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The person or the party?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:01 pm
by westozfalcon
In a federal election do you pay more attention to the personality and character of the prospective leader or the policies of their party?

Re: The person or the party?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:13 pm
by cripple
definitely the person and in my voting history it has been about the personality i dislike more then the personality that i like when in the ballot box.

Re: The person or the party?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 8:34 pm
by once_were_warriors
Every time previously has been on the policies, this time it will be more based upon the leader

Re: The person or the party?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 8:45 pm
by Ian
Unless you live in a party leaders electorate you can't vote for them personally.
You do vote for a person though, the candidate for your electorate. (The party leaders may sway who you do vote for though)

Re: The person or the party?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 9:10 pm
by wycbloods
once_were_warriors wrote:Every time previously has been on the policies, this time it will be more based upon the leader


Why is it you would vote for a leader in this election if you have voted on policies in every other instance?

Genuine Question.

Re: The person or the party?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 9:12 pm
by wycbloods
Always policies for me.

I vote for the party that best represents my values, i would like different people to be leader other than the one who is the leader from time to time but i would never change my vote based on a leader.

Re: The person or the party?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 9:15 pm
by am Bays
wycbloods wrote:Always policies for me.

I vote for the party that best represents my values, i would like different people to be leader other than the one who is the leader from time to time but i would never change my vote based on a leader.


Ditto

Policies and values I identify with for me. And it is the sum of the policies - not every policy/platform of the party I vote for I agree with. Also their are policies and platforms of the other party I like.

Re: The person or the party?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 9:39 pm
by once_were_warriors
wycbloods wrote:
once_were_warriors wrote:Every time previously has been on the policies, this time it will be more based upon the leader


Why is it you would vote for a leader in this election if you have voted on policies in every other instance?

Genuine Question.



Simply because I refuse to have one of them as the Prime Minister of this country, which I can't say about any other previous party leader since I started voting.

Re: The person or the party?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 10:05 pm
by mighty_tiger_79
vote for policies

and given libs will bring back work choices ill be voting labor

Re: The person or the party?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 10:16 pm
by Q.
Do the policies dictate who the leader of a party will be, or, does the leader dictate what the policies will be?

The two are inextricably linked.

The thought of voting for either of the major parties brings bile to the back of my throat.

Re: The person or the party?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 10:19 pm
by am Bays
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:vote for policies

and given libs will bring back work choices ill be voting labor


No they wont be, labor spin doctors will dress it up as they are but they won't be.

Re: The person or the party?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 10:26 pm
by GWW
For me its a combination of past performance, policies and personality.

Re: The person or the party?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:03 pm
by wycbloods
am Bays wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:vote for policies

and given libs will bring back work choices ill be voting labor


No they wont be, labor spin doctors will dress it up as they are but they won't be.


Rubbish AM Bays. Abbott has well and truly put workchoices back on the table when he said about employers should be able to trade off o/t rates shift penalties etc.

Re: The person or the party?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:05 pm
by wycbloods
once_were_warriors wrote:
wycbloods wrote:
once_were_warriors wrote:Every time previously has been on the policies, this time it will be more based upon the leader


Why is it you would vote for a leader in this election if you have voted on policies in every other instance?

Genuine Question.



Simply because I refuse to have one of them as the Prime Minister of this country, which I can't say about any other previous party leader since I started voting.


Fair enough.

Re: The person or the party?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:01 pm
by Magpiespower
Have always voted Labor.

Not this time.

And I can't wait for the NSW election in March 2011 to vote out those corrupt and incompetent clowns in power.

Voting Liberal to make absolutely 100% sure they don't get my vote.

They will be obliterated!

:D

Re: The person or the party?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 5:40 pm
by mighty_tiger_79
wycbloods wrote:
am Bays wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:vote for policies

and given libs will bring back work choices ill be voting labor


No they wont be, labor spin doctors will dress it up as they are but they won't be.


Rubbish AM Bays. Abbott has well and truly put workchoices back on the table when he said about employers should be able to trade off o/t rates shift penalties etc.



EXACTLY RIGHT

ABBOTT has said there shouldnt be weekend penalty rates as well

WORKCHOICES will be back if Libs win again, Abbott said it himself

Re: The person or the party?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:23 pm
by Leaping Lindner
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:
wycbloods wrote:
am Bays wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:vote for policies

and given libs will bring back work choices ill be voting labor


No they wont be, labor spin doctors will dress it up as they are but they won't be.


Rubbish AM Bays. Abbott has well and truly put workchoices back on the table when he said about employers should be able to trade off o/t rates shift penalties etc.



EXACTLY RIGHT

ABBOTT has said there shouldnt be weekend penalty rates as well

WORKCHOICES will be back if Libs win again, Abbott said it himself


Nah, it could "never ever" happen. :roll:

Re: The person or the party?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:31 pm
by Psyber
I voted "The Party" because it is broadly true.
However, I was disenchanted with John Howard and may have voted Labor the election prior to 2007 had they not handed the leadership to Mark Latham - I had been thinking about it, but he scared me off.
Gough Whitlam swayed me to vote Labor on two occasions, prior to the 1975 election when I went the other way.
Prior to that I'd tended to select an Independent for first spot if there was one I liked, and give the Liberals 2nd place.

Re: The person or the party?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:49 pm
by Media Park
Has been the PARTY in the few elections I've been able to vote in.

Problem is, and I do take a genuine interest in Politics, I seem to back the opposition at federal level... no matter who the opposition is...

Re: The person or the party?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 2:36 pm
by Booney
I'll readily admit I am not as fueled by political debates as many in here, but......I do see myself as "the average voter".

I have never met, encountered, spoken to or required the "services" of my local MP. Therefore to suggest I am voting for them is fanciful.

My vote is cast based upon :

- Whom I wish to see lead the country based upon policy and from there the best way to ensure that party is elected at Federal level is to vote for the local representative in my electorate.

Having said all of that, more and more, despite what is in actual fact reality it is the person running for PM and not the party that most Australians vote for.

Anyone remember Mark Latham? How would Labour ever had won with him in charge and what would have been if Rudd was in charge back then. Would Howard had got his third term?

I also feel voting on policies is fraught with danger. If you are, that means you are trusting them. ;)