crazy fruit loops

[Gozu]

Unfortunately I missed the Coalition's meltdown on 4 Corners the other night but have come across Nick Minchin's deranged conspiracy theory. The kind of far-right lunacy you'd expect to hear on Fox News or something. Anyway one of the sane Liberal Party politicians (oxymoron, surely?) rightly ripped into him and Pyne is denying it was him. Cory Bernardi perhaps? Like many have said the Libs have just taken care of Labor's election campaign material for them. Pure madness.

A newspaper report on Wednesday quoted an unnamed Liberal frontbencher saying Senator Minchin came across as a "complete fruit loop" for suggesting climate change was a left-wing conspiracy.

"Border control is going along a treat and they come out behaving like total f...wits. They don't know how crazy they look, because crazy people never do," The Australian quoted the Liberal as saying.

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/stor ... 01,00.html

[redden whites]

Let's not forget Mt Howards line in Sept 07 " In a few years time we will be looking back thinking why did we get all worked up over this climate change theory".Why would the lambs he fathered who remain in the field who still bleet his name be any different.

[Psyber]

There is no dispute that the climate is changing...
Whether is is part of the long-term cycle of solar activity, or an anthropogenic new event is still debatable and unresolved.
Current views are all theory - nothing is proved - and it may turn out in time that the catastrophic anthropogenic crisis theory, that is currently fashionable was hysteria.

However, I am not saying we should ignore it..
With so many of us on the planet and the population still increasing, we should be reducing our pollution output before we do have such a crisis - climatological and biological.
Too many biological poisons are also reaching the environment. CO2, and other greenhouse gases, are only one issue we have focussed on while ignoring others.
My view is that we need to do all we can to reduce pollution, not introduce a form of trading pollution, which is what many world governments are focussed on.
[India is doing something direct, however, by building a Thorium Fission reactor to reduce its dependence on more polluting options.]

[dedja]

My view is that we need to do all we can to reduce pollution, not introduce a form of trading pollution, which is what many world governments are focussed on.

I'd agree with that point ... we are concentrating on only one aspect.

Trading or credit scheme will not work. I laugh when a company says it is now carbon neutral by making a payment for carbon offsets.

It's a bit like the water licencing in the Murray, if we buy a certain number of licences for x million, then more water will flow. Except it's based on a false premise as the river is overallocated.