the different aspects e.g. last season's best coaching effort was a losing one in the GF!!!

[blockie]

You're on the money Sunbowler in more ways than one! I wouldn't call the "closer to the wind" players creampuffs, I suggest that over a number of years players in this association know that if you do get caught you will be off the field. And this has made the BLG a great place to watch footy. Some still try to "get away" with a few things but in general it is pretty good. There just seems to be the occasional brain fade that kicks in every now and then and fires everyone up The umps just need to continue their tough calls and get players off even if only for the ten minutes. On juniors, worries me, lots and the association needs to get tougher, this will upset a few but their are way too many wrong things going on down there. Speaking of the "tough" old school, do you think that has soething to do with the junior issues at the moment as it is the past players of that era that are now coaching the junior ranks and where we seem to be having issues?? Coach of the year, well the best team of the year wins the premiership and they are coached by someone...pretty simple if we do have to have the award!
Speaking of interesting awards do ya know how the golden whistle is selected? Maybe the coaches need to vote on each umpire each week? going now bye!! LOL

[skipper]

Sunblower that is a concern if there are wrong examples being set at a junior level. I will get off the Ango issue now, it looks as though this forum has certainly got a discussion going and I would think it has got back to the Ango executive and if they think that there is a problem I have no doubt they will act. Blockie the best coach shouldn't be judged on the final result, O'Connor won two flags with a virtual league side that only money could buy, Frosty the Snowman could have coached them to at least one premiership. In my opinion a good coach is one who is a club coach and follows the juniors up and builds a base for the future. Thats why I like the way Brant is going about the job and you could also say this about Lubke who picked up the Blockies when they where down and out three years ago and has turned them around.

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[skipper]

John Doe forgot about David Green, he was probably one of the best players in this comp not to win a Schluter medal, injuries hampered him a bit. I have a feeling he is now playing down in the South East. We will see about the Willaston job this weekend won't we, this one against the blockies could go either way. If there are some problems not the best opposition for them to come up against it could bring them out.

Skip

[blockie]

I hear what you are saying Skip re the coach of the year, but how (and who) do you judge a coach that has done the junior rebuild thing V a new A grade coach that may just be the spark that the side needed to take the next step? Gawler Central had a talented list prior to this season, Brant has definatley changed their style of play and I think you will see that they will keep improving until their last game, but I don't really think he has reinvented the wheel at the dog track. But he has created a spark and some interest in footy again. Are you suggesting we need a selection panel to select the coach of the year? Do we need a coach of the year award?

[skipper]

Blockie if you read back you will actually see that it was not me that started this discussion I have just joined in giving my opinion who are the top coaches, which is a very relevent issue. I would think the gig as the coach of the association side would be the just prize. I think it is vital in a country league that the A grade coach is the club coach and is there to develop the club and not just the A grade side. I think you will agree with this after the balls up you guys had with Peter Young who was only interested in the A grade and anyone who couldn't make it was forgotton about.

Skip

[John Doe]

I hear what you are saying Skip re the coach of the year, but how (and who) do you judge a coach that has done the junior rebuild thing V a new A grade coach that may just be the spark that the side needed to take the next step? Gawler Central had a talented list prior to this season, Brant has definatley changed their style of play and I think you will see that they will keep improving until their last game, but I don't really think he has reinvented the wheel at the dog track. But he has created a spark and some interest in footy again. Are you suggesting we need a selection panel to select the coach of the year? Do we need a coach of the year award?

we have awards for just about everything else blockie (sven), I cant see the harm in recognising the coaches. The best improvement we could make is to take the politics out of it (which is why O'Connor never won it, he's hated by the people who pick it)